Nintendo NX GPU Won’t Be Powerful Than PS4, Won’t Compete With PS4K NEO For Raw Power- Report

An insider has sobering news that will probably dash a lot of hopes fans have from Nintendo’s next console.

Posted By | On 15th, May. 2016 Under News, Rumors | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


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Another report on the upcoming Nintendo NX has emerged, and this one is probably going to end up worrying a lot of Nintendo fans who are hoping for Nintendo to make a play for the larger console market with this new machine. According to this new insider report, the Nintendo NX will not be the powerful, PS4 beating console that a lot of earlier reports and rumors have made it out to be- instead, while the console will be modern, it will be closer to the Xbox One in power than anything. This means that it will not even begin to approach the PlayStation 4 in terms of raw power, let alone the upgraded PS4K.

“After speaking to seven different people this week, I can say with confidence that this is false,” Nintendo insider Emily Rogers stated her blog. “NX is not using x86 architecture like PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. The NX has special, custom-made chips and the overall design of the hardware is very modern. The chips are industry leading because they are very modern chips, but having modern chips doesn’t necessarily mean Nintendo is aiming to create the most powerful hardware on the market. Furthermore, any NX rumors on “Polaris chips” and “Polaris architecture” are all wacky. There’s a good reason why those rumors are wacky.”

She went on to draw a direct comparison of the NX with the other machines on the market.

“In terms of raw power, numerous sources tell me that NX is much closer to Xbox One than PlayStation 4. Even that might be stretching it a tiny bit. Anyone who is claiming that NX is “two times the power of PS4 GPU” is being misled by their sources. Based on what I’ve heard, I don’t believe the NX will compete directly with PS4 (Neo) / PS4K in raw power.”

This… sounds problematic. It honestly sounds like the Wii U all over again, except with the Wii U, Nintendo at least managed to get the console out before the more powerful PS4 and Xbox One were on the market. Here, it seems as though the PS4K will end up beating the Nintendo NX- meaning Nintendo will be launching, in 2017, hardware that will effectively be two generations behind.

Emily Rogers has a track record for accuracy with Nintendo rumors, in general- there is no reason to not trust her. Nintendo fans, however, will doubtless be hoping that she got it wrong this time.

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  • Paladinrja

    Hahaha! You don’t need to go ‘Polaris/Pascal’ to trump PS4/X1’s APU’s; Aeolus, which are HD7000 practically off the shelf! As if anyone thought that would be the case. Also, this is common sense with no inside knowledge needed.

    Wii U’s problems were the developer tools, those are what make the PS4 & XBOX One powerful, along with arch that easily sits on the widest spread of middleware. If indeed the NX has the most powerful set of tools, ever to hit a console, associated (as one developer has claimed) then thats a very good thing. Wii U was also on industry leading and extremely modern custom chip system.

    Its one thing that Nintendo themselves don’t look to push for realism in their games and are not into tech demo’s the way most are accustomed. Its another thing that the tools weren’t there for third party developers to have some kind of assistance to porting between platforms. Otherwise, Wii U would have been quite ok.

    • Hybrid Gamer Master Race

      The PS4 and Xbox One’s hardware are more powerful than Wii U. Period. That is what makes them more powerful, better hardware and higher spec.

    • Paladinrja

      Completely untrue and disingenuous comment. No they are most certainly not in the way that you are inferring. PC is much more powerful in the manner you speak of. There is actually barely little difference between the three consoles thats worth talking about to be honest; except for accessing the hardware and facility for mandatory installs.

      Otherwise, if you can take a 1080p target and compress it enough to sit on Wii U, be my guest. This is most likely why Nintendo didn’t follow up Wii U’s release with more development of the tools for the platform. Once PS4 & X1 released their perforrmancing, it was already too late for Wii U. Under PS360 developmental paradigms, external HDD’s would have been fine, but not after the PS4 & X1 benched. Just like PC, you cannot hit those targets without a lot of storage for mandatory installs.

      Its the only real way the PS4 & X1 are anything like PC, being they require the game to be installed with uncompressed formats in order to hit those visual targets.

    • FatAlbert1020

      Developers themselves have said they had to stop developing for Wii U because the hardware was limiting them. Just from face value, how much can you do on a console that needs to power 2 screens when you have only 2 gigs of RAM? Even budget cell phones have more wiggle room than that.

      You talk about tools, so let me put it this way. 2 guys can have all of the worlds greatest tools, but 2 guys still can’t build the Titanic. The Wii U is underpowered, even if it had the best development tools, the hardware limited their use.

    • Paladinrja

      Thats not what they have said, because it would invalidate all of their other commentary about scaleable arch. Its just what you interpreted from comments because you don’t understand the context.

    • Paladinrja

      I talk about tools in the context of, if we were talking movie making? – I could possess the best AV equipment in the world, doesn’t mean I either intend nor can, make a great movie. The tools are no less important. It’s my knowledge of the tools provided in the paradigms of creativity that is what separates. Hardware doesn’t factor into that, unless you are talking pure targets on the most superficial levels.

      Look, to you, everything is new and linear, In IT you’re dreaming ancient history. Not much is going on in hardware that’s jump worthy, let alone out of our reckoning.

      Despite all commentary coming out of this industry. What’s truly ostentatious and disingenuous, is this dictatorial binary myopia, by so many that are simply obviously, invested in very old thinking. Wii U’s performance socially online, is a perfect example of that.

    • wesley

      well the same thing will happen again if the NX is not powerful.

    • Hybrid Gamer Master Race

      What an ostentatious display of ignorance. Disingenuous? Wow, you get a gold star.

      So you’re basically saying that Uncharted 4 would run exactly the same on Wii U as it does on PS4…since the hardware is basically the same.

      Also I am aware that PC is much more powerful in the manor which I was speaking. I own a PC for gaming as well as consoles, hence the hybrid gamer part of my username.

    • Paladinrja

      ad hominem nonsense.

    • Foster Hampton

      I don’t think this guy had any idea what their talking about or they don’t know how to explain it.

    • Hybrid Gamer Master Race

      Also, take a look at the comparison:
      http://ca.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_vs._Wii_U_Comparison_Chart

      The facts state that Wii U hardware is less powerful than either PS4 or Xbox One.

    • Foster Hampton

      its going to need to be far more then just twice the power of the wii u. thats only 700 gflops

    • Paladinrja

      This isn’t 2006 and even though these three consoles spring from tech thats P3 era derivative. Thats not a pure or linear thing in modern implementation. We have the ability to make for better use of bandwidth than ever before, long before, these console were introduced. We call this ‘workloads’ and no one pushes workloads like IBM do.

      There really is no real conversation in the IPC number games anymore. Not when talking about power anyway, at best such a conversation is long since incremental. To make it relevant to todays useage, you would have to undo everything and turn back time. No one wants that.

    • Foster Hampton

      What are you talking about? Optimization and software can only get you so far. A piece of hard ware with more graphics processing power will always out compete a system of less.

    • Paladinrja

      Yes, you say “graphics processing power” like that’s supposed to mean something blanket, but it doesn’t. These are programmable machinery. That alone and the fact you talk in language that never includes the fundamentals of that, mean you don’t understand it at all. So if what I have said doesn’t instantly make sense, I’m afraid you are going to have to do what the rest of us have done and go induct yourself into a course, diploma or degree.

      This hardware magic button theories peddled online is not only severely misinformative, but also specific to mass social online gaming nonsense. Programmable hardware, that’s the most important point.

    • Foster Hampton

      What? I went to college for IT. You haven’t included any of the these “fundamentals” in anything you’ve said and no throwing a few random unconnected tech words into your post doesn’t count. Graphics processing power is a widely used term among amateurs and experts alike. What do you mean by programmable machinery? A calculator is programmable machinery. If your are trying to say that custom console gaming hard ware will out preform generic hardware, then i agree with you. But there programs have their limits as how much they can do with hardware.

    • Paladinrja

      Look, I am not interested in you talking backwards through my points. Do you actually know what you are talking about, because its very outdated, superficially offered and totally ignorant of modern computing?

      RISC/CISC, Opt, IPC.. all old hat. Wii U’s MCM is VISC configured, for starters. VISC is just one way we are dredging up old arch and finally able to envisage discovering its full potential. You’re talking about readout data like gFLOPS for crying out loud… the rest of the world is discussing workloads 😀

      I am all but spelling out for you, that you should be referring to VM and soft machinery and their frameworks. Its totally juvenile to reach for the best, most inaccurate tech available and trend some idea that a ‘games console’, that most likely would not include the expense of attempting to systemize such parts, is therefore going to ‘need’ it. Totally untrue.

      There is very little separating Wii U from its counterparts. Apart from storage (made important via the deployment to ‘mandatory installs’), there is one important area in the use of all three that Nintendo simply failed to address and the information I am under by my peers, is that of the ‘tools’ to use it. You cannot expect to just provide developers with a VISC system and then not provide them with the tools to configure it. Apart from the fact that adoption of the platform has been low, that is the single deciding factor for most software developers to just divest themselves of the added complexity the system itself, was designed to free them from.

      Now, NX apparently solves that problem both for NX and working backward through the companies, much publicized, unified development framework. That some have already reported include the most powerful tools ever to have been provided developers.

      If true, then perhaps (given the CEO’s announcement of the Wii U’s EOL date being 2018); it may be entirely possible they plan to offer Wii U as just one more platform option for soft devs to put software on and see if that takes. If not, whatever the next thing Nintendo have planned becomes, but what you are saying it totally without any context at all and comes across as incredibly myopic.

  • ede-b

    I have been a Nintendo fan (o.k. Obsessed since 10 years old) since 1984. I’m simply chomping at the bit for real/confirmed news about this machine. “It’s powerful…it’s not powerful…it has third-party support…it doesn’t have third party support…it’s a streaming device…it’s using cartridges again…it’s a console and a handheld hybrid…it has some gimmicks…it doesn’t have gimmicks”. I’m just going to wait and see what they announce, and it better be soon, but if it is not at least equal in power with this rumored PS4 upgrade and if there is no third-party support like the PS4 and Xbox1 have, then why would they even bother making a different system? I can’t wait for the NX unveiling and I hope they made the right decisions.

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  • James McCready

    So in other words, nintendo will release another outdated gimmick with spin-off games….and more mario!!! Lame! Sega might as well make another console to put sonic back on as an exclusive. Seriously nintendo, please just make games and quit with the crappy hardware!!! The last good console they made was the N64. Nintendo is dead period.

  • Graham Fluet

    The Wii U games have been awesome. I won’t say anything stupid like “gamers see in 30fps” but we HAVE reached a point where graphics don’t matter that much – and the HD Zelda remakes prove this. Nintendo is not courting the AAAA top of the line (which is becoming a rat race), but instead is ensuring it’s lineup is solid and courting those who can’t afford to develop 4k games but still have good games to bring.

    • wesley

      if past that time when comes to graphics why do sony and Microsoft consoles have such a large in stall base well will tell you why because people want graphics they want the best thing on the market Nintendo needs to realise that times have changed.

    • wesley

      And Nintendo is not give the best product it could possible be you watch if NX is underpowred again gamers won’t buy it and 3rd partys won’t support it why should they when have 4 other powerful system when will be more work for the NX version because is not powerful enough and games will be strip down like the Wii version of games and Wii U so yea mate graphics do matter

    • Karl Grosvenor

      Good point and if graphics do matter for some people then they would be better off buying a PC than a console. I think in future hard core gamers will on be on PC and the rest of us will be still playing Nintendo’s!

  • Hvd

    click bait article i herd from n4g that the nx wont be as powerful as the xbox one is.so believe wat you want nintendo is going bankrupt after this launch…lol

    • wesley

      i told agree with u they no hope for Nintendo and after what reggie said well that say it all

  • Russ Palk

    Rumors are the NX will have a Polaris gpu. 12 gigs of DDR4 ram and an 8 core cpu


 

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