How Microsoft’s Strategy With Xbox Scorpio And Windows 10 May Possibly Shape The Future of PS5

The Scorpio and Windows 10 have some lessons for Sony to imbibe with the eventual PS5.

Posted By | On 22nd, Apr. 2017 Under Article, Editorials | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


The Xbox Scorpio is coming. And for all its substantial merits, it is unlikely to actually change the course of the console war much all by itself. For now, it is clear that Sony is the incumbent who cannot be unseated, not this generation, anyway. However, the Scorpio’s true merits will not be in whether or not it can win the console war for Microsoft- that may be its utility to them, sure. But for us, as gamers, the true merits of Scorpio (and indeed, Microsoft’s larger gaming strategy with Xbox and Windows 10) will be in what the lasting impact of them, at least of the good decisions Microsoft is making with them, can be.

And Microsoft is making a lot of good decisions. I am not convinced yet on its ability to deliver on the games, content which is necessary to ultimately make any games ecosystem compelling, but the actual policy and service decisions surrounding Xbox and even Windows 10 at the moment are great. Backward Compatibility, Play Anywhere, Xbox Game Pass, Cross Platform Play, full game refunds, these are all just some great decisions Microsoft has made in the last year or so- and these decisions are all areas where Microsoft now far outpaces Sony. Sony may have more and better games for now – and there is no question that they do – but there are definitely areas where they can learn from Microsoft going forward.

"Backward compatibility is not a system selling feature, and it is honestly not even one that a lot of people use even once. But it is an essential feature nonetheless, one that inspires consumer confidence, invites consumer investment in your ecosystem, and is just a friendly move that generates goodwill in general."

Consider, for instance, the all important question of backward compatibility- backward compatibility is not a system selling feature, and it is honestly not even one that a lot of people use even once. But it is an essential feature nonetheless, one that inspires consumer confidence, invites consumer investment in your ecosystem, and is just a friendly move that generates goodwill in general. Sony has adopted the x86 architecture for the PS4, presumably with the aim of avoiding the kind of compatibility issues that custom solutions like the Emotion Engine or most infamously, the Cell, caused. To Sony’s credit, they have doubled down on the notion of inter- and backward compatibility with the PS4 Pro, showcasing full compatibility between two hardware variants.

One would think this is indicative of Sony, too, choosing to invest in integrated ecosystems going forward- but it’s not that simple. At the same time as the PS4 Pro, Sony has released PS2 games on the PS4 PSN Store, not honoring prior digital purchases of PS2 games made on the PS3, and it has released multiple Vita hardware SKUs, which are not compatible with each other. This is not the kind of broken ecosystem Sony can afford to present, especially in face of the unified front Microsoft is putting forth- backward compatibility, and an emphasis on a continuous digital ecosystem, are essential at this point. This is one very important lesson Sony needs to learn from how Microsoft is handling Xbox and Windows 10 gaming.

It’s interesting, because this idea of an integrated ecosystem was basically pioneered by Sony to begin with, at least in the gaming market- with the PS3 and PS Vita, Sony briefly offered a continuous online identity, with a purchase of a game on the PS3 unlocking that same game on the Vita too (and vice versa), and with both systems placing a strong emphasis on legacy content (PS3 and PS Vita both offered PSOne Classics, and Vita offered PSP games, while PS3 offered PS2 Classics). It’s with the PS4 that Sony seems to have lost sight of a concept that it brought to the market- and that Microsoft has now made its own with Xbox Play Anywhere and Backward Compatibility features.

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"It’s interesting, because this idea of an integrated ecosystem was basically pioneered by Sony to begin with, at least in the gaming market, with the PS3 and PS Vita."

An integrated ecosystem isn’t the only area where Sony can learn from Microsoft, either- the Game Pass is an excellent example of Games as Service (and a far superior offering to PS Now, which isn’t getting ahead of itself, either). That is something Sony might want to look at as a viable offering in that area which is viable in the here and now, rather than being primed for some nebulous future. Game refunds are another- you cannot expect customers to invest in your ecosystem if they don’t feel like their purchases are secure. And they won’t feel like their purchases are secure unless they are protected from poor purchases in the first place. Microsoft has blazed the trail with a truly consumer friendly refund policy- and this is one area where Sony should look at shamelessly copying Microsoft.

Cross platform play is another area where Sony has ended with egg on its face- for the longest time, Sony claimed that it would allow full cross platform network play, and it was only Microsoft’s insistence on keeping Xbox Live closed that was causing any holdups in that ever happening. But then Microsoft went ahead and opened up Xbox Live to connecting with other networks, and Sony still continues to block cross network play. And lastly, Microsoft have revealed their plans on how they plan to tackle digital refunds…this is once again not a system selling feature but it generates goodwill among gamers.

Really, services and policies are the only area where Sony needs to look at, and learn from Microsoft. The PS5, when it comes out, will be a powerful system- it will be more powerful than the Scorpio is (and the Scorpio successor will probably be more powerful than the PS5, and the PS5 Pro will probably be more powerful than that, and so on). Hardware power is no longer the issue here- at last, both companies have competent, easy, powerful, flexible, and scalable hardware solutions on the market. But where Sony is winning in terms of building an appealing games library (and that is an area Microsoft could stand to learn from Sony in), Microsoft is definitely winning in the services area. If both companies were to learn from each other in areas where they are weak respectively, we as gamers would be far better off as a whole.

Note: The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of, and should not be attributed to GamingBolt as an organization.


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  • Mr. Cimmarrusti

    It is ironic that Microsoft had several decent exclusives on the original Xbox, possessed games that could not run on a PS2’s weak architecture and even had fantastic marketing deals with the xbox 360 that is currently dominated by Sony. I am hoping that Microsoft has a great line up of hidden exclusives for E3, but perhaps not. Regarding Sony’s other decisions on many fronts, arrogance apparently, due their success, is once again starting to appear, but all successful gaming companies have suffered from this…after all, this is what shot Microsoft in the foot during its introduction of the Xbox one. I currently own all systems, except Switch at the moment, but still prefer my Xbox one controller and overall rather play Gears Horde 3.0 over Drakes Unchartered any day. Nevertheless, I support both companies and all fanboys should accept the fact that perks introduced by either Sony or Microsoft(cross platform play, free monthly games,etc) are due to simple competition and business. I wish both companies to succeed and make profit, for monopolies suck and provide nothing for consumers
    cheers,
    SEADRIVE.

  • Holeybartender

    Opinion from a day one PlayStation One fan:

    Backward Compatibility-Don’t care,I still own all my past PlayStation games.
    Trophies- Useless pat on the back for accomplishing something you are going to get by just finishing the game anyway.Plus, a good well made game needs no trophies to make it replayable.
    Digital refunds-Completely unneeded if game developers would just release demos for their games.
    Online crossplay between Xbox,PlayStation and Nintendo-No,no,no. If we can’t even control our fanboy rage over which console is better,what makes you think we would have any fun playing games together. Also,it just screams multiple exploits for hackers and modders to ruin our online experience.

    Here’s what I want for the PS5:

    Complete game digitally or on disc only.No more downloading part of a game from disc,50gigs is no longer the limit.Save our harddrive space!
    No more Day One patches! Take as long as a delay as you want,just stop churning out unfinished buggy games.
    Don’t release the PS5 without the features you promised (You too Xbox). Flesh that out BEFORE you release your next console. You’ve used this gen as an experiment for what works and what doesn’t so enough with this mid-cycle console crap,enough with the patch it later crap,and enough with spending money on exclusive game deals and use it to reduce production costs or something.

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    • drjonesjnr

      Ignore him mate he thinks anyone who’s negative about xbox must be the same person.
      The guy lives in xbox land :

    • Dougdec92

      Just give an opinion and stop being “all of you” as usual.

    • Eddie Battikha

      I’ve been gaming for 23 years and never cared about B/C when getting a Next Gen System, Fall 2019 is PlayStations 25th Anniversary and that’s when I see PS5 launching.

    • drjonesjnr

      Yea I think 2019 sounds about right

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  • kee1haul

    can’t help himself when it comes to saying PS will somehow be better than Xbox.

    • DA-ROOSTER

      PS will be better at tricking consumers into thinking checkerboard rendering fake is actually true 4K

    • Holeybartender

      From the get-go Sony said the Pro is not native 4k.Get over it.

    • angryguy77

      https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/ps4-pro/

      On it’s very own webpage:

      “Native 4K on Pro
      PS4 Pro enables game resolution output at native 2160p resolution.

    • Holeybartender

      http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/01/22/list-of-60fps-native-4k-ps4-pro-games/

      And there are games that will and do that,so?

      *Fine,let me rephrase that. From the get-go Sony said the Pro will use checkerboard rendering for most games.They aren’t trying to trick anyone.

    • This dude is trolling.

      Everybody can google which games are 4k native on the PS4 Pro and which aren’t.

    • angryguy77

      They pulled the same tactic with the ps3.

    • Liar. I just checked on google and found more then a dozen games that run in 4k on the PS4 Pro..

      Some are 4k native and others checkerboarded.

      Google it yourself.

  • Luke Skywalker

    ps4 pro just got released 6 months ago and we’re talking about ps5 already because scoprio is about to be released?

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    • Holeybartender

      The next console rumours always surface any time a new console releases,it’s just the way gamers are.It doesn’t matter who makes it first.Hasn’t changed in 20 years and it won’t stop now. I remember all the “What are you going to do about 4k?” questions during the PS4 and Xbox reveals and the systems weren’t even on the market yet. Well,here are the PS4 Pro and Scorpio…

    • Luke Skywalker

      when the OG xbox was released a year after the ps2 there was no ps3 rumors at the time. because they thought the OG Xbox wasn’t powerful enough but after games like KOTOR, project gotham 2 and other were playable and shown in 2003 suddenly there were lots of ps3 rumors touting how powerful the next console is going to be over the Xbox.

      when ps3 was released a year after the xbox 360 there was no next xbox rumor at the time. even after Sony lied about the power of their ps3 console at their E3 conference it was proved that the power gap wasn’t that big between the two as a matter of fact Xbox 360 ran games better. funnily enough after it was shown show that Xbox 360 games ran better, in 2007 rumors started making the rounds about the ps4.

      even back when the ps2 came out a year after the Dreamcast there was no Dreamcast 2 rumors at the time.
      even after sony exaggerated the power of the ps2 consoles at their E3 conferences.
      none that I remember, even quick internet search came out with nothing.

      what I’ve realized is that when Sony fanboys realize they don’t have a power advantage they quickly start rumors and that is still evident today.

      Sure rumors gets generated at some point but never at this early stage. The Xbox Scorpio hasn’t even gotten released yet but yet there are a myriad of rumors floating already about the next ps console even though one just got released 6 months ago, not even a year yet. why is that? because here comes an Xbox console that is more powerful.

    • Holeybartender

      Back then there wasn’t Internet like there is now. All our information and rumours came from gaming magazines and word of mouth so a year was a reasonable length of time for rumours to circulate.

    • angryguy77

      lol 2007 the net had a number of online gaming sites.

      Come on, it’s not like we just all got connected to it yesterday.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      Back then I used to get on GameSpot to get cheat codes and reviews and also to watch game videos. There was Internet and we had been playing games online since the mid 90s. There has always been forums on the internet. I remember getting on to talk about ps2 and it’s graphics.

      Back then cheat code central was a good website as well. Also gamers used to read magazines with these rumors in them.
      I remember when the Xbox was unofficially revealed and it was just a cardboard box with an x on it.lol I didn’t care for the Xbox then until I saw it compared to the ps2. The og xb graphics is what Sony promised us but didn’t deliver. Microsoft hit the mark for the hardcore gamer.

    • Holeybartender

      I didn’t say there was no Internet,I was saying alot of our information still came from magazines kinda like the mainstream media outlets before alternative media.

    • Barry Harden

      Nah it’s just this Indian website trying to stir up clickbait. The Scorpio is more powerful but it isn’t going to be a big difference when it comes to 4K gaming.

      Check out the numbers: http://idealdomain.blogspot.ca/2017/04/xbox-scorpio-vs-ps4-pro-truth-about.html?m=1

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      It’s a pretty big difference between my pics native 4k and my ps4pros 3k upscaled to 4k. There are big differences in games like ROTTR. If Scorpio has that big of a difference then it will be noticeable. I wish Sony would just quit the checkerboarding and just do native 3k. It would look a lot more clear when in motion.

    • Barry Harden

      If the folks at Digital Foundry had trouble seeing the difference between a native 4K game and the PS4 Pro’s checkerboarding then your views mean NOTHING. Yeah I don’t believe your lies.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      The people at digital foundry had zero trouble seeing a difference. They said that the pro version of tomb raider looked “soft” which is another word for blurry.
      Digital foundry had no trouble the difference is visible to the naked eye.

    • Barry Harden

      No, soft does not equate to “blurry”.

      No, Digital Foundry only saw differences after pausing the game to look at the still picture. The Checker boarding technique used by the PS4 Pro was very viable to provide 4K gaming.

      Stop your bullshit.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      The only bullshit is calling checkerboarded 3k, 4k.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      On top of that I have a 4k TV so I want native 4k content. The ps4 pro is good but why settle for up scaling if I can get native 4k?
      Not only will Scorpio look better it will perform better.
      Just get used to it or develop your own console that is better than the scorpio.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      Yeah and 720p is the same as 1080p.
      Stop your bs and accept that Xbox is better.

    • Eddie Battikha

      Fall 2019 is PlayStations 25th Anniversary, I easily see PS5 launching then as that would be 6 years after PS4 launch, Sony is switching to a 3 year hardware refresh cycle, this way technology isn’t held back and evolution will continue. PS4 2013, PS4 Pro 2016, PS5 2019 And PS5 Pro 2022 and etc….

  • DA-ROOSTER

    The PlayStation fanbase is definitely getting desperate
    The PS4 PRO launched six months but now it’s all about the PS5? You guys need to face reality Sony is not gonna launch the PS5 anytime soon don’t expect a PS5 until 2020 or 2021 at the earliest

    • Hvd

      my bet is 2018 or 2019 it just depends on how hard they are getting destroyed by xbox scorpio.

    • Za Dragoneel

      keep dreaming.. scorpio will never even come close to touching Ps4 sales…even Switch has a better chance..despite getting released so late in the game

    • Hvd

      who cares about ps4 sales?that just means you got 60m cockroach infested ps4s out…lol

      ps4’s sold 60m uncharted 4’s sold 3m.

      xbox one 30m consoles sold galo 5 16.5m players.

      need i say more console sales dont matter.

    • drjonesjnr

      Where are you getting your numbers from?
      Uncharted 4 sold 8 million copies.
      Halo wars 2 didn’t even manage a million on both pc and the xbone.
      Ouch

    • Hvd

      im talking halo 5 16.5m players which no game on the delay station has ever done in its history.the closest game to those numbers is diablo 2 on pc.

      i was showing the percentage 60m consoles ucnharted 4 8.7 they were discounting it after the first week…lol

      uncharted 4 8.7m
      halo 5 16.5m can you do the math?

    • drjonesjnr

      Oh god its another one of them loons who live in xbox land : halo 5 sold 6 million copies mate get your facts straight you bell end

    • Hvd

      it has 16.5m registered players hence 16.5m copies sold

      #facts

    • drjonesjnr

      Hahaha no mate that’s 16m who tried the free trial. Lmfao obviously they wasn’t very impressed with only 6 million being sold ouch.
      The only official numbers Microsoft released was at 5 million so I’m actually being nice saying 6 million they are obviously embarrassed about the numbers just like with the xbone. :/
      #facts what a numpty

    • Hvd

      lay off the ponie kool-aid…lol.

    • drjonesjnr

      Nah just facts bro xbots don’t like facts.
      Unfortunately halo is a dying franchise Microsoft milked it to death.
      Uncharted out sold it by miles lol
      Ouch

    • drjonesjnr

      Uncharted sold 8 million mate it’s quite the hit a bit like the ps4 at 55million vs the laughable 25 million the irrelevant box sold ouch
      Actually we should call it the cancel box what happened to fable legends ? And scale bound what they shown at last years e3 oh yea…… Ouch

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    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Try like just a 1/4 of a million!

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      You! You do!

      They hurt you like salt hurts slimes! Lol fitting!

    • Aenea

      Wow, you and your lies again!

      Uncharted 4 sold 8.87 million.
      Halo 5 sold 4.69 million.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      It won’t come close to sales but will wreck it when it comes to performance in games. Isn’t that what you guys tell the xbots. That it’s about the games. Well the Xbox will have superior versions of games. And for the few ps4 exclusives that they can’t miss they can get a used console for less than 150 bucks. After Scorpio is released the used ps4 price might drop even farther as the market will be flooded with casuals trading in their og ps4s.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Few exclusives? Try like 300% more than the x1 last year and 500% more this year!

      And their quality? Far superior to the MS ones, so Scorpio will need more than power to try to steal savvy gamers from ps4.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      I find that the ps4 exclusives are over rated. They score higher than they should. Look at Ryse compared to No Man’s Sky.
      Most people rated ryse lower than NMS. How is that possible? Ryse is a much more complete and a better game than NMS.
      See the people that review these games they hate xbox and love sony. They bump down Xbox games and bump up ps4 games. You’re saying quality but what you mean is highly rated because when it comes to quality how many of those exclusives hit 60fps @1080p?
      Remember though ratings and reviews are all just opinions. In my opinion the only ps4 game that should be a 9 or above is U4. Everything else should be an 8 none are revolutionary or fresh. P5 is probably this year’s best ps4 game in my opinion.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      That is ONLY what you find! and that is no surprise givin you are an x1 fan! Yet hundreds of specialized media outlets find it differently.

      Who said that? those are not even the same category! I havent played any so I wont go into details, but games are rated considering what other games in THE SAME GENRE have done, Obviously games like god of war, DMC or Bayoneta put Ryse to shame, and while NMS wasnt that good of a game, it was doing things that hadn’t been done before!

      But games in the same genre? You dare to say recore compares to ratchet and clank? or that quantum break is better than uncharted 4? Of course not!

      It means that the gaming elements not only look great but also work like they should, are original and fun. Drive club looks better than Forza 6, yet it had issues that caused it to be rated way below it, and you wont ever see me saying “its bias”, “they are paid reviews” or “its overrated”.

      But that is only your opinion, and you have showed that your heart is with xbox, You havent played nioh, so what would give you any right/credibility/reason to put it below 9? See? thats why I trust reviews more than users, You act as if you had played all xbox games and all ps4 games! And with coments like that you only prove that you dont have a reliable objective judgement of games.

      Oh! BTW P5 IS this year’s best ps4 game in reviewers opinion as well!

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      I own more than 500 xb1 games and more than 700 ps4 games.
      I’m a video game collector. I haven’t played them all and nioh I didn’t like that much. It’s just my my type of game. It’s time consuming and it’s not fun to me. I’d rather play something like P5 at least it’s fun to me. I maybe backing Xbox but I don’t worship them. If both Sony and Ms both left the gaming industry I wouldn’t care. Cause someone else will bring us games.
      Forza is better than driveclub or any other driving game this gen. I’ve played them all and Forza sadly is the most realistic when using a steering wheel. I can’t wait for gt sport as that surely will crush Forza.
      I’m the opposite I don’t trust reviews at all. I have to try it for myself to know if I like it or not.
      It’s all good brother in the end they are just games.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      So, If I like the souls games, how could I trust your personal opinion about nioh? its ok, we all have different tastes, so that is why I trust the reviews on that, cause they have that covered (at least on the main outlets) .

      And as I said, I dont like driving games so I wouldnt know, but I trust reviewers when they say Forza is better, I wouldnt even be so sure GT sport will be better.

      I dont like to have games and not play them or play just a tiny part of them, so I try to make a good research about them before buying them, and that include reviews, so far that has worked for me, as I have finished all ps4 games I have ever bought, granted, sometimes I don’t see the fuss on some of them, like Journey, I wouldnt even consider it GOTY candidate, but I have not been dissapointed by any game I buy.

      You are correct, they are just games, but they are a quantifiable object, so it doesnt look good when you act as if the advantage the ps4 has in exclusives didnt exist!

    • Eddie Battikha

      Fall 2019 is PlayStations 25th Anniversary, that’s when I see it coming out as that’s 6 years after PS4.

    • drjonesjnr

      Totally true the Scorpio coming to late leaves the door open for Sony to bring out the ps5 2018-2019 xbots will be saying power doesn’t matter again then :

    • Hvd

      by you logic by 2020 or 2021 xbox two will be out and be stronger then ps5.i can wait for xbox two…lol

    • drjonesjnr

      Yea sweet just like ps4 players will wait for the ps5.
      We are not as desperate as xbox players for a new console the ps4 was powerful enough Sony didn’t skimp on the hardware with the ps4 or try to force there fanbase to buy an over expensive camera nobody wanted lol
      The Scorpio will just be as niche as the irrelevant box.
      I mean what’s the point in a console with no exclusives games?
      Just buy a powerful pc like everyone else mate you can play forza at 4k already there 😉

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      If that where the only reason, then ps5 would never be released!

      No need right now for it! Ps4 is killing the xbrick and will do the same to Scorpio!

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      Sony is getting desperate also.
      There are rumors that they want to dump the ps4 pro and develop a decent upgrade. The ps4 pro 2 but the fans want sony to invent a time machine and bring back the ps5.

    • Holeybartender

      Sony’s on top and will be,they aren’t desperate in the least.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      I agree that they are confident right now but of the fans lose confidence they will do something to counter the scorpio. Hey that would be a good thing for us gaymers.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Really? Who told you that? Ps4 has the most and the best games, REMEMBER?

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      This article is mentioning ps5 and it’s not even paperware or vaporware yet. Plus I see it on every comment section. I can’t wait for the ps5 myself. I’m sure it will crush the scorpio.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      But where do you see that sony is desperate?

      I can wait for ps5, I am honnestly happy with how games like Horizon looks on the ps4, and there are lot of games released and yet to come for the ps4, so I am in no rush!

      I am also sure it will crush scorpio, but I believe it is not intended to be scorpios competition, that is the ps4/pro battle to fight!

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Who needs ps5 when ps4 is killing the competition?

      Games are what gaming is about remenber? Any great exclusives on the xbone this year yet?

  • Jonathan George Anaya

    I Stopped Reading after the Author showed his IGNORANCE at Backwards Compatibly. “Gamers don’t use it even Once…” Well, those 2 free games a month prove you otherwise. Without Backwards Compatibly, Xbox One owners couldn’t play classics like Force Unleashed or Black Ops 2

    • Mr Xrat

      Without your weak emulation, MS put actually have to put some effort into delivering something decent on the Xbone.

    • angryguy77

      You’re so mad you’re not even speaking English hahahhahh.

    • Chris Tree

      Says the angryguy, who apparently doesn’t comprehend English…

    • doplerradar

      Apparently you don’t realize the grammatical errors in the comment.

    • Mr Xrat

      It’s clear English. You’re an Xgimp so it’s no surprise you have difficulty with it.

    • Jonathan George Anaya

      Why doesn’t Sony put backwards compatibility into the PS4? What, that means no one would subscribe to PSNow? How sad….

    • Mr Xrat

      Switch doesn’t have BC and it’s crushing your sad little Xbone right now. Oh well. 🙂

    • Holeybartender

      Sure they can,they are called real gamers.The ones who actually keep their old systems and games.

    • angryguy77

      Yeah, every sane person would rather have several boxes under the tv instead of the convenience of having everything playable on one.

    • Holeybartender

      That’s what a channel receiver is for. Isn’t that all Xbox One was touted for? Lmao,what a joke that turned out to be.

      The convenience is that they own it and can play it anytime without ever having to repay for it.We aren’t just gamers,we are collectors. We made a sound investment and we are going to keep it.

    • angryguy77

      Speak for yourself. I’d rather have one box under the tv than my place look like the apartment from the 40 year old virgin.

    • Holeybartender

      Hey,hey,hey! That was an AWESOME apartment,you take that back !

    • Tomaterrrx

      You could just buy a used 360 real cheap.

    • Jonathan George Anaya

      Or you could just put a disc into the X1 and have it work 🙂

    • Tomaterrrx

      I’m not saying it’s a bad feature, dude. Obviously it’s more convenient to have one console playing 2 gens worth of games.

  • Mr Xrat

    Xgimps are fuming that the Shitpio has already fallen out of the conversation.

    • kma99
    • Troy Marcel

      Oh look it’s xrat trying to hide.

    • Mr Xrat

      Hide? I’m right here, slaphead.

    • TwoLiterSoda

      Riiiight, then why is it that u are here trying to knock the Scorpio? LOL, so obviously jealous and worried. Get over it, they are just games love, yes games, not ur whole life. Sony doesn’t need ur help, they are doing just fine champ.

    • Michael

      Ponyisms…lol you mad cause no one talks about vita, ps VR or that one that called checker board.

    • Dougdec92

      Its got games mind you, I bet you even see native 4k and checkerboard 4k without DF telling you the difference.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      You mad cause no one talks about xbone? Oh right! No great exclusives in the last 5 months and quite possible the next 5 either!

    • Hvd

      lmao.native 4k makes you a better gamer.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Except when you have no games! Lol

  • Eddie Battikha

    With Fall 2019 being PlayStations 25th Anniversary, it’s very obvious PS5 is launching that Fall and its gonna be a Beastly 4k Gaming Console with all the Bells and Whistles.

    • angryguy77

      cool, but that’s 2 years away.

  • Rasta4

    Sony cant put put out a simple OS update without breaking the wifi on their systems. They won’t be able to bring a powerhouse to the market like MS has at a console price. And they can’t take a loss on the consoles cause they are broke.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Lolo…2017 for xbone exclusives starvation continues.

  • angryguy77

    “I am not convinced yet on its ability to deliver on the games,”

    ne very small dry period, and all of a sudden, MS “has no games.”

    This lie is getting annoying to read in every single article.

    They had games for every single system they have released. MS does not need to be Sony in order to deliver a good product.

    • drjonesjnr

      Yea but whys it dry? This is the time when the console should be dropping loads of games it’s 3 years into the gen. If this was the start of a new generation you would have a point but it’s not it’s 3 years in where are the games?
      It seems Microsoft have lost a lot of developers with the xbone

    • angryguy77

      MS has done this before when they were about to release a new console. Common sense dictates they are working on games.

    • drjonesjnr

      Can’t wait to see them

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      That’s what e3 is for my friend.

    • drjonesjnr

      Well last year they spent there time talking about scalebound (which got cancelled) the xbox one s
      “custom controllers” and the Scorpio.
      I won’t hold my breath for many game announcements and the ones they do announce ill keep my fingers crossed they wont get cancelled :

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      They had to cancel scale bound because the studio that was developing it was going no where. They were so behind on HZD that they focused on its launch and were not going to be able to launch scale bound on scorpio. Wouldn’t you get mad and fire an employee if you paid him to do a job but instead used that money to finish a competitors job. Don’t worry about it though ms doesn’t cancel many games at all. That’s why you can only used scale bound in that arguement. What happens when people say OK well what other games have they canceled in recent times?

    • drjonesjnr

      The same developer made the highly acclaimed nier that’s just launched on the ps4 and platinum games have a great record.
      It’s more a problem with Microsoft if you ask me

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      So nothing untill then? and, since no one releases a game less than three months after its announcements that means you know you have nothing until september at least.

      I konw you know, but I am just reminding you!

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      Yes I know. Anything that they have ready now or have had ready now they will hold till e3 and Scorpio launch. That’s the smart plan if they want people to stop saying that Scorpio will have no games.
      Hey us multiplat gamers might get the new tomb raider this year on xbox. But yes I know it will be a dry year until Scorpio comes. It’s cool I have plenty of games to play till then.

    • kma99

      Why was playstation dry thr last quarter of last year while ms dropped 5 exclusives? Oh you wasn’t making the same statement then.

    • drjonesjnr

      How was they dry uncharted 4,ratchet and clank,the last gaurdian come out ?
      (Street fighter 5 console exclusive)
      This year PlayStation launched 5 exclusives games already xbone got the terrible selling halo wars 2.
      And what exclusives did Xbox have last year?
      Didn’t forza gears and dead rising launch on pc aswell? I’ll let you count them as console exclusives but ps4 was far from dry.
      Man you Xbox fans have a selective memory

    • angryguy77

      Who cares if they go to PC? Despite the claims by sony fans, man people don’t have rigs to run these games.

      If consoles and PC’s were the same, there would be no reason to buy a console. I’m so tired of this debate and explaining this. Both platforms offer different experiences.

    • drjonesjnr

      Oh totally who cares my point still stands it wasn’t dry on PlayStation last year tho the guys talking nonsense. Dry is what Xbox is this year. One game all year no good

    • kma99

      Path of exile. Voodoo vince. Halo wars and city skylines. That’s 4 exclusives. And that’s no good? Hmmmm ok

    • angryguy77

      It’s funny reading these comments from people who say they have no games. I’d bet 99% just saw someone else say it and they didn’t bother to fact check it. Saying it just makes them feel better about their purchase.

    • kma99

      They never fact check. Watch the “well its on pc” argument come back up.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Fact check! ps4 exclusives are more, more diverse and better rated than the xbox ones!

      And that makes you run scared!

    • Holeybartender

      I have 54 various games on my external for my PS4, I have almost as many games as I do my entire PS3 (major releases) category and there’s still 3 years left in its life. I feel great about my purchase.

    • angryguy77

      cool story, but has nothing to do with the topic

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Why can’t you all name all those 2017 new x1 exclusives then?

      Its funnier watching 99% of x bots desperately denying it but totally unable to name them!

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Lol so this is where you ran to spread your ignorance?

      Lol at least I taught you to remove towerfall from your pathetic list! Your welcome!

      Now, I have already told you, you need to remove path of exile as well! As IT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED YET!

      The rest are ports of old games! And a niche game that flopped in sales and scores!

      So no! Not even close to be good!

    • angryguy77

      This comment here is what we will see after E3. It will turn from no game to the games you have are no good.

      You sony fans are the biggest group of self justifying fanboys on the planet. There’s a reason why you’re considered the worst fanbase in the industry.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      This comment here is what we have seen and continue to see all year:

      1st youll have to WAIT to E3 just to see if youll have anything new! Meaning NOTHING now!

      2nd They do need to be really good! Or do you think half assed games like
      recore, quantum break, dead rising 4 or halo wars 2 will cut it? Or do you think this ports of old games you are getting this year compete with PS4’s NEW AAA exclusives?

      3rd Says who? the salty and starved x bot comunity?

      4rth You x bots are the dumbest and blindest bunch of sheeps after the
      nintendo one, you got the lowest rated exclusives of this gen and now
      you have nothing yet you are so ready to spend even more on a more
      expensive version of the same. No wonder M$ didnt even made an effort
      this gen and released the lowest rated exclusives on any console of the
      last 20 years!

      Absolutely pathetic! yet, it really seems you deserve it!

      How come you didnt dare to answer the messages that were directed to you? Oh right! you couldn’t! SMH!

    • angryguy77
    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Awwww you had no games to answer so you got fake pictures! LOL

      The xbrick exclusives is so pathetic that has his x bots doing pathetic things!

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/77fb182601febf384acbfe86781730cee17e9e64675c4316d84dec64d79956fd.jpg

    • angryguy77

      There is no defeat in a debate over preference.

      I prefer a true next gen machine that can deliver 4k. You prefer anime, fake 4k, and whatever games reviewers tell you are good.

      Not going to knock you for your preferences.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      NO, but there is in a debate about actual number of games! whe PS4 wins!

      I prefer EXISTING GAMES already out, like the ps4 has this year and the xbone doesnt!

      See? PS4 wins! I win! But I wont mock your preference of waiting…and waiting…and more waiting for an exclusiveless system!

    • angryguy77

      When you delay games year after year, you’re bound to have a period where a lot release at the same time.

      It’s called delaystaion for a reason.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Sure like last year, or this year!

      When you delay games year after year and then CANCEL them, you are bound to have NOTHING!

      Its called the xbrick for a reason! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/de3295a15849944308ac13f16652d7b72db6d9f300d5f90fb92d6eb56e5fcb44.gif

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Yikes! I destroyed pretty hard! Right?

      Well, I’m (not) sorry! You can run away now! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c90c1e802647ec6e06aa1d39b156db19a70d6c2ced73ece4e9dc313f2060d8f9.jpg

    • kma99

      After uncharted what did sony release? Nothing u know it and i know it yet someone the first quarter of this year u make this statement about ms all because exclusives have been coming out. Im not gonna list thr games thst came out for ms u can google it.

    • drjonesjnr

      The last guadian, ratchet and clank street fighter all came out last year along with uncharted 4 lol all facts

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      Just give up brother the Scorpio wrecks the ps4. At least you can play u4 and hzd over and over. You can’t do that on Scorpio.

    • drjonesjnr

      Any many many other games.
      Including
      The last of us 2
      Spider man
      Death stranding
      Days gone
      Detroit become human
      God of war
      GT
      Don’t worry I’m sure the Scorpio will have another forza game for this year thats the 4th forza game this gen.
      Talk about milking it.
      Microsoft really need to buy some new studios.
      Sooo boring

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      They maybe getting the new tomb raider game and saw some leaked pics from ubisoft of splinter cell.
      I like that list of ps4 games. I’ll be playing most of those games as soon as the come out. I live the gt and god of war games. Shenmue games have always been really cool too. One thing though why do people brag about spiderman. The movies suck and games suck. They haven’t been good since the ps1 and 2 days.

    • drjonesjnr

      Because a really good developer is working on this one insomniac don’t make bad games

    • angryguy77

      Speaking of milking….TLOU has had more remakes than MJ’s nose.

    • drjonesjnr

      What one? LMFAO nice try mate how many forza has there been this gen?
      4 already and probably another one this year.
      Nobody milks like Microsoft its the reason there console is selling terribly

    • angryguy77

      Guy accuses MS of milking games, then proceeds to use
      God if War
      GT
      Shenmue
      TLOU

      In a list to show how great of game lineup sony has.

      You need a shower, the desperation is starting to get smelly.

    • drjonesjnr

      The last gt and god of war came out in 2013 not one every year :/ Sony have been going much much longer than Microsoft in the games industry

    • angryguy77

      Excuses, excuses……

    • Rasta4

      Lolo
      The little Sony twinkies love those single player hack n slash games. Beat em once and they are worthless. Waste of $$$$ !

    • kma99

      List street fighter while calling it a console exclusive thrn proceed to discredit xbox games because they are on pc. Lol

    • drjonesjnr

      Should we not count console exclusives then? Because in that case Xbox had nothing exclusive last year. PlayStation had
      Uncharted 4
      Ratchet and clank
      And the last guardian 🙂

    • kma99

      You can count console exclusives all u like but cut out thr double standard. After uncharted released the next game that came out was the last guardian. From may up until December you were dry. From august until halo wars dropped there were a total of 6 exclusives not counting path of exile and voodoo vince. That brings thr total to 8. You sony trolls like to bring up the excuse about having a backlog with that many exclusives at 1 time. So what’s the excuse now.

    • drjonesjnr

      Oh totally Sony always release games though out the year not just in the holidays like ms.
      Facts remains Sony wasn’t dry last year they bought games out though out the year.
      You’ve missed out all the indie games like alien nation, no mans sky then remastered like heavy rain and such your talking nonsense.
      Let’s talk this year Microsoft have released one game while Sony have released 6 that’s terrible no matter how you wanna spin it.

    • kma99

      Yes what games have sony released besides nioh and horizon zero dawn?

    • drjonesjnr

      Persona 5 (very highly rated by the way) nier automata. Kingdom hearts 1.5/2.5
      And then very soon uncharted the lost lagacy, wipe out. I’m not even mentioning the indie.
      Should we also list the exclusive games announced for the Xbox and ps4? Because that really makes Xbox look bad :/

    • kma99

      That’s not a sony game that’s a sony paid exclusive. Try this again. What exclusives have sony released other than nioh and horizon

    • drjonesjnr

      Lmfao lol you really are salty huh why what other non Sony console can you play it on ?
      What’s the rules here you keep changing the goal post?
      I’ll play along…

    • kma99

      Salty about what? U said specifically sony released exclusives

    • drjonesjnr

      Persona 5 is exclusive?
      So not really getting your point here

    • kma99

      Its not a sony released exclusives. It was is a paid exclusive that came out last year

    • drjonesjnr

      like forza horizon is a paid exclusive by Microsoft? What’s your point here exactly?
      It came to the west this year(English version) very good game doing very well on meta critic 😉

    • kma99

      U could say that and it would make sense but it is a Microsoft owned ip which uses the assets from forza just like nioh which is a sony ip developed by team ninja which i gave you credit for. Try to keep up not unless u want horizon to be thr only game sony released this year

    • Hvd

      they are trying to change the power narrative to game narrative which they still lose…lol

      since launch of the ps4
      the order 1886(fopped hard)
      bloodbourne dark souls clone and a bad one at that.
      uncharted 4 same old uncharted gears is better
      zero horizon dawn tomb raider is better.

      since launch sony has had only 2 decent big AAA titles and now they try to say its about the games…lol.

    • drjonesjnr

      Yea tomb raider was great also on ps4 just glad we got horizon aswell. 😉

    • Aenea

      LOL, you funny.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      So, how many great exclusives did the xbone had the first 6 months of 2016? How many this first 6 months this year?

      So it’s no lie! So you’ll keep reading about it! Until the exclusives arrive! And God knows when that will be!

      They did, and they have more and better ones than the ones they have today! In fact, the xbone has the lowest rated exclusives of any console is the last 20 years!

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      So, you couldnt even answer that? See? then its not a lie!

  • drjonesjnr

    Microsoft desperately need some good exclusives, at the moment I just see no reason to buy a Scorpio or Xbox. Putting the few exclusives games they have on PC dosent help either :/
    Sony have nothing to worry about at all just keep them high rated exclusives coming.
    Microsoft are in a wierd position with the scorpio if it’s a big hit what’s stopping Sony bringing out a much more powerful ps5 in 2019-2020?
    Microsoft needs to sort it’s games library out before talking about a new console imo

    • Luke Skywalker

      that’s the thing, sony’s next console is a logical release for 2019, 2020. while Microsoft’s next console’s logical release is 2020, 2021.

      build it and they will come. you have a better console that’s easy to program for then you will have developer mindshare and more polished games which then brings in more consumers because the games are plenty and run very well. the xbox one is well received by developers. IMO I think Microsoft is doing the right thing.

    • drjonesjnr

      The Xbox is well received by developers? What planet have you been living on the the last 3 years?
      It’s true the 360 was well received but definitely not the xbone it’s like the joke of gaming. It’s the ps4 that’s been very well received hence the massive amounts of 3rd party exclusives it receives.
      Why do you think the Scorpio ditched the esram the xbone used for ddr5 ram which the ps4 used?
      Don’t be a daft blind fanboy man it’s common knowledge the xbone wasn’t well received hence the Scorpio.
      I just think the Scorpio is a little late now and leaves the door wide open for Sony.
      And don’t forget the sales it’s 25million vs 55 million the ps4 will continue being the lead platform for developers for a long time (developers go where the money is) unless Microsoft can shift 30million Scorpios in a year I can’t see anything changing anytime soon.
      They definitely haven’t won my trust back yet. They can only do that with great exclusives games not new hardware

    • Luke Skywalker

      sigh. check the edit.

    • drjonesjnr

      Why are you sighing? so developers in your eyes are gonna forget about the 55 million ps4 users base and go f#ck that let’s go and work on the Scorpio it has more power? Lol Jesus come on man you ain’t that daft go back in history when the original Xbox launched that was a lot more powerful than the ps2 and it didn’t make a bit of difference.
      Developers go where the gamers are this gen that’s ps4.
      Don’t forget developers still have to work with the original xbone the Scorpio isnt a new gen console all games that are on Scorpio have to work with the xbone.

    • angryguy77

      th scorpio is very easy to work on. You make the game, and it scales down to which console you’re making it for.

      I don’t think he’s saying devs are going to forget about sony, but more might be interested in making games for it. Further, PC devs can now port much easier thanks to the new tools MS has provided them.

      Comparing the OG xbox to PS2 is not logical. It was MS’ first crack at getting into a heavily competitive industry a year later than a well known already established had released their console.

    • drjonesjnr

      Developers will develop games where they sell. The ps2 was notoriously hard to develop for but developers went there because it had the biggest market share. It’s simple business logic.
      Ps4 will continue being the lead plaform as long as it has market dominance

    • Everything depends on Scorpio.. if the masses don’t buy it. Then Xbox/MS is toast.

      No way that an Xbox scorpio 2 will be released.

  • Mavericks

    Why would Sony release a PS5 anytime soon? Their sales are not slowing down on my concern. You prepare your next product when the actual product starts to get​ into the declining sales phase.

  • Hvd

    it will force sony to launch the ps5 much sooner.if the xbox scorpio is even $500 (it mite be $399).sony isnt dumd lies alot to their player base but not dumb they know whats coming.

    im sure they are already working on the ps5 to launch in 2 years while they are getting destroyed by the xbox scorpio.sony cares about their image to much.the ps5 will launch with in 2 years in 2018 or 2019.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Lol 399! Keep dreaming!

  • Dougdec92

    If anyone wants backward compatibility just hold on to your old systems, it is a cool update but not game changing, BC is mostly used by nostalgic gamers anyways, 2hr demos of a game sure can alleviate the need for a refund and cross platform play, just a waste of developers time at the moment, the time may come but not now anyways

  • Rasta4

    Sony cant put put out a simple OS update without breaking the wifi on their systems. Scorpio is highly customized…They won’t be able to bring a powerhouse to the market like MS is at a console price. And they can’t break even or take a loss on the consoles cause they are broke….

    • Holeybartender

      Stop with the broke crap, they have over 6 billion in market capital well over their market value and I highly doubt the Scorpio will release for the same price the Pro did.

      And yes,they can and have taken a loss:

      http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/123805-sony-will-make-a-loss-on-every-ps4-sold-but-still-expects-to-turn-a-profit-on-launch-day

      And can and have made a profit:

      https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/ps4-sales-sony-full-year-profit/

      Sony being finished is just a desperate wish on your part.

    • Rasta4

      Shut it twit.
      Sony not being broke is just a desperate wish on your part. They had to write off $1 billion last quarter…you know how much that is ??? It’s like wishing their single player hack n slash games had replay value in them….

    • Holeybartender

      The billion dollar write off was for Sony Pictures,you dumbass.It has nothing to do with their PlayStation division.

    • Rasta4

      Awwwe comon pony twit…does Sony own the PlayStation division ??? Indeed it does…therefore it has plenty to do with it. It’s why you don’t get a 4k bluray in your PS4 !

      Lololo

    • Holeybartender

      The write off dates back to DVD distribution sales and other things stretching 20 years.It is a very common business write off that companies do. Your making idiotic clams you know nothing about,your the twit.

    • Rasta4

      Another pony humping mental case…hides from the truth. You pony humpers are delusional Fing twits.

    • Holeybartender

      You know nothing about truth…or how to run a company.

    • Rasta4

      The truth is you are a pony humper…and the company you worship is a financial piece of trash.

    • Holeybartender

      Your stupidity is showing….

    • Rasta4

      Are you not a pony humper ? tell me.

    • Holeybartender

      You want an honest,unbiased opinion on why I choose Sony’s PS4 over the others? It’s that Microsoft and Nintendo haven’t released a good console in my eyes as a gamer, Microsoft ever and Nintendo since GameCube. Xbox games have been meh since Xbox started with a few exceptions like Prey or Alan Wake. The only reason Xbox and 360 was successful was for the fps shooter craze and even though I like some shooters (I like story shooters like FEAR or Resistance) they are not a system seller for me.

      Xbox One was and is the biggest FU to the gamers that they could have all the superior Scorpios in the world and it will never make-up for the level of disrespect they pushed on to gamers this generation.

      Nintendo? Well,the Wii is the dumbest console ever. Motion controlls are innovating but nothing but a gimmick and shouldn’t be a gaming console’s main function. A peripheral should stay just that,a peripheral. The Wii U was same old,same old. The Switch? Even more of the same. Nintendo games are too much for kids and the only series I’m interested in is Metroid.

      It’s all about the games to me and PlayStation has had the better franchises than either Xbox or Nintendo and the variety to go with it. They have been the most powerful and the weakest console with great features and with bad ones but they have ALWAYS delivered on the games. They went into this generation with gamers in mind behind all their decision making with PS4 and I,not only as a fan but as a consumer of products, can and do respect that.

    • Rasta4

      A bit of a pony humper then…stay out of Scorpio and Xbox articles and maybe you aren’t a mental case.
      Here is my opinion…
      Sony’s single player hack n slash games are mediocre at best with little to no replay value. May as well just beat em on PC and save the $. Where are the VR games for $500 PSVR ?!?!? At this point Sony offers me….No native 4k games (some as low as 720p), no back compat, a $500 PSVR lie, inferior multiplats, no upgrade to shader model 6 textures, no improvements on 1080p TVs, no EA access, gimped mod support, no dedicated servers, no game pass downloading service, no 4k bluray, no digital refunds….and NO MULTIPLAYER GAMES as good as Xbox’s. Scorpio is mine.

  • Chris Tree

    Fanboys… Fanboys everywhere.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Al good things! And it could be nice to have them in the ps5, but they aren’t necessary!

    As long as they keep the ps4 covered with great exclusive they will continue having the best console!

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  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Lol at the x bot lack of intelligence! didn’t you see the PS5 in the title? so it is not just a scorpio title!

    LOL at you prot begging with psnow! when you get Uncharted 4 and Horizon (wich are not hack and slash or anime, fool) you can celebrate that you can FINALLY play the great exclusives of this gen!

    Yet it offers the most and the best games out there (with Zelda’s exception)! And have The BEST MULTIPLAYER GAMES which are 3rd party not the xbrick exclusives!

    But most importantly, IT HAS NEW EXCLUSIVES! remind me, what 2017 new x1 exclusives do you have? when will you get the next one?

    You are not even a defense force, you are laugh stock!

    • Rasta4

      Why is the pony defense force still infecting Scorpio articles ?? Lol…They think that their single player hack n slash and anime games that will be coming to PC PSnow are all that anyone needs !! It’s pony licking comedy at its finest. PS4 “pro” offers me….No native 4k games (some as low as 720p), no back compat, inferior multiplats, no upgrade to shader model 6 textures, no real improvements on 1080p TVs, no dedicated servers, no game pass downloading service, no 4k bluray, no digital refunds….and NO MULTIPLAYER GAMES as good as Xbox’s. 2 scorpios for me, pony mental case..

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      LOL I wrecked you so hard that you couldnt do anything but copy paste!

      As I said, you are no defense force, just a laughing stock x bot! LOL


 

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