Microsoft Is Lacking In Its ‘Commitment To Gamers’ – Postal Redux Dev

The Postal Redux developer speaks out.

Posted By | On 09th, Apr. 2016 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


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The current generation landscape is a bit of a bust- the PS4 dominates everything, with the Wii U being all but irrelevant, and the Xbox One being outsold by the PS4 by a ratio of 2:1. The Wii U’s low marketshare makes sense, given its lack of marketing and third party support, as well as its fundamentally unappealing proposition for the larger market.

But what about the Xbox One? Why is that console being trumped so thoroughly by the PS4? What is it that Microsoft lack at the moment that Sony have? In an exclusive interview with GamingBolt, Running With Scissors, the developers of Postal Redux, were asked that question, and their answer was revealing.

“[Microsoft lack] a commitment to gamers,” Vince Desi, the CEO of Running With Scissors, said.

That is a hell of a bold answer to give- it is also one that maybe held true in 2013-2014, when the Xbox One was more of a bastardized media box hastily retrofitted into a game console at the last minute, than anything else. However, today, it is a far different story, and Phil Spencer has managed to emphasize games over everything else at Xbox. Desi’s answer, however, makes it seem as though that first impression stuck- is that why Running With Scissors did not put Postal Redux on Xbox One? Was it more about it being a principled stance for them? As it turns out, no- pragmatism trumped idealism in this case, and the reason for Postal Redux not being on the Xbox One are more mundane.

“We’re planning to do it,” Desi said. “[But just] being a small true indie developer, we can only do one console at a time.”

So maybe there is hope for a future port of the game for Xbox, then.


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  • Michael

    Shoddy journalism. Gaming journalism is the worst. No matter how many negative articles you write and post here and on n4g, xbox is still the best place to play.

    • One With Shadows

      Who says xbone is the best place to play???

    • Guest

      Moronic MS fanboys, who else? While the rest of the world realized where’s the best place to play. The one that is outselling it 2 to 1.

    • chaz

      Why is reporting on what a gaming developer said ‘journalism at its worst?’ Bad journalism is fudging facts, or being selective with what you are reporting. Bad journalism in this case would have been not reporting this quote, or having modified it to maintain the site’s working relationship with Microsoft. Reporting on a controversial subject that could feasibly harm the site’s relationship with the industry isn’t bad journalism, but doing it regardless because it is what was said, is good journalism. Just because you disagree with it doesn’t make it bad.

    • Michael

      It is what it is, pony. There is nothing controversial. Ms are the ones who leading with support for gamers. Bc, more features that actually work, better network support , ect..

    • Mr Xrat

      Keep telling yourself that as your world falls apart, Xgimp. 🙂

    • Michael

      Don’t think so. Xbox isn’t leading in sales but it’s destroying the completion in features and games while Sony is trying to sell VR, a idea that has already failed.

    • Mr Xrat

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

      Good one.

    • Guest

      And no matter how much you or your other desperate fanboy brethren’s deny it, PS is the best place to play. Why would I rather play the inferior versions?

  • Kaiser X

    Truly gaming journalism is the worst. Really shame!

    • One With Shadows

      Microsoft is truly gaming at its worst. What’s the difference?

    • OC Guy

      Let me guess, you don’t own an X1 and don’t play on one but still as the twelve year old you are you still troll about it……shocker.

    • legacy

      I see those panties on tight today, calm down young fella

    • One With Shadows

      You’re right, I don’t own an Xbone, and I never will. But you’re wrong about my experience with one. Ive got 2 friends who wasted their money on it. Don’t think I haven’t gone over there and tried it out.

    • chaz

      Why is reporting on what a gaming developer said ‘journalism at its worst?’ Bad journalism is fudging facts, or being selective with what you are reporting. Bad journalism in this case would have been not reporting this quote, or having modified it to maintain the site’s working relationship with Microsoft. Reporting on a controversial subject that could feasibly harm the site’s relationship with the industry isn’t bad journalism, it’s good journalism. Just because you disagree with it doesn’t make it bad.

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      Stop your whining, who cares?

  • Alistein

    Why not poll these rather than asking someone who has no clue. Even better would be to do a proper investigative report.

    • Guest

      Sounds like denials and excuses to me.

  • legacy

    Pretty good article, made some good points xbox1 is irrelevant whether ya xbots like it or not by the end of the year it will be 200 bucks with three trashy forza games included.

    • Michael

      It won’t end up like vita though. That’s for sure. I’ll take forza over drivedud anyday.

    • One With Shadows

      You comparing a console to a hand held? Well then, what ever happened to Zune? Haha

    • Michael

      What happened to walkman and sony’s wealth. At least ms supports it’s platforms. Vita was a stillborn. ..lol

    • One With Shadows

      Kid there are over 12 million Vitas sold. That’s more than the xbone for Christ’s sake! …lol

    • Michael

      Yep, and over 12 million stupid people who regret it…..lol Sony duped you fools.

    • One With Shadows

      I know people who didn’t even buy an Xbone but regret considering it. …lol. that’s bad.

    • legacy

      Why you here you tired of playing 360 games so you gots nothing else to do

    • Michael

      And over 12 million suckers….lol

    • OC Guy

      and the second you used “xbots” you simply showed that you are a ten year old fanboy troll and your “comment” became instantly irrelevant. Too bad there is nothing to play on your waste station, then you wouldn’t be forced to troll….oh well.

    • legacy

      You call me a troll yet use troll words yourself, go sit down kid

  • Nettrick Nowan

    Kudos to the dev and the journalist. It’s refreshing to see someone speak the truth of what this generation really is about. Thanks, guys!

    • kma99

      You’re just as blind as the person who he interviewed as well as the journalist.

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    • Michael

      Sony has already shown their commitment by saying no to ea access, charging to play games you already own and little to no support for ps vita….lol

    • phar0ahad3

      Smart man Microsoft is here to leech and they wont end till they have total domination they are evil and they dont care about the consumers and until gamers and devs and journalists speak up they will destroy this industry….they almost did it last gen but sony fought really hard for there spot back even with all the odds against them….

    • Mark

      Odds like launching 1 year after Xbox360 and with a $600 price tag….I think Sony was the reason for that lol

    • phar0ahad3

      You are correct about that but do you understand why ? did you know every ps3 was 900$ to develop ? so for every ps3 you purchased sony lost 300$….did you know that ?

    • Mark

      Oh yeah no doubt. Sony took a hit on each PS3, for packing in the Blue Ray player and the CELL Cpu. Great hardware no doubt. But with that said, it did cost them many multiplat titles to run much worse than 360, not because of power, but cuz of the programming language devs had to learn with PS3, but still awesome hardware Sony put out to gamers.

      However, I wasn’t arguing over why, the PS3 cost so much. I was responding to ur statement about Sony “fighting back against all odds”. Now maybe I am misinterpreting that, but it sounded like u were speaking as if someone else placed those odds on Sony’s shoulders, rather than themselves. They pretty much knew going that specific route would be difficult…s’all I’m saying.

    • phar0ahad3

      What i meant by sony fighting back against all odds..was the fact that they were crucified for nothing last gen and had people destroy theres consoles image for no reason yet somehow survived and now there on top and till today theres still fighting against that image …the media absolutely destroyed the ps3 they ran it thru the mud rightfully so in some cases but in most cases for no reason it was even revealed that microsoft was bribing alot of journalists last generation but sony still found a way to stand up and till today were fighting stereotypes of the companylike bad online, bad games , sony not supporting there products like currently people say the vita is dead and sony doesnt support it but the vita has not only one of the biggest librarys in gaming but it has more high rated exclusives then alot of other platforms or how people said the move was garbage and made fun of it saying it looked like a dildo but now literally every peripheral for motion gaming is biting of off the moves design and people say things like the move was terrible but it was actually way better than kinect and the wii and it had better games then both of them…

    • Mark

      Well ok fair enough. But the whole “media bias” thing can be said about the X1 also. This is from NeoGaf to IGN. Doesn’t mean it’s the main reason PS4 has the lead, but alot of stuff I see I just laugh. So what I’m saying is, for Sony to launch PS3 a year later than 360, coupled with the $600 price, ontop of the CELL being tough for devs to program for multiplats, Sony kinda dug themself deep from the rip. Same as Microsoft and the X1 this gen. So I see the “against all odds” thing as more complex, namely that both companies sorta is the cause of that black cloud that hovers over them for awhile. S’why I dont get involved with fanboy wars….both companies have done and still are, doing nasty things, kinda like politicians……gaming is about what we like subjectively. None of this other crap

    • phar0ahad3

      But microsoft deserves what they got they were trying to hurt gamers while sony was trying to do something positive for them two completley different things and allthough i do think there is some media bias against xbox it is (even though they keep digging the hole deeper for themselves) the media bias is nowhere near what sony got last gen it nearly destroyed there brand and they didnt even do anything wrong just shows how brand name can really save a companys image microsoft has it sony doesnt….

    • Mark

      1) Ok whoa. When u say hurt gamers, that’s subjective buddy. We all know that thru going digital DRM, Microsoft had in place the family share plan that’d allow an Xbox Live user to share his games digitally with multiple friends online, which woulda been a huge savings to everyone, while not having to miss out on any games. Futher, going digital only may have resulted in lower prices compared to retail, again another potential savings to gamers. Ontop of that, going digital would’ve given these studios a much higher percentage of return on their investment, instead of physical discs where Gamestop is milking their games off used copies. DRM would actually give us more sequels overall cuz publishers would get a better ROI. And if u look around, there’s no shortage of studios going under every year….

      Oh yeah, in Yoshida’s own words, “Microsoft’s announcement to go with DRM, had a big impact on our final choice to go with the conventional console model”. That’s from an old Polygon article post E3. I could find it for u but don’t feel like it right now. He did say it tho. So this DRM argument isn’t black n white whatsoever.

      2) So you don’t see the paralell of what happened to Sony last gen, and Microsoft this gen? Namely that they both actually deserved (to a large extent) the asswhooping they got from the media? Ok, Microsoft chose to build a box whose GPU card can’t run 1080p on 99% of games in comparison to their rivals. Xbox is closer to a 70% rate. This decision alone gave Sony the upper hand with respect to multiplats, and the media won’t let that go. U can’t really blame them, the nature of news is just click bait prone unfortunately. Now what’s the paralell to Sony and PS3 last gen? Well they went with the CELL CPU, which in one dev’s words “retarded the industry”, which means they forced devs to learn the CELL’s language, which resulted in literally terrible ports compared to the 360. Again, their rivals ran multiplats better. And the media were right to hammer them on this. Now if ur gonna mention other stuff the media gave Sony flak for, then cool I don’t debate that. However they shot themselves in the foot from the rip, taking a huge gamble with the CELL. You can say they tried to give gamers a beast system, but I can say they gambled, tryin to better the Xbox in graphics on multiplats, and it cost their loyal fanbase to deal with much weaker multiplat ports. Same with MS this gen. Ultimately both companies lost in multiplats, which may be the biggest factor for people choosing a console. So yes, that right there Sony and Microsoft deserved….

    • phar0ahad3

      As i said there is no parallel sony didnt expect the 360 to pick up the steam it did which made sense because why would gamers abandon the company that just previously made debatabley the best console in console gaming history especially when you look game wise and sales wise …sony didnt understand how stupid american consumers were they never wouldve expected gamers to go with an unproven wishy washy gaming company like microsoft because of some simple propaganda …so they took there time and made a masterpiece of a system …even though it was hard to develop for they thought developers would prioritize on their console and then maybe last gen we couldve gotten some amazing games with amazing visuals due to how innovative the cell was (which luckily turned out to be the case but sadly at the end of the generation) …..now you cant compare that to microsoft purposlley selling weaker hardware to make more profit the cell was too expensive (but hard to develop for) for its time .microsofts gpu is too cheap these are too completley different things were talking about here…..and for your first paragraph please dont tell me your trying to defend xbox ones DRM and policies at that time because i will crucify you on that ….24 hour check ins..region locking….system doesnt work without kinect…….could only trade in games thru certain retailers which microsoft specifically chose and only if “the developer allowed” you to trade in the game……..even the rumored family sharing was just a rumor Microsoft said they were looking into it so for you to pull it out as fact is just not true its something they considered later on ..

    • MaximMillion

      You sound like a homosexual rear ended pony fanboy who wants to suck fecal matter from sony’s crusty rectal cavity. How does it taste

    • phar0ahad3

      something made you hurt fanboy ? you have gotta be an xbox fanboy…

    • MaximMillion

      Actually I was intentionally and rather condescendingly pointing out your somewhat obvious bias (regarding brands of children’s toys) and therefore irrational state of mind and the fact I can’t respect you because of that fact. Hahaha!

    • dblaze

      Yet you support the company that tried to purchase “Let’s Play”… 3 times. SMH

    • phar0ahad3

      we have no idea what the trademark was for if you read my comments later i talk about exactly what your doing right now….sony can try to get a trademark maybe for a streaming service maybe for a program or anything and you people twist and butcher it to try to destroy sony trademarks get filed all the time for all sorts of things common words ,phrases all sorts off stuff but at the end of the day you and me dont know why sony wanted that trademark….

    • dblaze

      Actually we DO know what it was for… do your homework
      Here is Sony’s trademark document — Suprised that there isn’t any outrage for even an attempt at this — http://1.usa.gov/1RWMKsX

    • phar0ahad3

      Did you read the document ? because if you did you would realize that it is very ambiguous ……since there wasnt an outrage sony didnt clarify but if they did we wouldve found out that it was for nothing special….the fact that people even believe sony was trying to pick up all the lets plays on youtube is utterly ridiculous and extremely laughable ….just shows how non intelligent people on the internet have become….

    • dblaze

      Direct quote from the doc:

      “Electronic transmission and streaming of video games via global and local computer networks; streaming of audio, visual, and audiovisual material via global and local computer networks
      Intent to Use: The applicant has a bona fide intention, and is entitled, to use the mark in commerce on or in connection with the identified goods/services.” It goes into depth on page 4

  • One With Shadows

    I see this as trending.

  • bardock5151

    The problem with some indie devs, especially “smaller true indie devs”, is that they generally aren’t professional. More guy’s who have hopped over from gamer, to hobbyist developer.

    The fact that his comments don’t match up to the current state Xbox is in (being very gamer focused), paints a picture of a “smaller true indie dev”, who wasn’t given the attention that he would like to think he is entitled to.

    Also, what’s with his “smaller true indie dev” comment? Sounds like he’s trying to say others aren’t “small true indie devs”. Maybe Microsoft payed more attention to another “true indie developer” with more talent, and better ideas than a reskin of an old game, and now they’re upset.
    “True indie dev”, is that something like, “my art is more art than your art”?

    Then there is that comment from the writer about a “bastardised media box, retrofitted at the last minute into a games console”. Go watch E3 2013. Killer instinct, Ryse, Dead Rising, Forza, MGSV, and so on, pretty much the entire conference was games, games and more games. Funny how the “media box” had a massive showing of games in it’s E3 conference.
    That “bastardized media box” comment shows how very little you know, that and/or you’re just using fanboy rhetoric, they mostly go hand in hand.

    • dblaze

      Clearly this developer doesn’t pay attention to the CURRENT state of the market. So, why should I support them? The Xbox One has been on the up and up regarding games since late 2014 til now.

  • Mr Xrat

    Another hard dose of reality for the Xgimps who react by staying in denial. Can’t wait until they’re forcibly ejected from the industry.

    • dblaze

      Competition is great for the consumer. I would hate to see just two consoles in the market personally

    • Truth™ PSVR 960×1080®

      Ruggarell why does the PS4 have no games and everyone wants Sony and their worst fanbase to leave the industry as well?

      No wait, NX will completely blow them out of the industry this year after they embarass themselves with an hour of NSA Spy Camera Waggle with their 720P Gimmick helmet that won’t even come close to the real VR of Vive before telling their existing customers they are worthless with the PS (Upscales to) 4K.

      Don’t need to force you out when Sony will do it already 🙂

  • zainfazal3000

    Beg to differ, Microsoft is more committed to gamers then they ever been. The Xbox One has come a long way since the disastrous reveal of 2013. Phil Spencer has done a great job of turning the Xbox brand around and giving it a much brighter future then it would have had if Mattrick was still in charge. The Kinnect is gone, The emphasis on TV is gone, Their last 3 E3s have been nothing but games games games. People were getting bored of the same old ips Halo, Gears, Forza, So Microsoft is securing many new ips Quantum Break, ReCOre, Scalebound, Sunset Overdrive, Titanfall, Ryse, Ori and the blind forest, Sea of Thieves, as well as reviving old ips like Killer Instinct (which totally destroys Street Fighter 5 IMO) So we got a bunch of new ips ontop of the old ones we are still getting. Backwards compatibility, (instead of having to pay to stream games you already own) EA Access (which sony said no to without even asking if their fanbase wanted it) games with gold has now surpassed PS Plus in terms of the quality of games they are giving away. What more does this guy want? He wants Microsoft to send a hooker to his house to suck him off? What else can Microsoft do?

    • Mark

      Lol. Great points. Loving my One right now. Maybe the dude meant the 2013 launch

  • dblaze

    Sony has the mindshare… Xbox has the AAA games #facts

  • Peter

    A bit weird at how the developer said that ‘Microsoft has a total lack of commitment to gamers’, when Sony said no to EA Access and are offering poor PS+ free games. On the other side, Microsoft gave us a elite controller, monthly updates, good free games, Xbox to PC streaming, native backwards compatibility, cross play and more. So yes, Sony is really ‘for the players’ … not!


 

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