Sony: PS4 Pro Using The Term “4K Gaming” Is Not Misleading

It’s all down to a “demonstrable difference” in the experience.

Posted By | On 16th, Sep. 2016 Under News


The PlayStation 4 Pro has met with its fair share of mixed reactions. While the idea of a more powerful PS4 at $399 is appealing, there are criticisms on whether its worth the extra money for non-4K TV owners. This is especially so when you consider that it’s not exactly native 4K resolution – instead, PS4 games are being upscaled to 4K. There are a few exceptions like The Last of Us Remastered which run at native 4K though.

Sony Computer Entertainment president and group CEO Andrew House spoke to Digital Spy and when asked if the majority of PS4 Pro titles would be upscaled or run at native 4K, he stated, “I would say the majority will be upscaled – at least based on the game portfolio I have seen to date.”

On whether this makes the “4K gaming” tagline for the PS4 Pro somewhat misleading, House said, “No, I don’t think so. I think that whatever the term is, it’s a question of whether people see a demonstrable difference in the game experience or not, rather than the term we use to apply to it.

“I think that’s what people are looking for and they’ll make their judgement as to whether that’s working for them or not.”

The PlayStation 4 Pro is out on November 10th 2016.

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  • Troy Marcel

    they’re lying to them selves now.

  • Luke Skywalker

    Very interesting of House to say

  • bardock5151

    Wow, he’s an idiot.

  • Gamez Rule

    PS4 games are being upscaled to 4K. There are a few exceptions like The Last of Us Remastered which *run at native 4K* though.

    If some games are running native 4k then Sony are not misleading.

    • Starman

      STFU, that was the biggest fkn remix I’ve heard all year….You sound like the biggest fanboy of “save the PS4” campaign on the web.

    • Gamez Rule

      Want more salt for your tears, or do you just want toys to throw out your pram again☺

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    • Michael

      No pony. There are no games that will run native 4k so stop the ponying.

    • Gamez Rule

      So wrong. It’s been confirmed that The Last of Us Remastered Will Run Native 4K on PS4 Pro

    • LeveledUpGamer

      This is true. A PS3 game will run in native 4K 2 console cycles later….

      I’m sure JetMoto should also be able to run in 4K as well if Sony made it for the PS4 Pro

    • alee

      No try NBA2k 17 dumbass native 4k and HDR. Don’t even try to say it’s not a AAA game because it damn well is and your in denile and doing damage control for some reason.

    • Gamez Rule

      Here is a list of some confirmed / officially announced PS4 Pro native 4K games with more to come soon:

      The Last Of Us Remastered (Native 4K@30FPS with the better shadows)
      Smite (Native 4K@60FPS)
      The Elder Scroll Online (Native 4K@30FPS)
      The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition Edition (Native 4K@30FPS)
      Mantis Burn Racing (Native 4K@60FPS / Native 4K@30FPS for 4 player split-screen)
      Wheels of Aurelia (Native 4K@60FPS)
      Futuridium EP Deluxe (Native 4K@60FPS)
      Forma.8 (Native 4K@60FPS + 8xMSAA )
      Rez Infinite (Native 4K@60FPS)
      Hustle Kings (Native 4K)
      Thumper (Native 4K)
      NBA 2K17 (Native 4K@60FPS + HDR)
      Bound (Native 4K@60FPS + MSAA x2 upscaled from MSAAx8 in normal gameplay / in VR mode: rendering to 4K internal screen which is then supersampled to 1080P display in PSVR + new effects like volumetric lights + sharper shadows)
      Viking Squad (Native 4K@60FPS)
      Pro Evolution Soccer 2017 (Native 4K@60FPS)

    • LeveledUpGamer

      So can MS say the Xbox One is a 1080p gaming machine?

      If so, why has the last 3 years been nothing but the Xbox One can’t do 1080p from the community and media regardless that more than half the games are native 1080p?

    • Gamez Rule

      Good point..

    • alee

      Big difference between 1800p vs 2160p (with checkerboard) and 720p vs 1080p. The 720p vs 1080p is a bigger visual difference as the higher you get in resolution the harder it is for the eye to perceive unless you get within a foot of the tv but with 720p you could see it from far away, same with 900p but now most xbox games are 1080p or at least 1080p dynamic, which I think would be ok The problem is xbox one lacks true exclusives (not on PC) and they have games that can be played at higher IQ and effects on PC now (xbox anywhere).

    • Mark

      I don’t know Gamez. If u state that u have a 4k gaming machine, but 99% of those games will run below it, and scaled up, that’s more like a 2k resolution machine to me. But I think House is saying hey, the benefits you’ll see is competitive to 4k quality. I feel mixed about it

    • Gamez Rule

      So today I looked at 4k native and up-scaled 4k and the difference was minimal. I just believe that PS4-Pro is going to be a seller for Sony not just for new gamers about to buy a console but also an upgrade to some PS4 gamers.

      If some gamers can be played at 4k native then Sony are not misleading anyone, and even stated that games will be up-scaled too.

    • alee

      Actually is a decent list of games running in native 4k on PS4 Pro, and it keeps growing and will grow for a year before Scorpio even drops.

  • Mr Xrat

    “4K gaming” is playing fast and wild. Stating the benefits of that extra power is more appropriate, I feel. It’ll make the Xgimps more salty when their little Shitpio fails to meets their expectations.

    • LeveledUpGamer

      You sound upset already even before the Scorpio is released….
      Its going to be a very bitter uear for you till the Scorpio is released and only downhill from the moment Scorpio is released

    • alee

      lmao, not really, scorpio will come out after a year of 4k games coming out on PS4. Feel salty while we play in 4k bisnatch. PS yes, there are already lots of 4k games and the one’s that are not quite 4k are so close you cannot see a single difference. If they somehow can show me in person that the Scorpio has better IQ and finally gets some good exclusives then I will get it. I am willing to get it but right now I can play xbox games in 4k on my PC and I don’t see the need for scorpio for me personally.

  • LeveledUpGamer

    Let me get this straight

    For the last 3 years MS had to endure harsh criticism from the gaming media and community because the XBOX ONE upscaled many games to 1080p and because of this MS couldn’t say their game was 1080p without them being attacked….

    Now that we know the PS4 Pro will ALSO not hit a native 4K resolution on the vast majority of games…it’s OK for Sony to say its a 4K resolution implying its Native?

    PS4 Pro will be using the same upscaling technique to hit 4k as Quantum Break used to hit 1080p and it was seriously scrutinized for its method…meanwhile Sony is praised for it?

    This double standard of media bias ignorance is getting out of control.

    Don’t even get me started on how Sony says Ps4 will have HDR and how the media isn’t even questioning how its posssible for Sony to pull this off when an HDMI 2.0 is REQUIRED when the PS4 only has an HDMI 1.4.

    • Mark

      I think it may be because Pro will be the most powerful system to date, people may just want what’s most powerful now. However I do feel u, Xbox was the 720p or 900p box lol. But in fairness I do see alot of people giving Sony sh*t for their specs choice in the Pro..

    • LeveledUpGamer

      For sure the Pro will be the most powerful console at the time of release but Sony and the media are trying to mislead the consumers. Even Crystal Dynamics called out Sony for saying they are misleading by saying rise of the tomb raider will be 4k.

      Sony are also misleading consumers about HDR.

      You’re right about the PS Pro and consumers upset about the specs. It won’t make any PS 4 game look that much better. Its ment as a true low end VR machine.

    • Gamez Rule

      “Crystal Dynamics called out Sony for saying they are misleading by saying rise of the tomb raider will be 4k”

      When did that happen? I can’t see anything about that. Have you got link at all?


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