Fallout 4: The Frustrating Wait Continues

Step up your game Bethesda.

Posted By | On 07th, Dec. 2014 Under News | Follow This Author @@Martintoney2012


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The Game Awards was one hell of an improvement over the utter travesty that was VGX 2013, but at times it was still an awkward shambling affair that felt somewhat lacklustre and without purpose. One of the things that people were looking forward to was a possible Fallout 4 announcement but Bethesda shot down any chances of that happening at the event.

The want for Fallout 4 is strong yet Bethesda won’t make any comment on its existence. You can’t simply ape another approach to your game and expect similar results. Here’s an example. Half Life 3. Does Valve ever actually talk about it? Nope. Do they know we want it? Yes. But Half Life 3 has become so ingrained in gaming culture as a social meme that they could literally release that game in anyway they chose fit and it would be a smash hit. They could put it on Steam without ever doing press for the game and sell it at $60 and still make an insane amount of profit. The same can’t be said for Fallout 4.

Fallout 4 has burned gamers, not because it doesn’t have the same staying power as Half Life  but because they want it so badly, yet Bethesda won’t even hint about it. Gamers wanted a Majora’s Mask remake on 3DS, so the developers teased a little with sly remarks and told them to wait. Halo The Master Chief Collection, people wanted it but were teased and told to wait.

Fallout 4 is desired, and they will give us nothing. I think they need to announce something soon, historically speaking the fans will only wait so long before it becomes bland. Hype will fade and expectations will become lofty with time. If the game  does eventually arrive and doesn’t deliver then I’ll be happy to throw it under the bus.

What do you think?

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  • Alex

    It baffles me that Bethesda Game Studios continues its silence on this. Just to give you an idea of the pattern in which the development studio releases titles: Morrowind 2002, Oblivion 2006, Fallout 3 2008, Skyrim 2011. Average 3 years per title. Meaning we have waited the longest so far in the history of the developer for even an announcement of their next game. There must be something wrong at the studios cause we still haven’t even heard anything yet. I hope to God we won’t have to wait this long for all their titles, otherwise they will become irrelevant in the gaming industry.

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    • Kyle Posey

      Good point. They are really dragging their feet on this. I would be much more forgiving if they would just acknowledge the game. To me it’s a very unkind thing to their fans that they won’t even say the name “Fallout” when referring to announcing or not announcing games. Leading up to the VGAs Pete Hines’s tweet regarding not announcing anything didn’t even mention the title, like there’s some other game from them people are begging for.

    • Aeterna_Umbra

      Saying the title would be announcing the game. I’m sure no intelligent gaming company would announce a game through Twitter.

    • Kyle Posey

      Mentioning the name of the series is announcing the game? They can’t say anything like “We’re not ready to discuss the Fallout series right now”? The language they use acts like they don’t know what game it could possibly be that people want to hear about.

    • Aeterna_Umbra

      Of course it’d announce the game. Because if they say what you said, we’d know that they’re making it, which is an announcement. If they say they’re not making it, then they wouldn’t be making it. Announcing something is saying that it exists and it’s coming. All they need to do is say the word ‘Fallout’, unless it’s in the context of saying they’re not making it, and we know it’s coming. Saying the word ‘Fallout’ is exactly what everyone wants; the announcement. They’re not gonna do that on Twitter. And it’d be stupid to say ‘We’re not announcing Fallout 4 yet’, because not only is that announcing it, but it’s wasting the opportunity of VGX.

      What did you think an announcement was?

    • Kyle Posey

      I would say an announcement would have a general release date or image attached. Just saying that they’re not talking about the series right now doesn’t really add any information other than them acknowledging that they know which game people want from them. The typical PR bullshit they’ve been pulling is very indicative of a company who doesn’t have anything to offer, so instead they’ll just never address it and hope people move on.

    • Aeterna_Umbra

      The reason Fallout 4 and Half Life 3 are so hyped up are because we don’t know if they exist. If the company were to merely state the name of the next game, we’re either assured that they’re making it or assured that they’re not. There’s no middle ground, because if they just tell people it’s not happening at the moment, people know it’s happening. The silence builds the hype, not destroys it. Did you not notice the amount of Fallout 4 news spreading before VGX even though Bethesda didn’t say a word? That’s clever marketing, as people want to know it exists and will take anything as news, even when none of it is.

      And even if it were bad marketing, which I believe it isn’t, simply stating the name isn’t Bethesda’s style. Never has been. Todd Howard said himself that they’d rather go “BOOM! Here it is!” and show so much at once. They’ve always done that. And many fans suspect that Fallout 4 won’t even be announced at an event, but will be announced in the same way that the hoax was. Bethesda praised the hoax and, now that they’re huge, can just put ‘Please Stand By’ on their site and get just as much attention as they would at a convention.

    • Alex

      To an extent it may increase hype, but what if we don’t even get an announcement in 2015? If there is no announcement in 2015 I think many will assume the Fallout series is dead. But for sake of argument lets say they release Fallout 4 at the end of 2015, when will Elder Scrolls 6 come out 2019? 8 years after Skyrim? No this pattern is unsustainable for any game series because returning customers are a lot easier to get than new ones, it makes little business sense to release these games so far apart. I am glad they don’t do what Assassins Creed and Call of Duty do but for cripes sake 6 or 7 years between sequels is ridiculous.

    • Aeterna_Umbra

      Morrowind came out six years after Daggerfall and they started working on concepts for it straight after Daggerfall’s release, and Morrowind is commonly considered their best game. Skyrim failed miserably on release with too many game breaking bugs because it wasn’t ready for release. Games such as Fallout and Elder Scrolls are bigger and more complex than almost any other game in the market, so more time is necessary. Honestly, if you’re an actual fan of the series you would be patient. If you give up on the series because you want a rushed, terrible instalment, then good riddance.

    • Alex

      Daggerfall and Morrowind had a few spinoffs released in between their respective releases so it does not take them 6 years to make one of their games. Furthermore the Studios in general releases a game every 3 years. It has been 3 years since Skyrim and not even an announcement for their next title. This is an unreasonable amount of time between titles. I am a fan of the series and bought Skyrim on the first day it came out and loved it. The bugs did not ruin it for me. I just want to know when and what is coming so I know that they still care about the respective franchises.

    • Aeterna_Umbra

      Daggerfall came out in 1996, followed by Morrowind in 2002. Six years between games. And Bethesda could still announce in the next few months with an October release, following previous Fallout games. The wait so far is completely natural and makes perfect sense.

    • Alex

      Bethesda Game Studios was established in 2001 so you are wrong. I was specifically referring to the development studio with its first game being Morrowind, not Bethesda Softworks which made Arena and Daggerfall before its Elder Scrolls division was given to BGS. So 6 years between games for this studio is not normal. The wait is not natural and does not make perfect sense given their patterns for release. Especially since they announce a title around a year before the release date. I don’t know what they are waiting for honestly. They have stated previously that it takes about 3 years to make these types of games. Note Fallout 3 came out only 2 years after Oblivion. Clearly if they wanted to they could have released it by now. Personally I think they are waiting for the new console market to mature a little bit.

    • jack

      I believe that after the millions of complaints about their aged and buggy engine, they are revamping and redesigning it completely. This is their first jump to next gen, and for it to be truly next gen (unlike many games today), it’s going to take a lot of time

    • Eric Hutchison

      Bethesda makes the best games, at least in the RPG genre, without question. I can be patient, but they do need to at least tease us and let us know that Fallout 4 is coming.

    • Gareth Stone

      See… that wouldn’t even be a tease, it’d just be a minimal sign of respect for the fans

    • Eric Hutchison

      I agree with you, of course. 🙂

  • 89mrapp

    You people have no perspective. With Black Isle’s doors closed, the old school were robbed of a true Fallout trilogy. We waited 10 years between F2 and 3, only for a reboot jacked from the previous games.

  • Ocelotty1

    AAAAAARRRGGGGHHH! – just release it already – I will still have to wait another 2 years following release for all the DLC plus the main game to be on sale 😉

  • Gareth Stone

    Oh my god, watching Bethesda’s bumlickers in action is revolting. Stop apologising for them. ‘Ooh, you don’t want them to announce it before it’s ready, that’ll just build up loads of hype!’. What will Bethesda do a year before release? Start a massive hype train… purely for their own benefit…. after four, five, ten years of silence. Face it, they have no respect for their fans, they’re not gamers, they’re just miserable corporate execs now. Everyone talking about ‘Todd’ and ‘Pete’ like they’re buddies… haha… you don’t know these guys, they’re number-and-chart men now, purely figuring out how to maximise profits for their lords.

    • Kyle Posey

      “Face it, they have no respect for their fans”

      See this is kinda what I was talking about in my previous comments. The way they won’t even mention the series, and just do the typical PR run-around makes me feel like they don’t care about their fans anymore. If they don’t plan on making it, tell us. If you plan on making it, tell us. It’s been three years since their last game, and six since their last installment of fallout. It’s time to say something.

    • Gareth Stone

      They don’t care about their fans any more… it ain’t just your feeling, it’s a logical deduction. They care whether it sells but they don’t care at all whether the original fans are still with them. In fact they’d probably be happy to shed them – all we do is ‘pester’ and ‘irritate’ them, eh

    • Alex James Ramos

      They’re last game was october 14th though 😉

    • Aeterna_Umbra

      Yeah, it will build up hype. That’s what all developers want, idiot. It puts attention on the game and increases sales. What, should they NOT want hype?

    • Gareth Stone

      ‘Ooh, you don’t want them to announce it before it’s ready, that’ll just build up loads of hype!’ is what a lot of Bethesda’s defenders say.

    • Alex

      If they really want to increase sales they would simply decrease the wait time between titles.

    • SeventhSteel

      I’m baffled by this attitude. What does anyone need to “apologize” for them about? They don’t announce games until they’re ready. If they played the whole teasing game and kept delaying their games then they would get the whole other set of complaints. The bottom line is that gamers want the game and are going to complain about wanting it until they get it.

      “What will Bethesda do a year before release? Start a massive hype train… purely for their own benefit…. after four, five, ten years of silence.”

      Yeah THAT’S HOW IT WORKS. I don’t understand how this is “bad”. They need to manage hype and create publicity campaigns and make a profit so they can keep releasing games. We all just need to wake up to the realities of business.

    • Gareth Stone

      Na, the main complaint is that they’ve said NOTHING. They’ve never uttered ‘Fallout 4’ or ‘next Fallout game’.

      My comment about hype is in response to those who say that Bethesda are justified in their silence ‘because mentioning the game would build up hype’

  • Gareth Stone
  • asm123

    I would put money on it that Fallout 4 is in the very early stages of development. I get the feeling Bethesda didn’t realize the demand for this game until that hoax website showed up and they are probably playing catch up which is why they’re staying so quiet about it and not trying to build any more hype for the game.

    • Dou Chebag

      i think it prolly went down something like that.

    • SeventhSteel

      No sorry, that’s not how the world works. Companies don’t buy intellectual property with the stated intention of turning it into a franchise, release one well-received game, and then just forget to develop a sequel until some people on Reddit get upset about a hoax.

    • Dou Chebag

      You’re right, Seventh. That is indeed how it should work and entirely logical. But something is irrevocably amiss here. And with the information blackout we must draw our own conclusions, however illogically logical they tend to be.

    • Gareth Stone

      Yep. We don’t know exactly but it seems very likely that Bethesda have screwed up in some way

  • Rubix99

    Bethesda are making the choice of which next gen console to buy very easy.

    Fallout 4 or GTFO.

  • JVincent

    Maybe they’ll announce it when final fantasy 7 is remade with better graphics.
    amirite? hey guys?
    har har har.
    seriously though, isn’t the next one supposed to be in Baltimore?

  • Deepak

    To be fair, Bethesda/Pete Hines did acknowledge that they will be continuing the Fallout franchise. In a quote by Pete Hines “The whole reason we went out and acquired the license and that we now own Fallout is that we clearly intended to make more than one. This is not something we’re going to do once and then go away and never do it again. When that will be or how long that will be God only knows, but we acquired it specifically because we wanted to own it and develop it and work on it like we do with The Elder Scrolls.”

    • Gareth Stone

      Yeah… he said that, what, six years ago?

    • Deepak

      True it was a long time ago, but it was still said after they started acquiring the Fallout franchise. And they only recently finished up the courtroom battle with Interplay in 2012. So in my eyes, they may have only been capable of working on the new installment once it was assured that Interplay couldn’t complete their Fallout Online game. If that is the case, they may only have two years of official research and development done for the game.

    • Shocker

      I hope not. Why would the Fallout Online case interfere though, if it didn’t interfere with Fallout 3 and New Vegas?


 

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