Microsoft Exec On Why We Haven’t Seen A Revised Xbox One Model Yet

Aaron Greenberg also talks about innovating and providing the best games.

Posted By | On 18th, Dec. 2015 Under News


Xbox One Elite

When the Xbox One first came out with Kinect it was priced $500. That wasn’t exactly the ideal price especially since most consumers couldn’t opt out of buying Kinect. Though a Kinect-less version of the console was sold later, Microsoft reduced the price of the console to $350 during last year’s holiday season and have kept this price for nearly the entirety. How did it manage this without any console revisions like the PS4?

According to Microsoft’s Aaron Greenberg in a chat with DualShockers, “It’s just part of the life cycle, that components that are in the box typically do go down in cost over time, so there’s always some benefit to that.

“But you’re right. If you try to buy let’s say…a PC today with the same specs as an Xbox One, you’re gonna have a hard time finding one at that price point for sure. And so, that is part of the value of what we deliver by selling the hardware at a great price.

“And you know consumers buy games, subscribe to the Live service and become a gold member etcetera. There are some economics that Sony has as well.”

It’s about more than just price though. Staying competitive in price is the focus but as Greenberg says, “the really big differentiator for us is having the greatest games lineup, having the best games, and continue to invest in innovating with the Xbox Live Service and being that great community where your friends play, where you can earn achievements, where you sort of build your Gamertag and your credibility, and we will continue to do that.

“So the team is working hard. I think we’re innovating a lot. Hopefully people feel like that if they look over the last year, that we’ve delivered a good year of innovation, and if you own an Xbox One today you know that in a year for now it’s gonna be a lot better, and so we will continue to innovate. Same goes for folks on Windows 10. You will continue to see us innovate there as well.”

What are your thoughts on these innovations, especially since the New Xbox One Experience rolled out in November and added features like backwards compatibility for Xbox 360 games? Let us know in the comments.

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  • Psionicinversion

    In before XbotMK1… buh buh buh its all lies Xbox greatest lineup is rehashed games, non exclusive tomb raider, some indies no exclusive games for 9 months… 2016 looking trash nothing interesting whatsoever and useless kinect, useless VR, useless AR, DX12 wont do anything in fact itll decrease performance *cry* *cry* but sony is the best there innovating with $15 ps2 games with trophies, a VR unit that youll need to remortgage your house for, titles that may not even see 2016 at all like Last guardian and Horizon zero dawn and so many indies they’ll have to start calling it a continent and were starting off with the West Indies.. oooo matron time to play cricket!!!

    • Mr Xrat

      Amusing comment from the same loser who shills for the Xbone despite having no interest in it. 🙂

    • Terminator

      despite having no interest in it. 🙂

      You should know, you do it all the time.

    • Psionicinversion

      wow upvoted yourself a lot there eh… wonder whose the loser with 10 alt accounts hhahaha

    • kevin

      Yeah, you would think that a mod would do something about that considering they can see everyone’s IP and if they’re connected. The Disqus software allows for that.

    • Mr Xrat

      Dunno, probably the same loser who keeps making excuses for the Xbone even though he doesn’t like it. 🙂

    • Truth™

      Yet not as humiliating as a loser defending the PS4 losing all its games to PC.

      Akiba’s Trip
      Dragon Quest Heroes
      Omega Quintet
      Hyperdimsension Neptunia U
      Final Fantasy X/X-2
      Helldivers
      Everyone’s Gone To The Rapture
      Journey
      Guilty Gear Xrd
      Earth Defense Force 4.1
      New Dangan Ronpa V3
      Escape Plan
      Ni No Kuni 2
      Stein’s;Gate
      The King Of Fighters XIV
      Ni-Oh
      Paragon
      Nier Automata
      Kojima’s new game
      Summer Lesson
      God Eater 2
      Tales of Besaria

      Embarassing as usual, rscottycuck 🙂

    • TJ

      Xbox 2016 game lineup is trash? LMFAO

    • Mirimon

      Yup, just like 2015, 2014, and 13… trash.

  • Clint Hoffman

    Its great that Microsoft is adding features, fixing bugs and attempting to bring more value to the xbox one…..

    Now I still want an Xbox one that is the same size as the PS4 (including power supply). While you’re at it, update the kinect with it’s own processor (not the xbox one’s), update the ram to at least a PS4 equivalent (GDDR5), update the internal drive to a real 1TB SSD, include the elite controller as default and heck….update the gpu to match at least what the PS4 has. Feel free to keep the cpu. I’ll even pay $500 for the bundle. It would be a PS4 comparable unit, with better online, better controller and faster HDD.
    I buy upgrades…not fixer-uppers.
    Until then….meh….

    • Psionicinversion

      lets take a little look shall we, number 1 the 1TB SSD costs at its cheapest in $ retail for $250, mass manufactured buying power they could probably drop it to like $150 vs the HD they have now which may cost them about $10…

      The kinect has its own processors on board its just the xbox needs hardware to so it can listen in a low power state so cant do nothing there

      So the APU part, they would need to redesign the APU to remove the eSRAM, add extra compute units and add the memory controllers for shared GDDR5… then theyd need to update the xbox SDK, a high chance most of its games on it would perform like crap untill there updated with the new configuration so it becomes a head ache. Bundling a premium controller that probably costs then about $75 to make (custom stainless steel parts are the big factor) versus controllers on xbox AND playstation being at $10 or less to manufacture by now…. its a lot of expense.

      So all in all not happening

    • Michael

      You have no idea why you’re talking about.

    • Psionicinversion

      why is that?? enlighten me… SSD;s are very expensive sure you could probably solder something to the main board BUT you would still be reliant on an “external” drive i.e. one that attached to the board

    • Rodney Patrick

      Stfu

    • Clint Hoffman

      I agree the SSD would be expensive but an SSHD would be fine.
      As for the CPU/GPU…they revise that all the time. PS3 went through several massive circuit board revisions (including redesigning the memory interface to increase bandwidth) as well as the XBox360 to reduce power and heat.
      All said and done, there is NO REASON Microsoft can’t at least provide a system the same size as a PS4.
      With a die shrink, they should also be able to provide an updated GPU/memory. Not like that hasn’t been done before and it wasn’t at the customers expense.
      And the Elite controller…really do you think it is WORTH the amount they charge. Profit padding for a Money maker there. Should call it the iController. LOL
      For reference I pay $80Cdn for a PS4 controller and the Elite is $180. Frickin insane. The cost is likely $20Cdn to make a PS4 Controller and about $50 for the Elite.

    • Psionicinversion

      1 TB SSHD is fine and is ALOT cheaper because it uses 8GB flash and a 1TB 7200RPM drive

      You dont understand the APU difference, from die shots the ps4 apu is actually about 15mm smaller than the xbox. From the xrays the cpu is virtually identical BUT Xbox has esram which takes up about 25% of the die space. PS4 doesnt have esram so that extra space is used up by GPU cores and the memory controllers rolling around the edges. Both are manufactured on micro FPGA which limits its die size which also reduces cost

      You seetheres pretty much a standard size to silicon sheets these processors are made out of. When they pay for the cost of a silicon wafer (sheet) how many,say in this case, APU’s they get out of it is the cost of manufacture, the smaller the item the lower the cost, the bigger the item the higher the cost because they get less.

      Then youve got the extra cost of taping out new designs on MS APU and setting it up to be manufactired then you have to shift the manufacturing to it then advertise it, slap it in anew box etc etc. This is the reason why consoles cost so little. They order millions of exactly the same parts so they get the cheapest prices possible. So MS/Sonys APU will move down to the 16/14nm APU range but it wont increase performance they will use it to reduce energy, lower power, smaller cases, smaller console etc… thats how slim versions are born

    • Gamez Rule

      Fact is IF MS wanted to make the Xbone smaller they could do BUT it will cost more money to do so due to redesigning etc.
      Why would MS do that when they know PS4 is way ahead in worldwide sales and Xbone has no chance to compete in sales.

      I know I wouldn’t spend out on a console that’s clearly not the main gamers choice OR the main choice for developers. I would leave the Xbone as it is to try and get what was placed onto shelves into consumers hands and start clearing the back log of Xbones first.

    • Psionicinversion

      If they wanted make it smaller now would be the time to do it, 16/14nm would use 70% less power, less power, less heat, smaller box

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      So third party developers only develop for the ps4? 🙂

    • Gamez Rule

      Clearly Xbone is not the main gamers choice OR the main choice for developers. That is not stating third party devs only develop for PS4 is it☺

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      So, the developers have stated that or it is just your opinion?

      I mean which title of the ps4 has sold over millions in the ps4 30M fanbase? Bloodborne sold what roughly 2? That is What 6.6% of the ps4 fanbase supports their exclusives.

      It look like third party developers should not have greater expectations focusing on the ps4 if its own exclusives have little support.

    • Gamez Rule

      As is posted//// Clearly Xbone is not the main gamers choice OR the main choice for
      developers. ( sales show this as 3rd party games not being made for Xbone shows this ) That is not stating third party devs only develop for PS4 is
      it

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      You talk about Ps4 sales so that is different. But what good does it do for third party developers of AAA if the ps4 fanbase are just playing indies?

    • Gamez Rule

      But it’s not just indies lol. More PS4 sales and PS4 game sales show it’s the people choice ( always has ) and now devs are making games for PS4 while leaving out Xbone also shows what I stated ( as well as the amount of games released on each shows this ). But all the above is not stating third party devs only develop for PS4 is it ☺

      So like I stated clearly Xbone is not the main gamers choice OR the main choice for developers.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      Well the xbox one has more AAA exclusives plus the multiplats. The ps4 has more indie exclusives plus the multiplats..so it all depends Which developers you are talking about, the AAA third party developers or the Indie developers. If indies is your choice then yes, the ps4 has more games…Indies that is 🙂

    • Gamez Rule

      Show the listings for each consoles AAA exclusives? You will find that Xbone has less first party AAA exclusives and 3rd party AAA exclusives either way you look at it when compared to PS4.

      PS4 also has more support from developers in general than Xbone like I have said so many times.

      The truth is PS4 is the console of choice this gen shown by not only support but from sales, in more countries / etc.. Even outselling Xbone in it’s own territories around the world.

      Xbone has not only less AAA first party exclusives, they have less 3rd party exclusives,
      less new IPs,with a larger percentage of Xbone exclusives porting over to PC.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      You keep saying the samething but you are not showing the proof. I let you do the research and show the list.

      I am curious to see how many ps4 indies exclusives you will include :)…..I am waiting

    • Gamez Rule

      YOU brought up Indies, YOU brought up Xbone having more AAA games plus the multiplats ( everyone can read your posts ) LMAO! So it’s your place to show proof on YOUR claims…

      But as for PS4 selling more than Xbone and being the peoples choice of console this gen look up figures and you’ll see 100% I’m correct. It’s sooooo funny watching you make excuses about this.☺

      ( last official PS4 sold figures were at 30.2 Million )
      ( last official Wii U sold figures were at 10.73 Million )
      ( Microsoft don’t share sold figures anymore ) MS just talks on how well their console sells ☺☺☺

      What’s the best selling console….PS4,= peoples choice

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      I gave you that already that the ps4 has sold more hence my comment on the few percentage buying its only worth exclusive tittle (Bloodborne).

      You mentioned that thrid party developers prefer the ps4, so I made my commnents in a sequential order, then you took a different turn trying to prove your opinion without any proof.

      Yes, I brought up indies and AAAs because that is what makes the ps4 and xbox one different in terms of games and developers. All third party multiplats are available on both systems, so how exactly are third party developers choosing the ps4 over the xbox one. Unless you are confusing marketying deals with preference.

    • Gamez Rule

      I stated/// “clearly not the main gamers choice OR the main choice for developers”

      YOU then stated/// “third party developers only develop for the ps4?”

      So no I did NOT bring up 3rd party devs YOU did…

      I even replied to you with the following/// “Clearly Xbone is not the main gamers choice OR the main choice for developers. That is not stating third party devs only develop for PS4 is it☺”

      It is YOU that made this into a big deal, by not facing truths.

      PS4 is the lead platform.
      PS4 outselling all other consoles.
      PS4 is way ahead in worldwide sales.
      PS4 has more games & higher rated games
      PS4 is having support from games that used to belong to MS consoles…IE Black Ops III, etc.
      PS4 is having games made that are not being made for Xbone Street Fighter 5, etc….

      All the above proves and shows anyone that PS4 is not only supported more by the gamers but also all types of developers etc.

      According to British Gas, one pound’s worth of electricity provides you with enough power to run your Xbox One for roughly 22 hours whereas one pound’s worth of electricity will power a PlayStation 4 for 25 hours.

      That mean’s that the price of running an Xbox One per year is around the £43 mark, whereas Sony’s PlayStation 4 proves to be slightly more power efficient coming in at £35 annually.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      You are still confused hence you keep repeating the same thing. If you want to brag about sales, yes the ps4 is leading the pack. Nobody is denying that.

      You fallacy falls with your lack of understanding between a marketing deal and preference. Your Call of Duty (BO3) comment is the proof of that. You do not understand that Sony got the marketing because it pay Activision for it, NOT because Activision was inpressed with sales and gave it for free. The funny thing is that BO3 has sold more on Xbox One than ps4 🙂

      Also, SF5 is another PAID exclusive just like Xbox Exclusives like Rise of the Tomb Raider, Scalebound, titanfall, etc. It was all due to money deals not popularity. So your comment on developers preferring the ps4 is just in your mind, unless of course you are talking about INDIE developers 🙂

    • Gamez Rule

      PS4 specifically–the “best place to play Call of Duty,” and sold more on PS4/ as PS4 managed to secure the most amount of sales, grabbing 48% of all physical copies sold, with Xbox One behind at 43%

      PS4 is having support from games that used to belong to MS consoles…IE Black Ops III, etc.= 100% correct = leading platform ( but please show SF5 proof of being a paid exclusive )

      Anyway you look at it “”Clearly Xbone is NOT the main gamers choice OR the main choice for developers”” PS4 is.☺

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      Lol…ok I get it, you have a rock in your head for a brain.

      I understand your love for the only console you own, and from your comment I can see your LACK of knowledge of what a marketing deal is, so my suggestion is to GOOGLE It! Hehehehehe

    • Gamez Rule

      LMAO!….Lets do it this way then…☺ PS4 is the peoples choice of console when compared to Xbone and here is why.

      ♦Show proof if you think I’m incorrect to all of the following then♦

      PS4 is lead platform 90% of the time
      PS4 is outselling ALL current gen consoles
      PS4 is way ahead in worldwide sales than Xbone
      PS4 has more games than Xbone
      PS4 has more higher rated games than Xbone
      Clearly Xbone is not the main gamers choice
      Clearly Xbone is not the main choice for developers
      Black Ops III Sold more on PS4
      PS4 is more power efficient than Xbone
      PS4 has better marketing deals than Xbone
      PS4 is supported more by developers than Xbone
      PS4 supports more 1080p games than Xbone
      PS4 last official sold to consumers figures were 30.2 Million
      Xbone doesn’t show Xbone sold to consumers figures

      It’s sooooo funny watching you make excuses about these truths but carry on.☺

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      Ok, at least you are going in the right direction understanding that marketing deals do not mean free developers support. That is a good start, and the main point of the argument. 🙂

      Now, if you care about sales then enjoy the 30.2 Million ps4 sold..hehe

      As for the games, yes the ps4 has more INDIE games and hence more support from INDIE developers…if that is what you care for. While xbox one has more AAAs.

    • Gamez Rule

      “While xbox one has more AAAs”…Please show link as Xbone has not only less AAA first party exclusives, they have less 3rd party exclusives, less new IPs to ( prove me incorrect with your link, no long winded excuses )

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      I will make it easy for you…the ps4 only has Bloodborne, the order 1886(hehehehe), Uncharted 4 and sf5 for this and next year…. that’s it.

      The xbox one has Forza 6, Halo 5, Rise of the Tomb Raider (since you talk aboit third party support), Quantum Break, Crackdown 3, Forza Horizon 3, Scalebound, Gears of War 4, and Recore. I may even have missed a few, but they may be considered not so important since some will be free to play like Sea of Thieves and Fable legends.

      Now show me your list of JRPGs that nobody outside of Japan cares much for :)….I am waiting

    • Gamez Rule

      Wow bringing games up that are not even released on the Xbone yet LMAO! And missing out some PS4 AAA first party exclusives like Killzone shadow fall, Driveclub, Knack, InFamous: Second Son, LittleBigPlanet 3, etc

      So really you have just stated that even when Xbone ( uses games like Quantum Break that’s not even released until 2016 ) that PS4 is outselling that console even with these games mentioned. LMAO! PS4 still stands as the more supported console with more games etc.

      As for bringing up games for 2016, here are just a few for PS4. ( Only a few )

      Horizon: Zero Dawn
      Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End
      Street Fighter 5
      Ratchet & Clank
      Rise of the Tomb Raider ( yes for PS4 )
      Final Fantasy 7 remake
      Gran Turismo Sport
      World of Final Fantasy
      Hellblade
      Ace Combat 7

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      You are more predictable than asking a child if he wants a toy 🙂

      Yes I did not mentioned the launch and last year games since they are old news. As you can see I ignored Ryse son of rome, titalfall, forza 5, Sunset Overdrive, Dead Rising 3, and probably others.

      You are trying to grab whatever you can…..I mean by bringing up Driveclub only shows your deperation for titles. Hehehehe

      Even FF7 is not confirmed as ps4 exclusive only, but who cares it is a remake of an old game that has been played already just like Rise of the Tomb raider will be old news by the time it is released for the ps4. By the way, this year only the xbox users can play it while you have to wait a year :). Also from your 2016 list only Uncharted 4, and sf5 are worth mentioning as AAA since Zero Dawn is not even confirmed.

      See? You can enjoy the ps4 sales, but they do not transfer in more support not even from Sony as themselves have admitted that its first party lineup is scarce lol…Keep living in your more sales represent more free support fantasy. However, you are free to enjoy the 30.2 M ps4 sales :0)~

    • Gamez Rule

      Free to enjoy a console that not only outsells all other current gen consoles but also has more support from developers due to having more games than Xbone, higher rated games than Xbone, more 3rd party exclusives than xbone, better running costs than xbone…Etc..Etc..Ect ☺

      More games on one platform compared to another platform shows that the platform with the more games gets more support. Simply put that shows PS4 getting more support. Outselling Xbone by more than 2 to1 worldwide shows PS4 is the leading console of choice by the gamer. So I will state this again…

      “Clearly Xbone is not the main gamers choice OR the main choice for developers.”

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      Repeating the samething will not give you more titles or convince Yoshida to invest in first party AAAs.

      Just keep in mind the following……..

      You have to stick to INDIES, the SCARCE PS4 library and TROLL xbox articles…lol

    • Gamez Rule

      1) PS4 had more **NEW** AAA exclusives release in 2015 (PS4=4 vs XB1=3)

      2) PS4 had more AAA remasters released in 2015

      3) PS4 had more indies released in 2015

      4) PS4 in general had more games released in 2015

      5) PS4 versions of most 2015 multiplatform games ran better than XB1 versions of the same games

      6) And Metacritic compiled the whole entire 2015 and found that PS4 won based on all the measurable categories

      No Opinions…Just Facts [Keep in mind: Opinion of games don’t change the facts] So say what you will the facts stand to be correct. PS4 had the best indies, best AAA, best new IP & best remasters☺Merry Christmas☺

      PlayStation 4’s game list :

      Exclusive = 100
      Sony exclusive = 99
      Console exclusive = 180
      Timed = 27
      Multiplatform = 459
      Total = 864 ( soon to be updated )

      Xbone’s game list

      Exclusive = 40
      Microsoft exclusive = 9
      Console exclusive or timed = 71/32
      Multiplatform/TBA = 344/3
      Playable = 273 available to purchase
      Total = 494 ( soon to be updated )

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      Just because it is Christmas I will be nice.

      The ps4 allows you to enjoy INDIES, The 2 AAA titles in 3 years, and a lot of Xbox one articles to troll. Must be fun to own a ps4 🙂

    • Michael Norris

      Esram takes up a fair bit of room…

  • Xbox one 2econd gpu unlocking

    We have always wanted the kinect and we even asked for the Kinect to included.

    • Gamez Rule

      MS knew gamers didn’t want kinect, developers wasn’t using kinect in all games, Kinect wasn’t a well-supported device, so I believe due to the original MS policies and their poor decisions over Xbone it was a sinking ship even before it was released into the world and most gamers would choose the PS4 over Xbone.

    • Psionicinversion

      wouldnt waste your time, its like talking to a brick wall

  • Riggybro

    “If you try to buy let’s say…a PC today with the same specs as an Xbox One, you’re gonna have a hard time finding one at that price point for sure”

    I agree it would be hard to find a mobile phone CPU, weirdo DDR3 GPU set up and an antique 5400 rpm hard drive in a PC parts store.

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      Sony has already started to shrink things down a bit. 1 gig ram modules vs 512mb in the older models the this lowers down power draw and less heat. MS is a software company that is the issue. While MS has a more robust OS,Sony has the hardware engineering.

  • Mr Xrat

    It won’t get redesigned because it needs to be the size of a shipping container so they avoid another RROD fiasco.

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    • Psionicinversion

      dont be stupid

    • Mr Xrat

      I’m not wrong, pal. 🙂

    • Truth™

      Needs to be space efficient like the PS4

      It has no games so it doesn’t take up space 🙂

    • Sean Holt

      fanboy much are we

    • xXTeh CloudzXx

      In side by side testing the xbox runs cooler, on all levels. If the ps4 can be cramped into a small case, xbox can too. It will be better build quality atleast. PS4 feels cheap, at least in my opinion. Had many apart, even xbox one.

    • Chuck Green

      I know a lot people have the same problem as me with the ps4 in that it doesn’t actually sit flat on all four contact points. I have a matchbook under one corner. I personally love the xbox one form factor. If they bring out a slim version I hope the current form factor is still available as I like the way it looks on my entertainment center.

    • Mr Xrat

      You actually seen the inside of an Xbone? It’s basically a motherboard in a big empty shell. It’s hilarious. Compare that to the PS4 which is actually made by hardware engineers. After the 360, I’m not surprised they didn’t take the risk again.

    • xXTeh CloudzXx

      Yup. And both consoles are made by amd essentially, so a comparison is irrelevant really. I mean the apu if you are wondering. The xbox runs cooler because Microsoft wanted an efficient console, thats all. Again, if the ps4 can run in a small form factor, so can an xbox one..

    • Kidd

      Has the Xbox One overheated yet? Nope but the Ps4 has & is called the red line of death. I’m not upset or even caring about the size of the Xbox One & wouldn’t care if it were this way the whole gen.

    • xXTeh CloudzXx

      I would agree, I am happy with the xbox one and its larger size. I haven’t heard of any of them Overheating. It really has nothing to do with the aize of the console, it entirely has to do with the size of the heatpipe setup they use and the large fan. The fan size is there because they knew if they had a large fan with laege blades, they could keep the fan rpm down while still moving a ton of air. Ps4 unfortunately doesn’t share this feature. The fan they use is different, entirely and requires more rpm to move equal amounts of air.

    • Chuck Green

      Say what you will about the RROD issues on the xbox 360, however no company has ever stepped up like M$ did with the 360 and the extended 3 year warranty after they found out how bad their problem really was. Obviously I would have preferred they didn’t have a problem but they owned their problem and gained the trust of a lot of gamers in the process. I owned four different xbox 360’s and never had a single one go RROD, but I was the exception I’m sure. As a side note the drm flip flop pre-xbox one release probably alienated a lot of gamers though. I think M$ has the right guy in charge of the xbox now and if all stays on the current course I think microsoft and Nintendo will be the only game in town in 3 years. Considering that if it wasn’t for the PS4 sales Sony would probably be bankrupt next year.

    • Mr Xrat

      They had to, they were forced into confronting it with a lawsuit. Peter Moore had no problem denying there was an issue for months on end.

      Keep up with that hope, it’s all you have now.

    • Truth™

      Rscottycuck you told me 3rd party exclusives would never go to PC yet PS4 has lost a huge amount this year

      Akiba’s Trip
      Dragon Quest Heroes
      Omega Quintet
      Hyperdimsension Neptunia U
      Final Fantasy X/X-2
      Helldivers
      Everyone’s Gone To The Rapture
      Journey
      Guilty Gear Xrd
      Earth Defense Force 4.1
      New Dangan Ronpa V3
      Escape Plan
      Ni No Kuni 2
      Stein’s;Gate
      The King Of Fighters XIV
      Ni-Oh
      Paragon
      Nier Automata
      Kojima’s new game
      Summer Lesson
      God Eater 2
      Tales of Besaria

      Why?

    • xXTeh CloudzXx

      Chuck. As a guy who repaired many xbox and Playstation consoles, i can tell you this. Both systems had issues, the difference is when a pa3 stopped reading games it cost around 80-100$ because of that bluray. Xbox 360 consoles never had rrod after late 2008. The jasper motherboard made certain of it. However, if people didn’t copy games to the hard drive and the xbox stopped reading games, well that was their bad.

    • Foster Hampton

      My xbox one broke in 2010 along with my friends and his brothers. They still broke well after 2008

    • xXTeh CloudzXx

      Why did they break? Obviously there were hadsare issues with them, everything does, just like anything else there will be some bad eggs. Usually, if an xbox 360 had issues from late 2008 on, it was either a bad hadr drive which will give you red lights of death or red dot if slim. This was the hard drive, not the console. It was also a component made by Seagate or Samsung, not Microsoft. The other issue is disk drive issues. Sticky drive, open tray error or odd noises. Again, as I jave proven time and time again, disk read errors are avoidable almost entirely by simply copying your games to the hard drive. This will keep the disk drive like new for years. As it spins it also pulls fine dust and lint into tue drive on older non slim models. This slowly plugged the motors up inside and dried out the belt used to eject the tray. I am still using my halo 3 xbox 360. Never had red rings or disk related issues. Always copied muly games. All i did was upgrade my hard drive to a 250gb.

  • xXTeh CloudzXx

    I can confirm for myself notable differences in the xbox one at launch, the the flat black model we have currently. I had both a day one edition and new xbox elite apart and side by side. While there aren’t any visual differences with the casd off, there most certainly are on the motherboard.

    I found the memory around the apu is 1/3 smaller. Also, many capacitors and mosfets were removed and ofhers upgraded in size. I am sure ghey are planning a shrinkage soon. The motherboard looks way too big at this time with everything they deleted in the revision. I would expect a smaller xbox next year, AMD is already working on the 20nm apu for Microsoft, so i would imagine when that is ready we’ll hear something.

  • MadMen

    LAME. Redesign it or look like a VHS player next to a PS4.

    xbox one software wise is a beast, hardware look wise, it looks like a dino, FIX IT MS.

  • Mirimon

    What console revision has the ps4 gone through????

    • xXTeh CloudzXx

      Two revisions since launch. The best PS4 is the CUH-1200. Cod black ops 3, vader edition, newest destiny version and any models with flat black in place of gloss with mechanical buttons.

    • Mirimon

      That’s not a revision, that is a custom edition (changes the look on top… nothing in the console itself has changed, not operation, form factor, energy usage, cooling, components, nothing.)

    • xXTeh CloudzXx

      Sorry for the misunderstanding. I only listed two revisions, I wasn’t referring to the limited edition consoles being a revision based on exterior cosmetic .

      I listed them only to state they have the newest cuh1200 series motherboard without needing to check the model number. I fixed the post to reflect that. Thanks for pointing it out

  • joe

    “If you try to buy let’s say…a PC today with the same specs as an Xbox One, you’re gonna have a hard time finding one at that price point for sure”

    Unless you build it yourself… This one will perform as well or better, can do everything a PC can (or at least as much as a free OS like ubuntu can) and won’t charge you for playing games online.

    http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Cf8Vxr

  • WTFITBS

    Can some one explain why current gen systems still require discs? The market is clearly going towards more cloud based storage and DLC but we still have to buy a disc that if scratched or slightly bent means we have to buy another in order to play a game that already downloaded on our system. I think STEAM is going to start maturing itself into a real gaming console that gives SONY and Microsoft a real run for its money if all we have to do is wait a few months later for it some big titles to transfer over to the PC. Just boggles my mind why I need to keep a disc in order to play a game that’s already on my system.

    The XBOX ONE looks like a generic bulky Blu-Ray Player. The look doesn’t bother me at all. Its the fact that only a year after purchasing it, I needed to buy a new controller because the L pad got stuck in the upward position. If anything, Microsoft needs to do better stress testing against its own hardware before giving it the thumbs up. I was on my third 360 within 5 years because of hardware issues. I would like to have higher confidence in their brand; however, if this XBOX ONE I have now starts giving me the red ring of death, I don’t think I can further support their products.

  • Rikarudo

    Well, I would say you don’t need it yet. Maybe one more year before we need the 2tb smaller version with hololens instead of the kinect. Same with the ps4. The wiiu on the other hand needs to be revitalized.

    • xXTeh CloudzXx

      While I do agree with you, however a lot of people buy off aesthetics, it was a big complaint about the xbox one. Not that I care, I like the extra modding room 🙂

      A smaller Xbox one will help console sells, bove anything they do now, whether it is a game or accessory. People want a slimmed down model. I think if they drop it down 35-30% they can still keep the big fan and heatpipe. Right now the xbox runs really cool and quiet, Id like to see that stay.

    • Rikarudo

      He he yeah, it’s at least stackable hehe
      True, I would love a new slimmer version, just I wouldn’t buy it until early 2017. For newcomers it would be nice though. Help the ones that haven’t gotten it yet get the push. Same with ps4 too.

  • Mirimon

    Broke last month from being left on since release..

    The only reason to leave your xbox one on all the time is if you were foolish enough, or hated watching tv enough to run your cable through it… which is not a true pass through, introduces lag and degrades image and sound quality.

    Neither of these consoles is audible (unless you put a disc inside a day one xbox one…. then it sounds like a coffee grinder)

    • efnet

      The lies you tell lol
      Be gone with your BS

    • Mirimon

      Lol, try refuting using facts… though you will find evidence piled against you.

      Fanboy less, life is better that way.


 

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