Halo 5 Guardians: Fans Angry After 343 Industries Remove Split Screen

Can fan backlash get 343 to change it’s mind?

Posted By | On 05th, Jul. 2015 Under News


Halo 5 Guardians

While there is a lot of excitement surrounding Halo 5: Guardians, one piece of information that just slipped out might tamp down that excitement just a little bit. When the game was officially revealed a number of questions popped up and to some, the most important question of all is whether or not this title will include split-screen play. That particular feature is one that has been in the series from the beginning and has made playing co-op  that much more fun.

The company had actually made it clear it was going to remove the split screen gameplay for a while now, saying it needed to do so in order to make sure Guardians was able to run at 60fps. After this announcement the fans of the series actually launched a petition asking for 343 to bring back the beloved feature. It appears that the petition wasn’t enough, considering one of those fans tweeted to studio head Josh Holmes asking him for clarification as to whether or not the game might be bringing back the feature and he pretty much shot it down.

Holmes was asked to “clarify” the situation regarding split screen and he tweeted back, “All MP modes use full screen on dedicated servers, incl Coop Campaign, Arena and Warzone.” This of course wasn’t exactly “no there is no split screen” but it was as close as you could possibly get without specifically saying that. The answer, sparked a bit outrage on Twitter, and has even led some fans to announce they won’t buy the game without split screen included, including canceling their preorder and showing their receipt as confirmation. With the release date so close, it seems unlikely 343 would put the feature back in, but perhaps they could change it in a patch after release. Halo 5: Guardians is launching on the Xbox One on October 27.


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  • Psionicinversion

    with split screen you cant go full throttle with the graphics you have to dial it back so theres enough power to do it and you could have full throttle graphics in single mode and then 900p-720p in split screen but it the gfx wouldnt be consistent across the board. Thats why forza 6 wont look as good as it good unless they do add dynamic resloution scaling for the split screen part

    • Mark

      Dude what don’t these people get? Regardless of how much u think 343’s tryna screw u, THEY’RE TELLIN U THA GAME WON’T HOLD UP WELL! Haha. With the original Halos, they were 30fps so Bungie had more wiggle room with things, but @ 60 u need to not go over the 16ms time……they should trade in their X1’s along with that canceled pre-order. Dudes r acting like females out here. U really gonna miss the whole game, because of split screen?! That’s like a PS4 owner passing up UC4 because campaign is 30fps……wow.

    • Psionicinversion

      not my problem

    • Mark

      I know, I had to vent to somebody tho…

  • XbotMK1

    Split screen has allways been a staple of the Halo franchise. Halo 1 and 2 were popular because of splitscreen.

    I find it funny how Xbox fanboys bashed The Uncharted Collection for excluding Uncharted 2 and 3 multiplayer modes but the Xbox fanboys don’t want to bash Halo 5 for lacking a split screen mode.

    Bardock, Terminator, Coip, Starman, Mark, and countless other Xbots. Where are they?

    • Terminator

      You called?

      LOL that’s it? That’s the best you could come up with? Desperation talk and damage control at it finest and it could only be possible thanks to XbotMK1.

      Halo The Master Chief Collection had 4 games each with their campaign and it included the multiplayer mode of each game all for $60, while Uncharted Collection only has 3 games with their campaign striped of its multiplayer mode all for $60. LOL! Now that is funny. Talk about paying more for less and those words came from you. (hypocrite lying desperate drone)

      Why should I bash them for removing split-screen? Its either that or a lower resolution and fps.

      “but the Xbox fanboys don’t want to bash Halo 5 for lacking a split screen mode.”
      yet the title and article say “Fans Angry After 343 Industries Remove Split Screen”
      XbotMK1 go back to your Troll Academy and Try Again. 🙂

    • Jacob Stamm

      I’ve been a longtime Halo fanatic, and I am absolutely bashing 343 for not making splitscreen happen. As you said, it’s been a staple of the franchise. I am beyond discontent that they can’t/won’t do this.

    • Reign SUPREEM

      I see you on every gaming website saying the same ol s***. Your life must suck if you feel the need to spend countless hours online sh****** on Xbox articles. Pathetic….go back to dualshockers we’re you belong.

    • joey

      I’ve been playing halo since og Xbox with the duke controller up till now and its never been a staple for me. I couldn’t stand playing split it was torturous

  • Samuel Shank

    I think it’d a be better solution to make both 343 and the Halo Fandom happy simultaneously by developing some sort of Add-On for the Xbox One called the “Xbox One Octoskreen” to provide legitimate support for Splitscreen while maintaining 60FPS which 343 Wanted and some of the fans wanted so, too. I know Split screen could cause framerate issues for 60FPS, but it’d be a lot more viable to have Hardware accelerated Split screen to fully support 60FPS and make a nice, epic and highly blazing co-op experience in 60 Frames Per Second

  • Andy Maas

    screw split screen

  • People complain about such small things not buying the game cause he has no split screen ? lmao

    • If they’re complaining about it, then to them it’s not a “small thing”.

  • Mark

    Cry me a river while I walk over the bridge. And no excuses for any teens canceling their preorders, I was never like this when I was young. Basically they’re asking 343 to cut the frames in half, and splinter the experience for everyone. I’ll say this, if 343 can, maybe, maybe, maybe work on an offline/local split screen version & turn down the graphics beyond recognition, or cut the frames in half…..pffff this is really sad.

    • Jacob Stamm

      The standard that many reasonable Halo fans have is that visuals would only be compromised during splitscreen. Other developers who are developing cross-platform games are able to achieve this. Why is 343, who is designing solely to one hardware configuration and who essentially has the backing of Microsoft, unable to make this happen? “Because reasons” has essentially been the answer given to the Halo community. I’m sorry that you have to brand those who are discontent to the point of canceling pre-orders as “teens”, and that you didn’t fight for what you cared about when you were young, but don’t criticize others for doing so.

    • Mark

      Nah I will criticize them. Don’t agree with me oh well. So long as I’m not internet stalking their Disqus accounts & attacking them, I’m good with my statement. I wasn’t saying people who cancel their pre-orders are teens, I’m saying they must’ve been teens to behave so emotional as to take a dam picture of their cancelled ticket, and post it to the internet……lol! Sad and pathetic. I’d never “fight for what I care about” if said feature wasn’t in a game. I’d, u know, play the game and find out if it’s any good like the other millions of reasonable gamers.

      So what some other dev added in split screen (which is truly rare to begin with). 343 aimed for 60fps for a smooth experience, and they won’t compromise. I suppose that translates to “it’s a failed game” to those u defend. U don’t like it, cool, but u take and post a screenshot of ur cancelled pre-order, because they won’t chop up the experience for u?! I’ve no sympathy with someone who behaves that way, ESPECIALLY a supposed mature brain. This gen of gamers is a unique & special bunch…

  • Kfal Balli
    • Jacob Stamm

      To answer Leo’s question…

      https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-343-industies-bonnie-ross-kiki-wolfkill-microsoft-studios-add-split-screen-co-op

      …and many, many more fans who doubtless will simply elect to not buy the game rather than hunting down online petitions.

    • Kfal Balli

      This game will be fun and still sell millions. People want everything. Sometimes devs have to make choices for what will be the better experience. I was not thinking about split screen when I was having a great time playing titanfall and I won’t now.

    • Mark

      These guys r crazy and spoiled, to cancel a preorder because it lacks a feature, not broken online mp, but a feature, not Pay 2 Win mp model…..but a feature….wow. It’s one thing to complain, it’s another to cancel a pre-order & post a screenshot of it online. Like u said “Who gives a sh*t” lmao

    • Kfal Balli

      I agree. Let them play Destiny and get ripped off or some other crap and they’ll come running back.

    • Greg Wood

      I have every Halo that was released. I finished 2 for the story mode. I have endless memories of drunk 4 player…yea count me out with no split screen.

    • Corey Blaze Ryan

      So how am I supposed to play this game with my friends or my gf when they come to visit? Is it mandatory to bring an extra xbox, game, and TV if we want to play in the same room together? It certainly wasn’t like that 10 years ago, and it shouldn’t be now. Games should get better and have more features over time, not less. Halo didn’t become popular because of it’s graphics, but because of its gameplay. I really shouldn’t have to explain this.

    • Mark

      Well Gbolt is having issues in the comments section so I can’t properly reply. But there’s no excuses for grown men posting screens of their cancellation lol. Part of being an adult is taking the punch & moving on. Split screen would be nice, but it ain’t there in Gaurdians…u should grab Star Wars or COD then.

    • Corey Blaze Ryan

      Being an adult doesn’t mean taking the punch and moving on. These people (including myself) do not support their decision, and they are making that known with their wallets. Maybe it’s not a big deal to you, and that’s fine, but it is to many people. The adult thing to do would be to at least look at it from our perspective. I’m sure if it was the other way around, and split screen was being put in at the expense of graphic and stability issues, you would be upset in the same way that we are now. My argument is that it is 2015 and there is no reason we can’t have both, or reduced graphics during split screen only.

      Also you tell me to pick up Star Wars or cod instead, but how long will those remain split screen? Halo has been for over 10 years up until now. What’s to stop cod from doing the same if we don’t voice our disagreement? Better yet, why would they care as long as we continue to buy the game? Think about it.

    • Mark

      Where did I disagree about “voicing ur opinion”? It’s one thing to ask Josh Holmes why they made the decision, and ask if they’d consider it. It’s another thing to scream “I’M CANCELLING MY PREORDER!” 100 times to Josh Holmes’ Twit lol. Go look @ his page. If u cancel it, THEN JUST DO IT! If you’ve spoken ur mind, fine, but to take to posting screens of ur cancellation is brattish, PATHETIC, for a supposed fully matured brain. Again, a part of being an adult, is, to take things u cannot change and move on. Of course u speak up, with voice & ur money. But there comes a point when people start getting childish, and whining and crying. Split screen isn’t in Gaurdians, what now? Whine more to Josh, or move on?

      Are u gonna support Halo 5 that has no split screen, so they do the same in Halo 6? Nah that’s irrational right? So when do u move on to other options? Personally I say what I need to about stuff, but then I keep it moving….I thought that was logical.

    • Mark

      Lol!

  • Joshua Hernandez

    I am dissapointed with this decision, sure. I am also understanding of the confusion and anger fans have had for things recently (I.e. Battlferont, Arkham Knight, Destiny) but seriously? This is too much, Split screen is a cool feature, but it is not nearly utilized as much as people assume. Sure, some people play alot of it, but more people play solo campaign/multiplayer, and so this decision (though still kind of lame) makes plenty of sense. I never before really felt the idea of “fan entitlement” because alot of times, fans can really stop bad ideas, but now, I’m beginning to see a pattern that does not bode well for fans, and for the gaming industry as a whole… I for one am buying the game and will enjoy it, if the lack of split screen is really so important to you, fine, don’t buy it, but please, lets try and be a bit more mature about this then raging and throwing in the face of the developers over something that in all honesty, is relatively small. The game is still playable and the Map DLC is free, I feel those would be far more pressing issues if they were different.

  • Alex Whybrow

    Meh. I’m not bothered. If 343 wants a high-quality game, then the split screen kinda has to go. The more screens you’ve got, the more stuff you’ve got to process on ALL of those screens so this might be for the better.

    • Kfal Balli

      I haven’t used Split screen since Halo 2 honestly been playing with friends online now. If we feel the need we can always throw in a older title or the MCC and play.

  • Jacob Stamm

    Considering DICE is succeeding in making SWBF II, a cross-platform game with noticeably better graphics than Halo 5, is able to pull off both an excellent AND split-screen. And why? Well, because they realized that it is a needed feature, pretty core to what SWBF has been and needs to continue to be. 343 Industries has completely missed this important concept. I’m a relentless Halo fanatic (have been since 2002), but I definitely won’t be getting the game without splitscreen because of either poor prioritization, incompetence, or both.

    • Reign SUPREEM

      Battlefront doesn’t have a massive campaighn and we still don’t know what the end resolutions going to be on consoles for that game neither. It’s already said that Battlfront will only be 30fps on console too. Halo 5-60 FPS, 1080p, massive campaighn,and more = **** split screen any day!

    • Jedi Dna

      No. Halo 5 wont be 1080p

    • Reign SUPREEM

      Source?

    • joey

      Yes it will and is go do some homework

    • Jacob Stamm

      Proper development would make it so that 1080p/60fps would take place in single player mode, with 30fps and possibly a slightly lower resolution (900p) for split-screen mode. This is how it’s been done for a while, and 343 shouldn’t hide behind made up technical limitations as an excuse not to do it

  • Jedi Dna

    A protest letter to 343
    343, you have done a great work with Halo so far, your big recurring mistake is that you keep forgetting where Halo came from. Halo 4 campaign was REALLY amazing and one of the best of all time. Halo 4 problem was that youguys forgot the arena multiplayer origins of Halo and tryed to mimic some other game things (like loadouts and ordinances) making the game loose some of its identity. Fortunately, all that could be disable by in game settings. Halo 5 really seems promising and I’m sure It will have one of the best campaigns ever, but no split screen at all? Not even in competitive multiplayer? Again youguys are forgetting about Halo’s lanparty arena origins? And why? To keep it 60 fps? REALLY?It’s really troubling knowing that these magic numbers (1080, 60 fps) are becoming more important that actual gameplay. Specially when that comes from an important developer like 343 in the worlds most important franchise that is Halo. Youguys are forgetting about the very first Halo fan base this time around. The one that made Halo what is today. Besides, do youguys think that Halo fans don’t have REAL friends that enjoy drinking some beer while killing each other and laughing about someone ridiculous death? 60 fps is great thing but I’m pretty sure no one would mind a much lower framerate just when splitting the screen with 4 friends.I REALLY hope youguys reconsider this matter BEFORE its too late.Sorry about my bad english, Its not my primary language.

    PS: Halo split screen lanparties are the very reason Xbox One exist today.

    • joey

      There is split screen in mp just not campaign

    • I don’t think that’s the case, sadly. It looks like all splitscreen is gone.

    • Jedi Dna

      MP split screen Its gone.

  • Greg Wood

    Yea I am one of the angry fans. I have a PC that will run circles around my Xbox for framerates and graphics. The only reason to have a console system imo was for the ability to play 4-8 player games. Something that I can’t do on PC. Seeing as how that ability is largely being ignored this console generation and probably in the future it’s clear I will be sticking to strictly PC gaming.

    • Andy Collazo

      Que That’s why I stuck to my pc and my wiiu, screw Sony and microsoft.

  • Cyberats

    Console no longer consoling players by offering to play alongside your friends & family ? Fortress of Solitude ? Awwwwwww.
    The Age of Console Gaming has Ended. The Age of PC Gaming has begun. Stop throwing money at a dead corpse.

    • Jedi Dna

      To bad that PC is another Fortress of Solitude since most its games don’t support split screen either.
      Seems like the age of social gaming has ended (online its not social at all).

    • Cyberats

      Yes, that too, but why throw money at dead consoles when you cannot upgrade them for solitude gaming ? That is why I say the age of PC gaming has begun. Microsoft/Sony prices not dropping to the levels of China Manufacturing costs anytime soon so why bother ?

    • Terminator

      Online is not social at all? lol Stupidest thing I ever heard.

  • Brian

    Only thing I’ve used split screen for in the past 10 years is to get certain achievements. It’s really going the way of the dodo anyway with online having taken over that problem.

  • Nick Fletcher

    i’m only angry because my friend can’t afford an xbox one, and she and I used to play spit screen non stop. Now we can’t

  • Andy Collazo

    Screw sony, screw microsoft, screw 343, screw bungie. The best way to truly game now is having a good PC and a wiiu. There’s no need for an Xbone or ps4.

  • James Hopperstead

    This is a huge loss for gamers with families, wives or partners and in-person friends. It’s an anti-consumer move and a disservice to Halo fans.
    In software development, game development and any computer-driven production environment, there is no legitimate “can’t”. “It can’t be done” is shorthand for “someone has decided that we are not going to focus our (human) resources at that issue.
    I don’t think 343i/MS realize how many fans they are robbing of a new Halo experience, and I hope it bites them in the pocketbook.
    -Don’t buy Halo 5 at retail… get it used or rent it or borrow, whatever, but don’t reward developers for taking important features from their fans.

  • Ben Baker

    yeah they screwed up getting rid of that plus trashy only 3 episode animated series…


 

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