Postal Redux Dev On PS4 Outselling The Xbox One: “I Don’t Think Anyone In The Industry Was Surprised”

Was Sony’s lead inevitable?

Posted By | On 05th, Apr. 2016 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


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At the end of the previous generation, while Sony was resurgent after the terrible start that the PS3 received, it was Microsoft who were expected to lead this current generation of consoles- after all, the Xbox 360 had broken Sony’s monopoly over the industry’s console development, and had become synonymous with video games and game development for customers and for developers. Microsoft seemed primed to dominate this generation- if not as thoroughly as the PS2 or NES had done back in the day.

But of course, everyone was in for a surprise as Microsoft bungled the Xbox One so thoroughly that the console still has not recovered from the bad press that it got- and Sony went on to take the lead, with the PS4’s install base currently being double that of the Xbox One.

In an exclusive interview with Vince Desi, the CEO of Running With Scissors, who is currently working on Postal Redux for the PS4 and PC, we decided to ask him what his take was on the massive lead that the PS4 had established for itself over the Xbox One- and in his opinion, it was inevitable, and something that most people should have seen coming.

“I don’t think anyone in the industry was surprised,” Desi said. “Sony is an entertainment driven company, movies, TVs or games, where as MS is a computer software company first. I do think MS under its new leadership will be making a strategic shift but how effective it will be only time will tell.”

It appears as though Desi believes that Microsoft’s focus on extraneous computing concerns ultimately compromised the Xbox One as a gaming console, causing Sony to take the lead- in a sense, what he is saying is definitely correct. However, I do think that many in the industry, including major publishers, did fully expect Xbox to take the lead over PS4 this generation, and were caught wrong footed when it did not turn out that way.


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  • JustSomeDudeontheInternet

    The XBox is better in almost every way, people let FUD influence them

    • Black Mass

      No it’s not. I own BOTH and I like and dislike them both the same. One system has what the other system doesn’t and the other system can do what one system can’t. They’re pretty much equal and just depends on what you like more…slightly better Res or features. In the end they are both week A** systems for this day and age, just one is slightly stronger (and I mean slightly) and not by much regardless of what Sony Fanboys would like to think. I was really disappointed with both but now I just enjoy them for what they are.

    • sgt_hammertime

      last week or this week or next week?

    • Black Mass

      I’m on a phone swiping so spelling mistakes happen, but you already know this.

    • Sacha Salvatore Morgese

      I own both, I prefer PS4 because it has more games that suit my tastes, but in the end the 2 consoles have pretty much the same library. Having both is not really ideal this generation, you always end up using one more than the other (in my case PS4, since I have more friends there and I always go with the best looking version).

    • Black Mass

      It’s ideal if I want to play Halo 5 and Gears on one and uncharted, The last of us on another.

    • Dakeem P

      No bro Every PlayStation is an A even PS3. Only the Xbox 360 is an A console. The Xbox One is just a Microsoft PS3 copycat

    • Black Mass

      What ever makes you feel better Bro.

    • Michael

      Don’t say that. Sony fans don’t take facts so well. Of course xbox is better.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Lol, you said it like you believe it.

    • Counterproductive

      In almost every way but power, third party support, internal studios, and sales.

      But otherwise, better.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      Thrid party support, you mean CHEAP indie games like those being the force behind the ps4?

      Internal studios? You mean Sony hired the whole Lionhead studio staff, and did not close Evolution? 🙂

      Ok, you win…the PS4 has sold more than the XB1… You win there, enjoy the Sales game!

    • Counterproductive

      Where 99% of all third party games look and run better on the PS4, any wonder developers are all lining up to sing it’s praises.

      Also Hideo Kojima says hi.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      I am glad that you took the time to conduct the study to come up with your percentages. My question is how the remaining 1% managed to make their games look and run better on the underpowered Xbox One? 😉

      Yes, say hi to Hideo Kojima for me. I am just wondering how in the world a Japanese developer decided to join a Japanese corporation, considering how anti-nationalist the japanese people are… You know, kinda like the american people are. But yes, I am overwhelmed with the amount of big titles Kojima is producing for Sony after being fired by Konami.

    • Counterproductive

      You misunderstand. The other 1% run the same on both systems. And there are a lot of American and European developers that work for Sony too, including their most prominent studios Naughty Dog, Guerilla Studios, Sony Santa Monica, and Sucker Punch.

      Let’s be real. I like the Xbox One the same as the next guy, but outside of the first party games, I’m playing the exclusives on PC. I would actually go so far as to re-buy MCC on PC if it were ever released. MS had to overclock the CPU at the 11th hour to even compete with the PS4, and the system still turns in lower resolutions and FPS on third party games. After the 360, that’s just disappointing.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      It is ok not to like a particular platform. But what i find to be funny is that Sony fanboys all of a sudden claimed to own a powerful PC the moment MS announce that ‘former’ xbox exclusives would go to Pc. 🙂

    • Counterproductive

      Not sure what you’re getting at. I own a Xbox One, and would play it more if the situation were different. But it isn’t. People say they prefer using one controller over another, and I get that. But performance is performance and that’s not subjective, that is quantifiable.

      After the 360 Microsoft should have had a slam dunk with the One, but they put their resources into other initiatives rather than concentrating on the hardware and improving the experience. Instead of the cost of a Kinect in every box, they could have put that money towards the hardware instead. They could have had superior hardware for the One, and continued to grow their market share without pricing themselves out of the market. Now they’re committed to that build even after they cut the Kinect out, because they can’t split their customer pool. None of this has anything to do with Sony or the PS4; this is entirely a problem of Microsoft’s own making.

      So blame “Sony fanboyism” if you want, but that’s not what’s at work here. Look at this objectively rather than from an “us and them” viewpoint, and listen to me when I say that I feel I have a legitimate complaint. The Xbox One could have been better if different decisions were made. I’ll still play the series that I’ve enjoyed all along, but why wouldn’t I play the better version of the games if I have an option?

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      I will assume that you refer to a competent PC (let’s say within a price range of at least $1500 ) to the xbox One when talking about “peformance” advantage. If you suggest that the same performance advantage is evident in the final display between the ps4 and XB1 then your quantifiable data has to be passed on to the advanced equipment of Digital Foundry to be confirmed.

      But let’s go back to PC vs Console. You can absolutely get better performance in a capable PC, but the console wins in the price/perfrmance category. In the case of raw power the console will never match a top of the line PC, but there are other factors that make people choose them over PCs.

      Now, If you are still upset at MS for what they tried to do back in 2013 then ok, but none of those policies were ever implemented. In fact, MS has worked harder than Sony with more investment in First Party Games, Services, and features. Sure, MS made a mistake by merging the kinect into the Xbox Design which was probably the cause of lowering the GPU and RAM specs in order to keep the price down. However, the hardware advantages of the PS4 are not that susbstantial when it comes to the final product that would make anybody with a particular preference of a controller or some features to move on to the other platform.

      My point is that the power differences are not that susbtantial between the XB1 and Ps4. You may feel that you play the better version if there is some extra agrass or things like that, but the levels, map size and gameplay remains the same across both platforms. So, it all comes down to personal preference.

      As for your last comment, what should I blame the Sony fanboys for? I mean I prefer the XB1, and the thing has sold around 20 M.

    • Counterproductive

      If Sony put out games on PC, I’d play them there too. Until that happens, I’ll play their games on PS4. Third party games too (unless they’re on PC ). The difference between the platforms is noticeable however, and depending on the game the Xbox One version gets reductions in resolution, frame rate, effects and/or texture size to maintain performance comparable to the PS4 version of the same game. So I choose the better version of the game. Simple as that.

      And it doesn’t cost that much to get better graphics on PC than a console. If you want to spend more, you can get a lot better graphics. And if you want to spend a LOT more, well you get the idea.

    • John Mapley

      Excuse me for jumping back in at this point, but that was a very fair and reasoned argument. Nice to hear that from you 🙂

    • TristanPR77

      Here on planet earth, is not. That is why the PS4 is dominating worldwide the whole console market like there is no competition at all.

    • Truth™ PSVR 960×1080®

      POS4 is proof People will eat s**t as long as it’s marketed correctly

    • Sacha Salvatore Morgese

      And with that name and that avatar you are definitely not biased.

    • Truth™ PSVR 960×1080®

      PC is the master race. POS4 is complete garbage. Xbone is dead and Sonycucks are desperately trying to compare itself to the deadbone because it’s the only thing justifying their trash console

      Hope that clears it up for you 🙂

    • J.j. Barrington

      When was the last time you took your meds?

    • Truth™ PSVR 960×1080®

      I’m not the crazy one comparing their garbage console to a dead console, loser 🙂

    • J.j. Barrington

      Too long ago, it seems.

    • Truth™ PSVR 960×1080®

      PS4 has had no games for three years so no wonder you have gone insane 🙂

    • J.j. Barrington

      That’s nice.

    • andy

      And definitely not somebody who pirates every PC game when given the chance. THAT’S why you in particular are part of the mustard race.

    • Truth™ PSVR 960×1080®

      Awwww. Poor special needs console kid still thinks emulation is piracy even though you can legally dump your bios from your PS2 and emulate PS2 discs from PC DVD Drive with PCSX2. Meanwhile Sony charges you for a digital download.

      Tragic how much of a cuck you are that you pay for the same game over and over again. And pay for sub par 30FPS trash multiplats and garbage exclusives on top of that. Sonycucks love suffering it seems 🙂

    • One With Shadows

      Better for what? Being a paperweight? Oh okay. Gotcha. That I can see.

    • Eddie Battikha

      And u let misterxmedia brain wash you, the gap will only furthen when PS4K comes out at the end of the year .

    • J.j. Barrington

      List em, then.

    • textomatic

      The only department Xbox is worse than PS4 is power, and not by much. Other than that it pretty much comes down to your taste in games and controller. Some of us do like the Microsoft exclusives and prefer the Xbox controller. Oh, and there is that great feature of backwards compatible games. It isn’t a feature that will probably make someone choose an X1 over a PS4 but it is nice to have and better than paying a monthly subscription like Sony wants us to do. And last I would say that Microsoft is always evolving features on the X1 at a faster pace than Sony and in that department I think Sony does trail Microsoft. The one thing I do know is that Sony isn’t winning because it has better exclusives. It’s all about perception and marketing and that’s why Sony is the market leader.

    • J.j. Barrington

      You’re right that much of it comes down to preference. Which is why it’s a silly claim to say Xbox is “better in almost every way.”

      Also, please don’t start with the poor equations. There isn’t a BC at all for the PS4, so don’t go calling something else that. Whether it’s PSNow or anything else, it’s not the same or similar to what’s on Xbox; the reverse is also true, so while you can jump on the love for BC that’s years too late and too limited besides, don’t forget there’s nothing like SharePlay on XB1. And yes, the XB1 has been adding more features… because it LACK MORE at launch.

      As for exclusives, take your pick: sales or critical reception. I’m fairly certain Sony’s winning in both departments. I’m not a big fan of metacritic- or VGChartz- but if you’ve got something beyond these to determine the better exclusives, I’ll hear it… unless it’s your own personal opinion, which doesn’t count for much. Otherwise the XB1 wouldn’t even be on my radar, especially since the only really interesting game to me- QB- is apparently not the blockbuster people thought it would be(meaning it’s not enough for me to drop money on an XB1 for just that one game).

      It’s either naive or disingenuous of you to try and boil it all down to perception and marketing. Yes, they play a role, but they’re not the primary determining factors. Of course, I can understand why you’d want to do that; there’s not much else you can rely on, here.

    • Hvd

      not really xbox will always have the better sevices and multiplayer network its been thet way since the 360 and still going today.play station has had no good exclusives this gen.
      xbox has blown it out the water with exclusives and games for gold vs ps+ indies.

      the the ps4 is about 15% more powerful.in pc terms thats like a 980 vs a 980 ti .but fanboys have only that to cling to and it only matters to them…lol

    • J.j. Barrington

      Always? Yet XBL has had more issues this gen- and even this year- than PSN has.

      “No good exclusives” is subjective, and exactly the sort of response a troll or fanboy would have.

      Games WITH Gold has been mostly average, with a decent month here or there, and ONE somewhat debated win over PS+.

      Considering the difference in performance- resolution, framerate, lighting effects, etc- between PS4 and XB1 versions of games is frequently greater than 15%(just the difference in 720p to 900p is already a 25% increase in pixels on display), you may want to try taking your math classes over again.

    • Hvd

      #1 wrong as usual sir.psn has been down alot more this gen the xbl.

      #2 the only good EXCLUSIVE so far is bloodborne and still no uncharted over 2 years and another console coming out ps4.5…lol

      #3 ps+ has offered nothing but indies. games with gold has destroyed it.

      #4 there is only one dev now that cant hit 1080p and they even only hit 900p on the ps4 and its dice.you guys still cant tell the difference between 1080p ad 900p battlefield hardline ring a bell?

      you may need to take some intelligence clases before forming your responses.

    • J.j. Barrington

      1. Got proof? Or is it just you saying things? Seems more like the latter.

      2. Subjective. You being someone who doesn’t own a PS4, you’re not even qualified to remark. Halo flopped for a Halo, Forza has been disappointing and there’s already been three of them. And no Gears until after Uncharted comes out. So… what’s your point here?

      3. Proof that you’re actually as clueless as everybody thinks.

      4. Pretty certain multiple upcoming games still won’t hit 1080p, and there’s STILL better graphical effects on PS4 versions. If by “you guys” you mean other Xbox fanboys like yourself, then you are correct.

      5. No such thing as “clases.”

      Try again, sad little fanboy.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      So you bring your subjective points of view, and demand others to show proof of random events? Well, it is clear that during major online problems PSN has suffered the most, and if you don’t know that, then research it and learn.

      For instance, You claim to be able to count pixels in 30 fps images, but you do NOT HAVE any proof of that ( I am still waiting..lol).

      But let me play with your ps4 fanboy brain a little bit..hehehe… Let’s assume the xbox is 900p forever and he ps4 is 1080p. That would be close to what 40% percent in pixel density right? Well, at about 8 feet a 4K resolution starts to lose its ‘noticeable’ advantages over the 1080p. Now, 4K is clearly close to 400% in resolution compared to 1080p, but at 8 ft the advantages are not noticeable, so will 40% make that big of a difference compared to 400? Unless of course you want DIgital Foundry to find that out for you.

      See? You demand objectivity, but your Sony fanboyism leads you to do the opposite.

    • J.j. Barrington

      “You claim to be able to count pixels in 30 fps images”

      lol, no. Your reading comprehension is intentionally abysmal.

      “at about 8 feet a 4K resolution starts to lose its ‘noticeable’ advantages over the 1080p.”

      Depends on TV size, doesn’t it? And you say “starts to lose,” and then later try to insist “advantages are not noticeable.” Not at all the same thing, AND while you talk about claims, you have NOTHING to back this claim up.

      Furthermore, while you talk of my saying something subjective, you didn’t actually reference anything of the sort. My ability to see differences in resolution isn’t subjective; either I can or I can’t.

      I can.

      You failed in all your attempts.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      So I failed according to your poor logic? Ok, I am not worry at all about your statement since it is based on a purely illogical subjectivity 🙂

      But it is fun to see that I almost fry your Ps4 brain by applying some logic…:)…..now, with the little you have left go ahead and reserach about distance and resolution…but just to be nice the TV size I was referring to was a 65 inch. However, in the study (or article for that matter) they have a nice chart of resolutions, TV sizes and distances….GOOGLE IT!

    • phar0ahad3

      The xbox is the biggest POS to ever exist imo i honestly cant believe people still buy that product…its amazing to me how something can be a complete and total failure in every way yet still people will ride or die for it…..its mindblowing to me….

  • ambleThought

    M$ cannot buy their way in. They have to earn it.

    • phar0ahad3

      Comment is beautiful …..any other industry microsoft would win because they would od what theyve always done which is steal and buy until they have 100% market share….but this industry exposes them for what they are…if you dont have creativity and arent passionate about this industry gamers will expose you and not buy your products….

    • Angela Shelton

      Till I saw the draft which was of 8135 dollars, I accept that my friend’s brother was like really generating cash in his free time with his pc..lc His aunt’s neighbor has been doing this for 11 months and by now repaid the loan on their house and purchased a new Car .

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    • JustSomeDudeontheInternet

      This is the single dumbest thing i have ever read, feel bad about yourself

    • phar0ahad3

      Salt…..

    • JustSomeDudeontheInternet

      Nah, just a genuine statement on the absurdity of your moronic comment

    • phar0ahad3

      Smart guy how is it moronic ? lets see if you can intellectualize a statement…

    • JC

      Sony did it back in the day…

  • Truth™ PSVR 960×1080®

    And both consoles are still turds.

    PAthetic generation again. Postal devs always should be on PC. PC always wins, baby.

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  • John Mapley

    Where’s the exclusive interview? (two sentences != an interview)

  • Evil_Annie_2015

    I am surprised that words from a developer of a low budget INDIE game are taken serious…WAIT! He is developing a CHEAP game for the ps4 and PC (where is the power?)…nevermind 🙂

    • John Mapley

      I have literally no side in the PS4/XB/PC “debate”, but Vince Desi is an industry veteran that’s been making high profile (if not AAA high budget) games for 20 years. Just saying.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      IWhat substantial contributions has he made to the industry besides this biased comment to promote his 8-bit indie game on the PS4 and PC?

    • John Mapley

      1) I am intrigued by your use of “indie” as a derogatory term.

      2) I’m not even sure this game can be described as indie since it was initially developed with publisher support.

      3) It’s not “8-bit” in the literal or slang sense.

      4) Is Google that difficult? Briefly, he’s the founder of RWS, developer of the Postal series which has enough of a cult following to qualify for a horrible Uwe Boll movie. Postal 2 was a very early open world first person shooter. Desi has personally fought tooth and nail so that kids called Evil_Annie can play their ultra-violent AAA+++ 9999-bit non-indie blockbuster video games free of censorship.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      Is the term indie a derogatory one?…ok it is a16-bit indie, not 8 🙂

      This guy Desi may have some history with low budget titles, but his game falls within the realm of the indie world therefore his commment is as vague or valid as anyone developing indies (including yours if you decide to develope an indie game). That is why i found it interesting that his comment was taken serious.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Do you know what indie is? Are you sure you understand what words are?

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      I clearly understand it more than you do. I know that you will mention CDPR as an example of an indie developer, but that is the only exemption as they publish their own games both digital and physical, and the investment in their games is very high.

      The funny thing is that I am sure your ps4 eyes can see a difference between 900p vs 1080p, but CANNOT distinguish an Indie from a AAA game…;)

    • J.j. Barrington

      They are actually NOT the only exemption. Ah, to be as ignorant and blissful as you.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      Well, you can attempt to insult someone, but your problem is that you have nothing to back you up. Therefore, without the risk of being wrong I can assume that the word ignorance is something that you practice everyday due to your limited knowledge.

      But, the point here “Mr PS4 powerful eyes”,…..please tell me which other inde developer publishes their own BIG budget games at the level of the bigger publishers?

    • John Mapley

      I’ll reiterate that I have no side in the XB vs. PS war, but you can’t see the difference between 900p and 1080p? That’s 20% more rows. Why do you think 1080p and 4K content exists if people can’t see the difference?

      As for Desi, you can take his comment for what it is, the *opinion* of an industry veteran who’s been making games since before you were playing them. The validity of an opinion bears no relationship to the “power” or “budget” of the person who expresses it.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      If there was no such a thing as UPSCALING then a 900p image in a 1080p screen would show black bars. I am sure that the upscaling techniques are more than capable of handling a 20% job and maintain a good image quality and when you refresh it at 30fps then you need special software to do the pixel count. Quantum break is an example of that, nobody was saying anything about its 720p resolution until Digital Fountry did its analysis.

      There is obviously a difference between the resolutions and becomes more noticeable as you get closer. However, there are also limitations to what the human eye can perceive at certain distances. Look, i want as many pixels a manufacturer can fit in a TV set, I want to be able to sit 1ft or 20 and still be able to see the same picture quality and 4K is still not there with the big screen sizes so expect more ‘K’ on the way.

      As for Desi, well you can interview any indie developer , let’s say the devs of Reagan-Gorbachev and run wild with an article about their opinion. 🙂

    • J.j. Barrington

      Clearly showing you don’t know what indie is.

      Having “BIG budget games at the level of the bigger publishers” has no relation on whether or not a team or game is indie. The ACTUAL point is that while you’re being a little twat(THAT’S an insult; your being ignorant is a simple fact), there’s a number of devs and games that don’t fall into your “16-bit” category.

      Not sure why you thought suddenly setting a minimum budget would change anything.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      And yet…..you have not mantioned a single indie that matches the situation of CDPR….

      What I find interesting is that your own words just validate my comment that your daily life is immersed in a world of ignorance…hehe

    • J.j. Barrington

      CDPR isn’t a benchmark.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      So, Reagan-Gorbachev is at the level of the witcher 3? 🙂

    • J.j. Barrington

      You’re at the level of pathetic.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      That’s it? If that is all you can come up with then you would be one level below 🙂

    • J.j. Barrington

      It’s all I can care to respond with. You’re a lost cause.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      So, now it is my fault that you have nothing remotely logical to add? lol

    • J.j. Barrington

      And now you show you don’t know what that word means, either.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      Ok, it is my fault that you have nothing smart to say.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Do you know what “smart” means?

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      It is exactly the OPPOSITE of what you are…lol

  • andy

    Haha yeah right. That is totally NOT why Ubi signed that The Division marketing deal or EA NOT doing the same with a number of titles BEFORE the worse games console reveal in history on May 21st 2013. Games like Plants vs Zombies and the FIFA Ultimate team exclusive crap.
    Xbox sales actually surprised me. Gamestop Ireland preorder sales on the consoles were literally 3:1 PS4:Xbone. So it is a surprise it actually is sitting around the half way point of PS4 sales since launch, it looked like the gap was going to be way more. And yes, PS4 Day 1 sales annihilated total Wii U sales to date when PS4 launched.

    Nice of you to bring up the 360 “breaking” PS2’s monopoly. Yeah when the next competing console wouldn’t even launch for a year and a year and a half in EU. THAT is what is so incredible about PS4’s sales. Xbone literally launched before PS4 in EU and a week after PS4 in the US. There is absolutely no excuse for the insane success of PS4. Put THAT in your article Gamingbone

  • Hvd

    look at that a ps4 dev praising the ps4 who would have thought.wonder if he is being paid.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Postal isn’t a Sony game.

  • DLConspiracy//

    Man people really hate the existence of xbox in the comments. lol Can’t have multiple platforms and enjoy them all? That would be a horrible perspective as a gamer.

    “You can only have one console and one place to play games. IT BETTER BE PLAYSTATION! Or I will spend every day putting down its competition in the comments!”

    Some people are pretty tireless at their hatred. Best way to be.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Yeah, you’re about the only person who feels that.

    • DLConspiracy//

      There are millions who enjoy it. Keep trying to desuede people from enjoying it though. No matter what you say people just enjoy games everywhere. Some like yourself dont. *shrug*

    • J.j. Barrington

      Where did I try to “desuede” anybody?

      I was talking specifically about your crazy defense here.

      “Many people really hate the existence of xbox in the comments.”

      And there’s that ridiculous hyperbole, too.

      “You can only have one console and one place to play games.”

      Who said anything like that? Just looked through the 50+ comments and saw nothing like that… except, if anything, I see a lot of Xbox fans trying their hardest to downplay the PS4’s success, claiming it’s down solely to marketing and the like.

      But, of course, that didn’t even register in your vision, did it?

    • DLConspiracy//

      You think it’s all roses and rainbows from the PS only crowd? lol. Give me a break. Look at this entire thread and see how many people have actually put PS down and how many have put xbox down an any degree. Pictures etc.. It’s pretty plain to see, unless you don’t want to see it. It’s fine. I don’t care. I gotta run. Going out tonight. Late.

    • J.j. Barrington

      “You think it’s all roses and rainbows from the PS only crowd?”

      Intimated by what remark?

      “Look at this entire thread”

      Did that. Saw hvd and Truth, among others, out of control. Just as they always are. And with the most ridiculous nonsense you could imagine. I saw plenty of people rebutting them, though. Is that what you saw?

      Care to try and count out who did what from which side?

  • Rikarudo

    i actually think xbox recovered very quickly from the e3 fiasco, its just that its been kind of sending mixed messages ever since and even now we are still trying to figure out if we even need and xbox if we have a pc since the exclusive games they produce are basically just console exclusive. hate or love ps4, its done well every single event, creating games no one else has, niche games like bloodborne, the wild, dreams, the last guardian etc, like nintendo playing its own game but with strong support from all sides including 3rd party and indies.
    im excited for e3, this year will basically decide which console without a doubt, has the best plans for the next 5 years.
    and pc, well, i always love how pc gamers always come to console sites with comments.

  • Knowles2

    The article ignores that outside of the UK/US Sony was always way stronger than Xbox, even at the height of it power.


 

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