PS4’s GDDR5 Memory Apparently Has No Advantage Over Xbox One DDR3 Memory In Case of Audio Streaming

“For us, it hasn’t really been an issue,” says Audiokinectic executive.

Posted By | On 12th, Nov. 2014 Under News | Follow This Author @GamingBoltTweet


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Here is a bit of interesting information. Around the launch of PlayStation 4, Sony were praised for including 8GB of GDDR5 memory in their latest console. On the other hand, Microsoft went with a slower DDR3 memory for the Xbox One. However, it seems that in case of audio streaming the difference does not matter.

“For us, it hasn’t really been an issue. We’re just happy that in both cases, we’re pretty much streaming or loading everything either from memory or from the hard disc, rather than a DVD or Blu-Ray,” said Mike Drummelsmith, Senior Sales Representative of Audiokinectic, a audio middleware [Wwise] which is extensively used in games.

Mike  also spoke about the challenges that developers face in transitioning from last to current gen and how they make matters easier for them.

“What we’ve seen is a great ‘easing’ on that front. The amount of currentgen remasters and cross-generation titles is pretty telling. For our products, teams have found a very easy transition from Gen7 (PS3/X360/Wii) to Gen8 (PS4/ Xbox One/WiiU). They can do more with the tools provided, since they have so much more CPU and memory room to work with. We continue to support the older platforms (we currently support around 15 platforms), so we’ve had to make sure that the transition was as seamless as possible.”

What are your thoughts on this matter? Let us know in the comments section below and stay tuned for our complete interview with Mike Drummelsmith in the coming days.


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    • Counterproductive

      Yeah, and climate change is a myth.

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    • Don Karam

      You actually think all the scientists forgot about the seasons and the other natural fluctuators?

    • No I don’t. That’s why I said to study science.

    • Don Karam

      Do you believe humans are seriously adversely affecting the climate or not?

    • Of course. That’s like saying breathing doesn’t affect the air.

    • demderp

      You deny global warming on top of believing misterxmedia. Says it all really.

    • How many personalities do you have? That’s on top of your noncomprehension.

    • Guest

      Says the guy who is dumb as rocks.

    • Touche

    • Deeboy the nerve of you to question if someone studies science much regarding climate change. 97% of scientists agree on man made climate change. You’re in the 3% camp. Must feel lonely. http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/ Your move punk.

    • Read my other post. 97% of Germany at one point followed a man call Hitler and proceeded to commit genocide of a race of human beings. Do you believe them to be right as well because of your claim of 95% believing and not knowing?

    • Wow….I’m lost for words at your stupidity. Do I really need to explain why what you just said is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand?

    • Like climate change?

    • bardock5151

      The climate is changing yes, can anyone do anything to stop it, no. That requires terraforming and we just aren’t there yet.

    • Counterproductive

      Not the point, and incorrect.

    • bardock5151

      No not incorrect.

    • Guest

      Yes, very incorrect

    • bardock5151

      Nice counter argument. Shows a great understanding of the topic and a well thought out rebuttal. /s

    • Counterproductive

      I’ll give that the consideration it deserves.

    • Guest

      Stupid…. Hope you have kids.

    • bardock5151

      You are beyond stupid if you think I’m wrong. Do you really believe we have the technology to stop a natural cycle wether its accelerated or not?

      Go read up, you might learn something kid.

    • Guest

      See this is the thing about being dumb. Its that you’re to stupid to realize that not everyone else is as dumb as you. Its blatantly obvious that you weren’t talking about talking about a real natural cycle, but rather instead trying to act like what we are seeing is a natural cycle and not actual climate change being caused by us. And in that instance, you re dead wrong. Hope your children (if you have any) enjoy your ignorance, kid.

    • WEL

      well, you might want to take a look at this: http://www.gaminglaptopsjunky.com/gt-750m-gddr5-vs-gt-750m-ddr3-gaming-performance-tested/

      Same card, different memory. One uses DDR3, the other GDDR5 and the gap in performance is considerably big.

    • This article is talking about the ps4 and Xbox. Esram is not included so the gap between the two systems are little to none. Right now. Seems like to me the Xbox has more options when it comes to development.

    • Jecht_Sin

      No, only 530GFLOPS difference, about the equivalent of two X360. Do you fabricate your own reality in the MS laboratories?

    • I haven’t seen that difference. You can’t hide that much difference.

    • Sacha Salvatore Morgese

      Then you should find a good eye doctor, sir

    • I work at an eye doctors office LOL. Obviously you need an appointment.

    • YOUDIEMOFO

      So like without the claimed “ESRAM” there is even more of a gap between them……… Stop trolling man seriously.

      I mean you are on here attempting to argue global warming on top of other nonsense no brained garbage you are spewing.

    • Wow. There’s a lot of stupid people internet. Before man there were a lot of cataclysmic events that shaped tho world we live in. Or do you believe we’ve always had factories and modern pollution? To discount natural climate and just blame everything on man is very idiotic. Back on subject esram is apart of the Xboxs architectural design like it or not it does play a part. PS. I didn’t start the argument about climate change.

    • YOUDIEMOFO

      All I have concluded from reading what you have posted is that you have serious mental disabilities and something going on in your head.

      Maybe the optometrist is not the answer for you.

      I never said you started talking about whatever, but I did say argue. And for one to discount anything man does (most everything) that does negatively effect the earth and say they are not the culprit is insanity.

      All in all the Internet has given people like you the ability to hide from people and to be able to speak their minds, so they do not ever have to face the cold hard truth. You know in Europe they are actually sentencing Trolls that just spit their nonsense all over forums in their little secret, safe, sorry excuse of a life.

      Just to think that you are the smartest person on the Internet….. Hahahahahahaha right.

      Enough said……….

    • LOL. Whose trolling who here? My very first post is absolutely relevant to the article itself. Your first post was to troll me. You still haven’t answered anything I previously stated just a guess on how I live which is way off the mark. I expected that though because of your previously ignorant responses. Sounds like you’re describing yourself actually.

    • YOUDIEMOFO

      Not relevant at all is you pal. And yes my first comment on here was about the article itself, but losers like yourself spouting off nonsense just has to stop.

      Taken literally from your user name “boy” as you acting like a little one……just stay home today and reflect on all the nonsense you have done boy….

    • LOL. You don’t realize how dumb you are. Do you? That’s a shame that you need people like me to point that out to you. You totally didn’t comprehend what I was saying and yet you proceed to troll me and prove everything I said true about you.

    • DizzyZane

      That’s in graphical performance, which requires more bandwidth but isn’t so heavy on latency. For gaming, CPU RAM matters far more due to access times for physics calculation etc.

    • Lacerz

      It’s simply a matter of optimization. With an Xbox One Unity bundle, more time was put into the optimization on the One, even though it still has issues. Once both are patched, they should both hit a consistent 30 fps.

    • Hopefully for you. This is very similar to what happen at launch with the Xbox but of course the Xbox didn’t have their SDK kits ready. Now as the kits are updated more and more there’s definitely a difference in performance.

    • andy

      Sure it does, most launch titles on PS4 all ran at 1080p without fuss. Says alot of what the console is capable of and what we can expect from it i.e. lots more 1080p games, which PS4 owners got so far in 2014.
      The only console that has been CONSISTENTLY disappointing in the “advantages” dept since launch, no since well before launch, is the Xbone.

    • ImOnaDrugCalledSheen

      Shut up Deebag.

    • You mad?

    • YOUDIEMOFO

      You douche……?

    • Just like I thought unintelligent. Thanks for proving my point.

    • Guest

      Yep, SONY PS P O O R!

    • slumdog hundredaire

      Yes. X1 is evil and in league with ISIS.

    • Guest

      Oh please, it has a huge bandwidth advantage, hence why most PS4 games (minus 4) are 1080p whereas the X1 has a serious size issue with eSRAM, hence why so many sub-HD games on the X1 (heck even a few 720p games!). Know your facts before talking so you don’t make yourself look so dumb.

    • Yeah a crystal clear 1080p of washed out colors. You still believing the whole 1080p is better after all the evidence shown online lately that its not? WOW. I guess you really are that stupid.

  • Guest

    NO SH*T! Sure makes that other PS fanboy sound engineer you interviewed earlier look like a r*tard. Hilarious!

    • andy

      “For us, it hasn’t really been an issue.
      We’re just happy that in both cases, we’re pretty much streaming or
      loading everything either from memory or from the hard disc, rather than
      a DVD or Blu-Ray”

      Haha where does he go into intricate detail about GDDR5 not being better at handling audio over DDR3 like that other dev DID? You will just clasp onto to any kind of title of an article at all, won’t you?
      However he IS happy that both consoles came from the start with a mandatory hard drive, like the PS3 then I guess, THE CONSOLE THAT DID 7.1 SURROUND SOUND 8 YEARS AGO.

  • Dhir Shah

    There is a difference between audio streaming and audio rendering.

    For my computer, playing/streaming a flac 24bit 192khz audio file, takes up about 5-10 MBps of bandwidth (minus overhead cost of software and algorithms which consoles don’t have much of).

    These memory chips ddr3 and gddr5 have a bandwidth of 60GBps and 170GBps ish respectively.

    Makes sense.

    Then you have audio rendering which is 3d mapping of sound and depth and what not while playing a game. This takes up a whole bunch of gpu/cpu power
    #1.4

    • d0x360

      None of this article makes sense. Unlike the ps4 the Xbox has a dedictadd Xbox chip that handles all audio. It NEVER touched esram. Never. Never never never.

    • Psionicinversion

      PS4 has TrueAudio which processes audio as well so theyve both got chips just bit different

    • d0x360

      No the ps4 has no dedictaded audio chip. Go look at the ifixit report. It uses the CPU for audio. That’s it.

    • Psionicinversion

      are you sure about that because the TrueAudio DSP cores are fitted into the GPU chip, there not separate?

    • d0x360

      Good lord…it has no dedicated audio chip. Period. The end. No going to argue with you. The Xbox is capable of better audio without question. Its just the way it is. The GPU is the same between both one just has more compute units.

      Good night have fun, read up.

  • JimmyNice

    Has ANYONE been complaining about their audio streaming? I mean does anyone really care? Audio’s good on all. How about improving graphics so they are equally good

    • Salama

      Processing power is needed for audio also. Audio is good yes but the more it needs resources the more it takes away from the graphics and physics.

  • d0x360

    Jesus Christ another one? First gddr5 is bad for CPU tasks. Second thr esram never NEVER touches audio in the Xbox. Just the GPU. The Xbox has a audio chip the ps4 does not. The audio chip uses the ddr3.

    For the love of GOD. Stop asking dumb questions. Whoever your tech guy is needs school and needs it BADLY.

    • demderp

      PS4 has dedicated audio hardware.

    • Salama
    • bardock5151

      PS4 does have an audio chip but I’m pretty sure it’s the standard AMD version. Xbox has the proprietary shape processor and is superior as well.

      I would post a link but all of them are from that point in time when every site and fanboy was waiting for cerny to sit on their face.

    • Guest

      The PS4 has TrueAudio, its built right into the APU. And Shape was mainly for detecting voice for Kinect.

    • bardock5151

      And still it’s a better audio processor.

  • Mike

    Umm. Who gives a sh*t?

  • Starman

    “The PS4 is 50% more powerful” ,how is this possible ? Just look at the games. Oh wait ! ………………………………
    Maybe, I should just listen .

  • HgGamer

    Failstation 4 bahahahahhaha Lmfao priceless

  • DizzyZane

    GDDR5 has no advantages over DDR3. In fact, in many cases, it’s actually worse. Take a look at Linus’s video http://youtu.be/pbgvzVgfoSc .

    GDDR5 is slower and higher latency than DDR3.
    GDDR is higher bandwidth, but useless in the case of keeping things in check.

  • ImOnaDrugCalledSheen

    blah blah blah

  • YOUDIEMOFO

    Well for “audio streaming” like the article speaks of may not matter much, but go ahead and do a comparison of how each responds when doing other things like moving textures and or more serious rendering effects.

    All I’ve read in the comments section, but a few exceptions are all opinions.

    There are many reasons and advantages to using GDDR5 over GDDR3 and that has been proven before.

    And people like “DeeBoy” need to stop hating and do some research. Here’s an article with some easy info to follow, so as to not throw off the ones with fanboy learning curves.
    http://www.goldfries.com/computing/gddr3-vs-gddr5-graphic-card-comparison-see-the-difference-with-the-amd-radeon-hd-7750/

    And I feel that this article should drive even more home as these systems use a unified architecture like these cards have for themselves.

  • asadachi

    Wow, gamingbolt’s staff is full of idiots to let this crap get published. Everybody with a brain knows this and it still doesn’t matter.

  • Thad Vanity

    CLICK BAIT FAILURE.

    This article’s author should confess to a complete lack of professionalism…..

  • Salama
  • Guest

    Who thought it did? Damn Gamingbolt, could you be any dumber? You people are embarrassing yourselves


 

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