Will Developers Actually “Fully” Utilize The Xbox One Scorpio’s Extra Power?

Will the Scorpio’s additional power simply go to waste?

Posted By | On 18th, Mar. 2017 Under Article, Editorials | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


Later this year, Microsoft is going to release the Xbox One Scorpio- at this point, we know that it’s not a next generation system, but rather a mid cycle upgrade for the Xbox One. But what an upgrade it is! With a 6TFLOPs GPU, the Scorpio promises to be the most powerful home console ever made- in fact, the chasm between it and the Xbox One is massive, and all the extra and additional power that it has should theoretically enable some great, enhanced and improved games.

That is, of course, assuming that developers actually fully use that extra power. The question is- will they? Do we have any reason to believe that developers will use the additional resources and hardware power that the Xbox Scorpio presents them with? Troublingly enough, past console cycles so far suggest the contrary- that they won’t actually tap into the Scorpio’s additional power.

We have precedence favoring this stance- consider, for instance, the original Xbox and the Gamecube. Both systems were far more capable of the PlayStation 2, with more power and resources that could have led to a marked improvement in games on them over PS2 games. Unfortunately, most developers chose to target the PS2 as the base common denominator, and Xbox and Gamecube versions of games got few meaningful embellishments, if any at all. The additional power for Gamecube and especially Xbox was almost never put to any meaningful good use- very few games were made that highlighted that extra power, with only cursory support for the systems’ additional capabilities for most titles. Developers, working against escalated production budgets and crunch deadlines, simply didn’t have the luxury of tapping into the unique hardware nuances of each system. They had to make do with simply ensuring that their games ran on each system. Add to this the simple fact that the PS2’s install base dwarfed the install base of the Xbox and Gamecube put together, and there was even less financial incentive for them to bother.

"The additional power for Xbox was almost never put to any meaningful good use- very few games were made that highlighted that extra power, with only cursory support for the system’s additional capabilities for most titles. Developers, working against escalated production budgets and crunch deadlines, simply didn’t have the luxury of tapping into the unique hardware nuances of each system."

In today’s day and age, production budgets are the most inflated they have ever been, and game development is centered around the assumption of homogenized hardware and scalable development pipelines. The Xbox Scorpio, launching as a far more powerful system four years after the PS4 (and the Xbox One itself), therefore faces the same problem that the Xbox and Gamecube did, but exacerbated multifold. Developers have even less reason now to optimize their games for each individual hardware SKU than ever before – just look at shoddy multiplatform games for proof – and the Scorpio is launching against not just the PS4, which by the time it launches will assuredly be over 60 million units sold worldwide, but also the base Xbox One, which is nearing 30 million units sold.

More proof of this mentality holding true in the current day and age can be found in the fact that the PS4 Pro has not received much in the way of meaningful support from most publishers. While the PS4 Pro is a far more conservative upgrade over the base PS4 relative to the Scorpio, it is still a substantial upgrade- and yet, not every publisher has done anything with it that approaches fully utilizing its hardware. This is in spite of Sony apparently mandating PS4 Pro support, and in spite of optimizations for PS4 Pro not taking that much time or money- but the most we get are some half hearted upscaled visual modes (though there are some exceptions like Nioh). Why is this so? Because the PS4 Pro’s install base relative to the PS4 and Xbox One is tiny- there is no incentive for publishers to support it beyond the bare minimum.

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"Given Microsoft’s APIs and UWP framework, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suppose that scaling Xbox One games up to Scorpio is going to be remarkably easy. This means that we should see most games supporting Scorpio- at least cursorily. Owing to the Scorpio’s deep resources, cursory support here could even mean games being rendered in 4K natively. On the other hand, that may be the extent of it- you’ll get your exact same games, but prettier, and that’s all."

Given all this, the chances of third party developers actually making complete and full use of the Scorpio seem slim- and Microsoft itself isn’t helping matters here, either. Its diktat that all Scorpio games have to run on standard Xbox One systems too means that developers now have to strive to maintain parity- which means that even if some developer were to choose to tap into the Scorpio’s considerable resources, maybe for creative reasons, willingly taking a financial hit- they can’t. Microsoft’s mandate ensures that all games need to be made with the Xbox One as a base, which in turn means that outside of maybe running in 4K, all of that extra power on the Scorpio goes to waste. Of course Microsoft will be pushing the console with the help of its 1st party studios and games but outside of that, I doubt many third party devs will be completely using the Scorpio’s specs unless Microsoft gets third party exclusivity.

Where, then, does this leave the Scorpio? Given Microsoft’s APIs and UWP framework, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suppose that scaling Xbox One games up to Scorpio is going to be remarkably easy. This means that we should see most games supporting Scorpio- at least cursorily. Owing to the Scorpio’s deep resources, cursory support here could even mean games being rendered in 4K natively. On the other hand, that may be the extent of it- you’ll get your exact same games, but with better image quality and may be better perfofmance, and that’s all. Given just how much power and resources the Scorpio has, that will honestly be a bit of a shame- the Scorpio’s power could have been used to make games simply not possible on the PS4 or Xbox One. I hope I am wrong and I would love it if Scorpio’s power is completely utilized but the circumstances and current market and development trends due to incremental hardware, however, shall conspire to ensure that that is not the case.

Note: The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of, and should not be attributed to, GamingBolt as an organization.


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    Who cares? The Shitbox brand is since 2013 dead. the Focus of hardcore gamers at the moment is Vega, GTX 1080 TI, Ryzen, PS4 exclusives and more nintendo games. Who needs that obsolete Flopio with no exclusives? liars like Greenberg want to sell that dogshit as “TRUE 4K”. Digital Foundry will expose this fraud with the term “sparse rendering” can’t wait.

    • Pazz

      another fake account of Mr XIdiot

    • Deadbox One

      I’m not Xrat you moron! Have you noticed the difference between my messages and his?

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      I don’t see differences, the same type of idiot comments

    • Deadbox One

      you’re blind.

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      And Xbox has no games.

    • Ralf

      95% games is multiplatform titles. X1 dont have games??. You are IDIOT.

    • Deadbox One

      cry more.

    • Reading your name, I can see that you live a sad, depressing life. Do you ever go outside or do you just sit on the internet and hate on a video game console? Loser.

    • quantum

      Xrat confirmed, and busted again.

    • Davey681

      Yup
      This fruitcake is xbot/revolver ocelot/X-ray. His life is nothing other than hating anything Xbox in these articles.
      Poor mental case.

    • Mr Xrat

      You wish. I suppose you need to tell yourself that not everyone hates you though.

    • Mark

      Lol

    • Davey681

      http://www.pcworld.com/article/3180626/gaming/exclusive-no-more-playstation-4-games-are-coming-to-the-pc-via-playstation-now.html
      -Native 4k vs an upscaling gimmick as low as 720p
      -Back compat vs no back compat
      -Game downloading service (XB game pass) vs nothing
      -EA access/early game access vs nothing
      -Proper mod support vs gimped support
      -1080p TV supersampling and shader model 6 upgrade vs nothing
      -Shader model 6 upgrade rollout to Xbox one vs nothing
      -4k blu ray vs nothing
      -4k 60fps game capture and streaming vs 1080p
      -Coop and multiplayer gems vs 3rd person single player hack n slash bores with no replay value.
      You seem mad peasant.

    • MickaelSuarez

      Can we purchase PlayStation exclusive day 1 on PC? I don’t think so…
      Paying $20/month for old games has the same interest level than a Scorpio without any exclusive

      “-Native 4k vs an upscaling gimmick as low as 720p”
      Native 4k with 6Tflops while you told us a console with 4.2Tflops deliver 720p…

      “-Back compat vs no back compat”
      PC…

      “-Proper mod support vs gimped support”
      PC vs console…

    • Luke Skywalker

      I wouldn’t need to purchase playstation exclusives day 1 on PC. playstation exclusives are mostly single player games so whenever they are available is fine. there’s no need to purchase a playstation console, at least not for me.

    • MickaelSuarez

      If PS exclusive become available 2-3 years after their release, it won’t have any significant impact on console sales, not like Xbox Play Anywhere.

    • Luke Skywalker

      It doesn’t matter to me about an impact on console sales, the fact is that I was planning on buying a one but now I’m not anymore because the few games I would have played on the ps4 is and most likely will be on their psnow service which I will play from my PC.

      I’m not sure what the impact on console sales has to do with anything or why you’re trying to use that as some sort of argument.

    • Mark

      Lol. Because it’s a war for fanboys bro. That’s how the elite like it. Blue vs red, and here it’s blue Playstation vs black Xbox. How people show up on this forum high on their horse bashing a dam console, and praising another like they’re getting dividends monthly from stock, is retarded and pathetic for grown men to do

    • Gamez Rule

      But still allows money for Sony as well as more SEN accounts, so a win for Sony at the end of the day.

    • Mark

      Exactly. It keeps money flowing in….they could care less about this fanboy stuff.

    • Mark

      Hunh? VEGA and Ryzen may be in Scorpio, and PS4 exclusives are gonna be streamed to PC.

  • Didier

    I think it’s gonna be like PC, if you have a powerful PC and VGA card you can push all the visual settings to the maximum and enjoy enhanced graphics, screen resolution and frame rate

    • I agree completely. This article doesn’t take into account how UWP works and they will be simply making their PC versions available on the Xbox platforms as well.

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    • Paul Savoie

      Yes he did, in the last paragraph.

    • Mentioning it briefly as he did in the end and taking it into account are two completely different things IMO. He stands by his thought that it would only be a cursory upgrade here and there and it’s apparent he has not idea how UWP actually works. Which is what I was eluding to when I said “doesn’t take into account how UWP works”

  • kee1haul

    There is no comparison between original xbox and scorpio. It couldn’t be easier to make scalable games these days.

  • The truth-ier

    This guy post the worst articles.
    So a system is not like a glass of water, you just dont use it all, or use half of it…sigh, he may even have some of you uneducated nerds thinking this.
    I will use the playstation 4 as an example, Do you think every game..or even 90% of the games look as good, or play as good as horizon? do you think a developer is really going to want there game to drop below 30 frames, to not be able to hold 1080p? well both happen often on x1 and ps4, so its not necessarily who has or is gonna use the power….. this may shock you, its what dev team has the budget, time, ENGINE and SKILLS to make a great game.
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      So you don’t agree with him?

  • Gamez Rule

    Lager install base always beats power, more support with games also beats power, history shows that much.

    • kma99

      Scorpio runnjng pc ports not upscaling. Sorry to burst your bubble

    • Gamez Rule

      “Scorpio runnjng pc ports not upscaling” From reading that people might as well stay with PC then☺ Has Scorpio even got any games?

      So Xbone has 720p games, and lots of them, so how much power will it take to upscale Xbone’s 720p games to 4k? Is that taking power more than what Scorpio supplies?

    • Living While Alive

      Yes, it will.

      Xbox has 900p to 1080p games as well.

      Don’t know where you got 720p from.

      With that knowledge. Does PS4 have any games?

      Cause you kno’, $20 a month on my PC grants me access to PS4 games.

      And seeing how, there only 2 games I want to play(Drake, HZD), I can sell my PS4.

      Don’t use the crap anyway, can’t even play 4K Blu-ray on my 4k projector!

    • Gamez Rule

      “4.5x boost to compute power suggests that 1080p engines will scale nicely to 4K on Scorpio, but 900p games will need a 5.76x increase in pixel-count- to become 4k”, so 720p will need even more compute power than shown above within Scorpio.

      Call of Duty: Ghosts runs at 720p on Xbone as does Star Wars: Battlefront so please don’t make out you don’t know where I got 720p from.

      Yes PS4 does have games, and more than Xbone for that matter, and not all PS4 games are on PS-Now or made available to PC users ☺

    • Luke Skywalker

      actually Microsoft found that it only needed 3.5x (not 4.5x) to scale a 1080p game to 4k (therefore you’re quote above doesn’t apply).

      when it comes to ps4 games on psnow, I can wait until the ones I want to play are available. I mean, it’s not like those games are going to change at all, after all they’re mostly if not all single player games so I don’t have to worry about missing out on multiplayer.

    • Gamez Rule

      900p games will need a 5.76x increase in pixel-count- to become 4k”, & 720p will need even more compute power than shown for 900p games, so Scorpio needs more compute power than what Scorpio holds to make 720p games native 4k” Yes or no?

    • Luke Skywalker

      The answer: a big NO.

      It is true that going from 900p to 4k is a 5.76x increase in pixels but that does NOT mean it needs 5.76x increase in power to get there.

    • Gamez Rule

      Where I posted “so Scorpio needs more compute power than what Scorpio holds to make 720p games native 4k” Yes or no?”

      You believe the answer is *a big NO*, how did you come up with that then?

    • Living While Alive

      I don’t want or need all PS4 games most of which are Single player games.

      I guess that’s why greatness still awaits and there’s 51 million active Xbox Live gamers a month vs 22 million active PS4 gamers a month.

      Shows who’s actually “playing” games.

      The only game I want to play is Drake uncharted that’s it.

      You can keep ICO, Little big planet, Grab Turismo, God of war, KillZone, Ratchet and Clank along with the majority of the crappy indie games PS4 has.

      Quality over quantity!

      As Xbox I still get Kingdom Hearts, BlazBlue, MGS, FF, GTA and most of the once AAA franchise PlayStation exclusives.

      That’s why there’s more gamers a month playing on Xbox than PlayStation, because of multiplayer and multi-platform games.

      Not single- player exclusives!

    • Gamez Rule

      That’s nice, but still has nothing to do with the post I made that you just replied too☺ I’ve shown some 720p games on Xbone to you & that PS4 does have more games than Xbone, as well as not all PS4 games are on PS-Now or made available to PC users, and you just come out with the above☺.

      But still you failed to answer…..”900p games will need a 5.76x increase in pixel-count- to become 4k”, so 720p will need even more compute power to become native 4k than shown above within Scorpio” Correct?

      As for your ” 51 million active Xbox Live gamers a month” here is the REAL deal… “Microsoft said there were 48 million active Xbox Live users, up from 39 million in the previous quarter” *FY2016 Q2 Earnings* ( both free and paid accounts )

      Sony last year ( April 2016 ) stated they had over 60m PlayStation active users across all platforms. So still more than MS, as is the console sales, more SEN accounts, more games, more support, etc.

      http://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-live-now-boasts-48-million-active-users-39-million-last-quarter

      https://www.gamespot.com/articles/heres-how-many-ps-plus-subscribers-there-are/1100-6441361/

    • Luke Skywalker

      yeah, I was going to buy a ps4, after scorpio but now I don’t need to buy one anymore. $20, stream for a month to play the few games not available on the scorpio.

    • Riggybro

      You could use the PS4 money plus the Scorpio money plus the subscription costs plus the overpriced games costs to get yourself a pretty amazing PC rig then (much better than Scorpio).

      Do you like backwards compatibility?
      Do you like emulators for everything up until to around the 360? etc..

      You would definitely be better off getting the PC + the $20 PS streaming then. Much better deal for someone in the position you outlined above.

    • Hvd

      not everyone wants to build a pc plus xbox scorpio will be running 4k native games way cheaper than any 4k pc.

    • Riggybro

      Correct. Not everyone doesn’t want to build a PC too.

      What price is the Scorpio incidentally?

    • Hvd

      xbox keeps saying its a premium console for the hard core gamers.they are telling you it wont be cheap.im guessing $500-$600 which is still way cheaper then a real 4k/60fps pc thats still up in the $4000-$5000 range.

    • Riggybro

      Not sure what country you live in but where I live the prices are extremely inflated yet you can still build a gtx 1080 ti PC for waaaaaaay less than $4000-$5000 (USD$)

      That’s a 4K 60 fps PC not an “Xbox 4K 60 fps” too.

    • Hvd

      the titan x pascal is the only card that can do 4k/60fps and its right now $1500 and if you dont want to bottleneck that you needs the i7 3770k which is $1000 so come again?

      xbox scoprio will run some games 4k/60fps just wait and see.

    • Gamez Rule

      “titan x pascal is the only card that can do 4k/60fps”

      Nope the GTX 1080 Ti which cost about half the price of the titan x pascal can also do 4k/60fps and even Nvidia says we’re looking at a 35 per cent increase in performance.

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-review

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-gtx-1080-ti-finally-revealed

    • Hvd

      lol you believe nvidia…lmao

    • Riggybro

      I agree Scorpio will run some games at 4K/60 fps. Some games…

    • Gamez Rule

      100% agreed

    • Luke Skywalker

      I certainly wouldn’t want to use a $750 PC to play games and I definitely wouldn’t call that a “rig”.
      I don’t know what “cheaper” games you are referring to.
      take black ops 3 for example, the regular version is $60 on steam but it’s the Gold Edition on xbox for $60.
      UM vs C 3 is the same price on both stores. PC does not have cheaper games, that was years ago.

      I rather play on console for the ease and convenience plus games have a longer period of activity and a stronger player base, plus there’s way less cheaters plus the convenience and ability to block those cheaters etc.
      so I rather console for any serious type of gaming.

      I like backwards compatibility, but right now I believe i’m past the emulator phase.

      No, I would definitely not be better off getting a $750 PC and it’s definitely not a better deal for me.

      I believe you’d be best to drop the ridiculous rhetoric.

    • Riggybro

      Exactly the response I was expecting.

    • Luke Skywalker

      then you do not have any valid points or you’re just lying because you have nothing to come up with

    • Riggybro

      Nope. Just the response I was expecting.

    • Mark

      “There’s waay less cheaters”….and that’s HUGE!

    • Mark

      Once PC gets PS Now going, dam it’s gonna be gamers’ heaven! I still think console people are intimidated by it tho, and most will stay in their comfort zone ahaha

    • Gamez Rule

      The PS4-PS-Now games are coming in.. Truth is the games from PS-Now will not be played as good quality as the console versions, and I’m sure they will stream at 720p even though the games are 1080p on PS4. So why would console people be intimidated by it?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqMVpNSmQko

    • Mark

      Nah I meant PC will be gaming heaven/nirvana. And although PC is lookin like the place to be soon, console gamers are still intimidated by going full on PC

    • Mr Xrat

      My favorite thing I’ve seen Xgimp morons do is compare streaming 2+ year old games over the Internet to MS putting all its new games on PC day one because you losers don’t buy them.

    • kma99

      How much power will thr pro need to get nioh tp run 60 fps without settling for 720p lol

    • Gamez Rule

      PS4-Pro cannot run Nioh at 60fps without hitting 720p in rare instances due to the adaptive resolution which helps keep frame-rates high ( which is good news ) while in action mode. But PS4-Pro can run at 30 fps without dropping below 1440p while in Movie Mode☺

      So after knowing the in’s & out’s of Nioh, ( which at least is a true exclusive something this year is missing from Xbone ) it does look like that Scorpio may not have the power needed to upscale Xbone’s 720p games like Star Wars: Battlefront.

    • kma99

      Games not exclusive. Psnow is on pc so anyone who waits long enough can plat it. Still doesn’t excuse the gimpstation pro running sub hd just to do 60 frames. That’s exclusive for that beast of a machine lol.

    • Gamez Rule

      So is Nioh on PS-Now is it? Or how about Horizon: Zero Dawn? But at least PC gamers can enjoy *some* Sony exclusives.

      Most of the Xbone console exclusives are on PC too, and not just Windows 10, ( Quantum Break ) as an example is also on Steam, but getting back to the PS4-Pro, Sony has not stated “TRUE 4K Gaming” with their console “without sacrificing performance” like MS are doing with Scorpio, while knowing that 720p games on Xbone cannot be scaled up to native 4k☺

    • kma99

      Of course it is. Just wait a little while and ur good. No need to buy a ps4 if u don’t already have one

    • LifeOnMars

      That’s one good thing that Xboners are good at WAITING , enjoy the wait. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b42ed47a7744762425904e8399bef43ad30f99b0d539b75e1383ccdfe7628007.png

    • Gamez Rule

      I really believe that P-Scorpio is not able to have all games running native 4k, even when MS stated “TRUE 4K Gaming” I believe that MS will have no options but do what Sony has to do with PS4-Pro to get games higher resolutions etc.

      Time will tell?

    • Gamez Rule

      “Of course it is” = Nope as Nioh is not on PC and in fact there’s still a petition is running for the game trying to make it on PC.

      Anyone expecting to be able to play some of the new recently released PS4 games on the PlayStation Now service could be in for some disappointment.

      https://www.change.org/p/koei-tecmo-bring-nioh-to-pc

    • Luke Skywalker

      I have no problem in waiting until they’re available. as I’ve said before they are single player games and they don’t change once released so no disappointment here.

    • Gamez Rule

      Well that’s good news as that means more people get to play some current gen games only possible on PS4 as well as last gen games only possible on PS3 and that brings in more SEN accounts as well as more money for Sony while keeping PC gamers happy who are willing to pay monthly subs to play the games Sony place on PS-Now.

      But I would still rather play games like Horizon: Zero Dawn on a PS4-Pro as at the moment there’s no way you’ll get the quality via streaming that the console offers. But each to their own I guess.

    • Mark

      True

    • Ralf

      Better CPU.

    • Gamez Rule

      Ark Survival Evolved on Xbone featuring a sub-720p resolution (1088×612 or somewhere in the region ) after being updated while frame dropping to 08.0, and you pull PS4-Pro up for running a game at 720p at 60fps☺

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1f68199c958bbcca4e3d1b5d925e11b15316e92a1f39acb408686e61886eb9a0.jpg

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8efFCoxzmI

    • kma99

      Sooooo? Ps pro 4x more powerful but only mustars 720 on nioh. Thats pathetic.

    • Gamez Rule

      No. It musters more than 720p, but you just don’t want to know the truth☺ Fact is on Movie mode it doesn’t drop below 1440p, but on action mode it has hit 720p while keep frames at 60fps which believe that or not is the correct thing to do in that gameplay mode while using adaptive resolution. That’s better than keeping high resolutions and dropping frame-rates☺

    • kma99

      720 deal with it

    • Gamez Rule

      I don’t play on action mode, I play on movie mode without dropping below 1440p, so there is nothing to deal with☺

    • kma99

      U play ps4 then you’re not playing that lol. Go ahead and brag about your all powerful pc now lol. 720p 60 fps deal with it

    • Gamez Rule

      I use PS4-Pro while playing PS4 games☺ Like I use Xbone WHEN MS release games☺

    • kma99

      Lol you want a movie experience so u settle 30 frames lol. Too funny. When ps4 cant do it tou settle for lesser but when xbox cant u come with insults. Good double standard

    • Gamez Rule

      I’m playing Nioh on movie mode that doesn’t drop below 1440p so far from double standards as the truth is the game allows me choices on which mode I play which is great for the console gamer…Well PS4 pro console users that is☺

    • kma99

      Lol. If u u could play it at 60 that high u would. Stop the damage control lol.

    • Gamez Rule

      There is no damage control as I can play is at 60fps and yes that’s 720p and above in action mode, but I liked the movie mode better because movie mode with a 4k TV looks a lot better than action mode. Yes 60fps feels smoother than 30fps, but like I said I have choices on what mode I choose☺

      The only damage control is coming from you when trying to make out that when a game drops resolution to keep frame-rates high & smooth it’s pathetic when in fact is good for the gamer☺

    • kma99

      Lol u call that choices lol. Of course cause sony said that’s your only choice

    • Gamez Rule

      Yes it’s choices, and allows gamers to choose what they like best, know you may not like that but it is what it is or are you going to try and damage control that too☺

    • kma99

      I use ps4, pc, xbox and switch. I like to game not play favorites

    • Gamez Rule

      Yeah ok☺ After all the posts you made about Nioh running at 720p and how that’s pathetic I believe you judge all games instead of playing them for what they offer☺

    • kma99

      What does me saying that have to do with what i play? I will say anything to trigger you fanboys. This has never been about sony or ms. Its about you idiots acting like kids over video games.

    • Gamez Rule

      Yeah good cover story, it’s always been about MS and Sony within your posts, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but to deny that it’s nothing to do with MS or Sony is laughable at best. But carry on with the posts as it is amusing☺

    • kma99

      I dont need a cover story. Its entertaining to piss you clowns off. You will cry, spin and lie about anything.

    • Gamez Rule

      Oh, your posts are entertaining we all know that☺

    • kma99

      No they piss you off because i dont follow behind you mindless puppets

    • Gamez Rule

      You haven’t pi*ssed me off with all your damage control, in fact I look forward to the posts☺ All you’ve done is shown how pathetic you can be when calling people puppets… I mean who calls people puppets LMAO!…Oh yeah, you☺☺☺

      But getting back to the article Scorpio will not be used fully by all devs. Not while Sony has the user base this gen.

    • kma99

      You are a puppet you damage controlling puppet. Mr. I play my games like a movie because it looks better than a blurry 720p. Anytime anything nice is said about ms you show up with something negative. You sony puppets believe the sun rises and sets around the ps4.

    • Gamez Rule

      And out comes the inner child from within you I see☺ I play Nioh on the game option called *Movie Mode* as it offers better fidelity than the *action mode* and IF you had a PS4 or that game you would understand the choices☺

      And if stating “Scorpio will not be used fully by all devs. Not while Sony has the user base this gen” is posting something negative about MS so be it as it’s what I believe as the same thing is also taking place on PS4-Pro. Maybe that’s making Sony look negative, but it’s true☺

    • kma99

      My parents always said to talk to a kid just like thr kids they arr. Why waste a good conversation on a narrow minded playtard?
      If a developer cares about his game or thr consumers he would utilize what he has to work with. Do i expect develops to half @ss it? Of course jist likr team ninja did with nioh.

    • Gamez Rule

      See there we have it …”Do i expect develops to half @ss it? Of course jist likr team ninja did with nioh.”….

      The devs done good with Nioh by keeping frame-rates up by using adaptive resolution to lower resolution for smooth framerates while playing in action mode. That’s better than keeping high resolutions and dropping frame-rates, yet you still like to damage control devs for making the right choice☺ Classic.

    • kma99

      4.2 tf in a machine and they can only muster 720 resolution is a fail. If ms can get 1080 on gears at 60 then they shouldn’t have had any issues with it with the pro. Here u go defending that bs as usual

    • Gamez Rule

      “If ms can get 1080 on gears at 60 then they shouldn’t have had any issues with it with the pro”

      “On Xbox One, the game presents a full 1080p resolution for most of the experience while using an adaptive pixel count on the horizontal axis in order to counteract GPU spikes. While playing the campaign or engaging with the game’s horde mode *both of which operates at 30 frames per second* you can expect to see full 1080p more than 94 per cent of the time.”

      As you can see Gears is not running at 60fps on campaign or horde, and doesn’t stay at 1080p all the time. The game is running 30 fps until you go “multiplayer mode, however, the framerate is bumped up to 60fps resulting in more noticeable drops in clarity as the action heats up”

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-gears-of-war-4-face-off

      So Gears 4 when running at 60fps drops to 51 fps with some tearing which also shows nothing is perfect. And Gears 4 is also using adaptive resolution with drops resolution to help frame-rates just like Noih. So your point trying to be made about Gears & console power is void as gears drops frames, has tearing and doesn’t stay at full resolution.

    • kma99

      And your point? Still no excuse for nioh running at 720. Still making excuses.

    • Mark

      Eh Gamez, u got a list of how many 720p games are on X1? I think that’s misinfo man. It can’t be “lots”. Lol

    • Gamez Rule

      “So Xbone has 720p games, and lots of them”

      Here’s a quick 10 games, but a search should find more☺

      BF4
      COD:Ghosts
      DR 3
      Golf Club
      Killer Instinct S1
      Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
      Star Wars BF
      Titanfall 2
      Quantum Break
      PES 2015

    • Mark

      That’s not alot. Even if u compile them together, it won’t be alot man. It’s very likely less than 5%. I saw a list not too long ago. By far most games are 900p and 1080p, some dynamic res. Just saying that 720p games isn’t alot. It’s by far the exception. So when u say alot, I feel like ur pushing a certain narrative. Ur a cool dude tho not bashing, but that just isn’t true bro

    • Gamez Rule

      I only named 10, but there’s more out there which is a lot when compared to how many PS4 has on offer this gen so yes I am correct in what I posted above.

      Truth is that 720p list above also shows that it’s not only older games but new games running at 720p. So like posted … “How much power will it take to allow Xbone’s 720p games to native 4k? Is that taking power more than what Scorpio supplies?”

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    • Mark

      To be fair we’ve gotta wait for their e3, since Microsoft doesn’t host their own events like Sony. 3 more months

    • Gamez Rule

      Oh come on Mark, we are already near the end of March and nothing is out there for xbone gamers when compared to what Sony are offering, so how much longer do Xbone users have to wait for games while Sony users have empty wallets.

    • Mark

      Well Sony historically drops most games 1Q-2ndQ, Microsoft drops second half. We’re talking Sea of Thieves, Decay 2, Forza 7, Crackdown, and I’ve heard reboot Voodoo Vince and others

    • Gamez Rule

      All coming on PC windows 10 yes? And nothing as on now yes?

      “How much longer do Xbone users have to wait for games” Truth is where are all the exclusive games that Albert Penello: mentioned. “We have a great exclusive games lineup”? Still waiting, and to be honest my son and I are feed up with Forza’s☺

  • Davey681

    “4k 60fps game capture and streaming” means the thing runs games at 4k 60fps. Not rocket science. In addition to shader model 6 upgrade on Scorpio and Xbox one.
    Means PlayStation textures will be the worst in gaming. Looks like MS readying to drop the hammer on peasantation nation.

    • MickaelSuarez

      “the thing runs games at 4k 60fps. Not rocket science.”
      4k 60fps with 6Tflops while you told us a console with 4.2Tflops deliver 720p…
      Keep dreamin’

    • Mark

      Dude 4k60fps game capture is nuts! When Microsoft said “true 4k”, they put real effort into making that a legit claim; 4K Bluray, 4K games, and 4K capture and streaming. Dam. I’m gonna be getting a nice 4k 120 hz tv this fall for Scorpio, and all of those 4k features will be used frequently!

    • Gamez Rule

      A good TV I use for gaming is the SUHD Samsung KS-8000, cheap too.

    • Mark

      U got the KS-8000? Wow. This dude gaming in 4k while I’m still dreamin bout it lol. Nah but I hear your points bro, and respect them, we just disagree, but regardless every platform is doing great things for their respective fans this yr, s’all it’s actually about

    • Gamez Rule

      I wasn’t interested in 4k gaming using a TV until low input lag took place and the Samsung KS-models run at 21ms on game mode which is ok. Also with those TV’s even if HDR isn’t supported via movies or games you can select the TV’s HDR mode and enjoy☺

  • Riggybro

    Console hardware has become more uniform (becoming closer to a cheap AMD PC with APU in a box) since then. It would have been a massive headache to develop for a weirdo PS2 architecture then try and get that running on weirdo GameCube architecture (probably for another debate but – isn’t it getting a bit boring/predictable if both companies buy everything from the same supplier? I feel like the consumer is being shafted a bit)

    Yes. They can possibly scale a bit more like PC settings these days.

    Not to burst anyone’s X-bubble but factoring in a most likely cheapy CPU it is enlightening to see what an average 6TF GPU with a budget CPU gets you these days at 4K resolution.

    • Sp4ctr0

      This will be like changing GPU in PC. For example from GTX 570 to GTX 1070:

      GTX 570 TI – 1.35 TFLOPS
      GTX 1070 – 6.0 TFLOPS

      Xbox One – 1.35 TFLOPS
      Xbox Scorpio – 6.0 TFLOPS

      All PC games work on both GTX 570 and GTX 1070. Level of details is different but core gameplay work on both PC cards.

    • Learned Handgun

      I really don’t know why this is not obvious to some people.

  • GtR35olution

    Xbox fans should do themselves a favor and just end their own misery.

    • What misery? You fanboys are pathetic.

    • Troy Marcel

      How about you delete your account for advocating suicide. You’re a moron

    • EverybodyHatesDoug

      LOL. Says the Australian creep who finally decided to put a shirt on.

    • Troy Marcel

      I don’t hide my identity like you

    • EverybodyHatesDoug

      You should. You really should. You’re pretty ugly.

  • Hvd

    yep its called uwp

  • Mr Xrat

    Nope. Same with the Pro.

    If you really want 4K powaaaaaaah, build a rig or wait three more years for next gen.

  • Mavericks

    See how things work on the gaming press. Sony releases a powerful though still half baked machine regarding software tools, the press lightly criticizes Sony. Nintendo releases a underpowered, mediocre home console that happens to be a portable gaming machine that runs out of power in 2:30 and it’s heavily capped in the mentioned mode and “Nintendo is back!”. My favorite: “Switch has a lot of potential”.

    Microsoft announces a 6 Teraflops machine, that will probably cost something like $400-450 and we get negative posts like this one from Pramath ALL THE TIME. The thing wasn’t released yet and it’s already getting bad press and god only knows why. On the other side, we already have Switch on the market, it’s a underpowered gaming machine with A LOT OF PROBLEMS and the press reviews it in a subjunctive mood with abstract good things that the platform simply lacks like it isn’t on the market already, yet we get this kind of article.

    • Davey681

      The gaming media has made a complete mockery of itself…75% if the stuff is biased and written by fanboy journalists, and most often pro Sony and anti Xbox. It’s actually funny at this point as most normal people already are well aware of this and just ignore the gaming media all together.

    • Mavericks

      I was thinking about it other day, the fanboyism on the press. I had the conclusion that the majority of people working on the press right now have something like 26-35. They started playing with SNES and they have what we call memory affection, or affective memory if you like. There are some people that started with PS and PS2, they’re biased to Sony.

      X360 dominated the US market in a very good amount of time but it’s still recent the past gen. When those gamers start to get their jobs in the gaming press, the same effect will happen.


 

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