Xbox One Dev Discusses Solutions for Backwards Compatibility With Cloud, Advises Against Early Consoles From Target

What are some solutions for bringing Xbox 360 games to the Xbox One? Find out here.

Posted By | On 11th, Nov. 2013 Under News


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Microsoft’s lead for planning on the Xbox One Albert Penello recently talked about how using the Cloud for backwards compatibility to allow for streaming Xbox 360 games on the Xbox One would be difficult. A confirmed Xbox One dev discussed the problem and suggested different solutions for the same. Of course, he also highlights the issues that each of these methods presents.

“This really is quite a difficult problem to solve. I can give a little insight of two ways I know of to implement backward compatibility for current gen and past gen gaming consoles (PS1, PS2, PS3, Xbox, Xbox 360).

“The first method involves building server farms of gaming consoles. For Microsoft, this would mean linking up racks and racks of Xbox 360s. Whenever a user requests a game, content would be generated by a console, then streamed. The bulk of the cost of this approach would be the cost of obtaining and setting up these consoles. In addition, maintenance cost of infrastructure that streams content via the internet needs to be accounted for. The upside is we already have all the hardware we need, the PS3 and 360 are released products.

“A second method would be emulation. The benefit of this is scalability. Several instances of a console could be emulated per server. This is possible and already achieved for older generation consoles such as PS1, PS2, and the original Xbox. A complete and working PS3 or Xbox 360 emulator is more or less impossible given the current state of technology. The overall consensus on when we would have the processing power to emulate a Cell processor or the 360’s PowerPC triple core processor is about ten years.

“The second approach will most likely be used for older generation games and the first method as a viable solution for PS3 and Xbox 360 games. However, even if these methods are technologically feasible, there are still many issues to solve. An obvious one is latency. There exists several sources of latency, the speed at which content can be generated (quality of infrastructure), the speed at which content can be received (your internet speed), as well as lag due to controller inputs, TVs, etc….

“Assume we are able to reduce latency to the point where games are playable and users can see no visible lag, how many clients can we serve concurrently? Assume again that for one user to stream a game, one console is required and is locked for the duration of gameplay. How many consoles would we need such that every user at any given time who requests a game session will have an available console. 10,000? 100,000? A million? Would users have to wait in line to play a game? I would think these are the harder questions to answer.

“It really would be interesting to see Gaikai’s solution to these issues. In my opinion, showing one or two instances of lag free remote streaming gameplay is great but not really worthy of mentioning.”

He also advised against picking up an Xbox One from Target, which is reportedly shipping the consoles early. “I would advise no one to buy this. 1) Could be a scam. 2) He blotted out S/N but the barcode is still there. I’ve already saved and scanned it. 3) This console will be banned soon, if it was stolen or from the Beta.” Considering the controversy that’s followed, that might be for the best.

What are your thoughts on the same? Let us know below.


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  • Geoff Carlin

    Ok another xbox dev said somewhere, can’t remember where I saw it, that there would be no humanly noticeable lag connecting a PS4 to an Xbox One. Surely this applies to a Xbox 360 as well? Granted you would need to make sure you did not have one of the initial 360s without the HDMI – but I’m persoally looking forward to hooking up my 360 to the One and seeing if it works 🙂

  • Geoff Carlin

    And granted I know you mean cloud compatibility in the aricle or on board emulators – but surely the best solution right now to backwards compatibility is simply plugging your 360 into the One?


 

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