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		By: Kidd		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kidd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2016 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-286039&quot;&gt;Dotcum22&lt;/a&gt;.

Yup! &#038; il add to it. The stacked Gpu is Nividia GPU with an AMD GPU!! Dx12 enables both to work together! But Ps4 will have this year then a melted core!!!!!!!!]]></description>
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<p>Yup! &amp; il add to it. The stacked Gpu is Nividia GPU with an AMD GPU!! Dx12 enables both to work together! But Ps4 will have this year then a melted core!!!!!!!!</p>
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		By: Dotcum22		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dotcum22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2016 17:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-286019&quot;&gt;Kidd&lt;/a&gt;.

Wanne bet on it that this wet dream of yours will never happen?]]></description>
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<p>Wanne bet on it that this wet dream of yours will never happen?</p>
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		By: Kidd		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-286019</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kidd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2016 02:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-221015&quot;&gt;Jacob S&lt;/a&gt;.

Xbox One has 2 GPU&#039;s and Microsoft will announce that they can do and run different Exclusive games &#038; Applications that Ps4 will never see &#038; plain &#038; simple cant do cause Ps4 core&#039;s will burn up!!]]></description>
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<p>Xbox One has 2 GPU&#8217;s and Microsoft will announce that they can do and run different Exclusive games &amp; Applications that Ps4 will never see &amp; plain &amp; simple cant do cause Ps4 core&#8217;s will burn up!!</p>
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		By: Kidd		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kidd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2016 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-221015&quot;&gt;Jacob S&lt;/a&gt;.

I know this is an old post but what do you think or have you heard about  how Microsoft hide a Cpu from the main Cpu to do other task for the esram ? I think they also said it was for cloud purposes &#038; they hide it so that it could be used at same time to do other processing. It was when Xbox One 1st released that Microsoft talked about this and since than went quiet. Xbox One is  a Power House like you said it has untapped dormant tech!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-221015">Jacob S</a>.</p>
<p>I know this is an old post but what do you think or have you heard about  how Microsoft hide a Cpu from the main Cpu to do other task for the esram ? I think they also said it was for cloud purposes &amp; they hide it so that it could be used at same time to do other processing. It was when Xbox One 1st released that Microsoft talked about this and since than went quiet. Xbox One is  a Power House like you said it has untapped dormant tech!!!</p>
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		By: Cinnamon267		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-221028</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cinnamon267]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 23:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-221015&quot;&gt;Jacob S&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;So what you are saying is in a few years, with the internet speeds continuing to increase- then the Xbox1 will have a lot more power at it&#039;s disposal than the PS4&quot;


If everyone has insanely low latency, then maybe? Depends. Everyone wants 60fps which means your time to do something with the cloud is greatly diminished. You&#039;ll have barely any time to do anything meaningful.


We don&#039;t know their advantage with cloud compute because it might never present itself. And if latency ever gets that low they won&#039;t bother with offloading stuff they&#039;ll just stream the entire game to you. Resource tiling? I assume you mean MS&#039;s implementation of Partial Resident Texturing? PS4, like the Xbox One, is a 7xxx series AMD GPU and can do the exact same thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-221015">Jacob S</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;So what you are saying is in a few years, with the internet speeds continuing to increase- then the Xbox1 will have a lot more power at it&#8217;s disposal than the PS4&#8221;</p>
<p>If everyone has insanely low latency, then maybe? Depends. Everyone wants 60fps which means your time to do something with the cloud is greatly diminished. You&#8217;ll have barely any time to do anything meaningful.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know their advantage with cloud compute because it might never present itself. And if latency ever gets that low they won&#8217;t bother with offloading stuff they&#8217;ll just stream the entire game to you. Resource tiling? I assume you mean MS&#8217;s implementation of Partial Resident Texturing? PS4, like the Xbox One, is a 7xxx series AMD GPU and can do the exact same thing.</p>
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		By: Jacob S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 22:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-220741&quot;&gt;Cinnamon267&lt;/a&gt;.

So what you are saying is in a few years, with the internet speeds continuing to increase- then the Xbox1 will have a lot more power at it&#039;s disposal than the PS4... a lot more room for growth down the road.  
Really, what does it matter what you offload to the cloud?  Whatever it is a CPU or GPU calculation your freeing up hardware resources.  Games esp. Crytek&#039;s games are a lot more CPU bound.  Offloading to the GPU is going to become more important.  With MS using Esram/move engines they are going to be able to use the GPU for CPU calcs in CPU bound games and this is where MS APU design has a big advantage over PS4.  Yes, PS4 is going to do it too, but X1 is going to do it better.   MS has a big advantage with cloud compute, resource tiling and GPU acceleration.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-220741">Cinnamon267</a>.</p>
<p>So what you are saying is in a few years, with the internet speeds continuing to increase- then the Xbox1 will have a lot more power at it&#8217;s disposal than the PS4&#8230; a lot more room for growth down the road.<br />
Really, what does it matter what you offload to the cloud?  Whatever it is a CPU or GPU calculation your freeing up hardware resources.  Games esp. Crytek&#8217;s games are a lot more CPU bound.  Offloading to the GPU is going to become more important.  With MS using Esram/move engines they are going to be able to use the GPU for CPU calcs in CPU bound games and this is where MS APU design has a big advantage over PS4.  Yes, PS4 is going to do it too, but X1 is going to do it better.   MS has a big advantage with cloud compute, resource tiling and GPU acceleration.</p>
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		By: Psionicinversion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Psionicinversion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-220741&quot;&gt;Cinnamon267&lt;/a&gt;.

ah right fair enough]]></description>
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<p>ah right fair enough</p>
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		By: You are flat out wrong		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[You are flat out wrong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-220728&quot;&gt;Kevin Kirby&lt;/a&gt;.

Quadruple stacked. Xbone CONFIRMED being sold to Burger King.]]></description>
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<p>Quadruple stacked. Xbone CONFIRMED being sold to Burger King.</p>
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		By: Xtreme Derp		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xtreme Derp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-220740&quot;&gt;Novatrinty&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL no. 720p to 1080p or 30 fps to 60 fps is more than &quot;slightly faster&quot;. Keep spinning while PS4 outsells Xbox by millions.]]></description>
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<p>LOL no. 720p to 1080p or 30 fps to 60 fps is more than &#8220;slightly faster&#8221;. Keep spinning while PS4 outsells Xbox by millions.</p>
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		By: Cinnamon267		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cinnamon267]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 06:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/albert-penello-further-debunks-xbox-one-dual-gpu-claims-assures-tools-games-performance-improvements#comment-220738&quot;&gt;Psionicinversion&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s rendering real time raytracing, sure. But, the image is still insanely grainy and noisy because the software isn&#039;t there and won&#039;t be there for a few years. Plus, almost no one has the hardware capable of doing it. It&#039;s still a few years off even being on the market. Creating a server farm of that hardware isn&#039;t cost effective or intelligent. 


Dedicated ray trace units exists but, even then, it isn&#039;t cheap and you still need the software to be where it needs to be and it won&#039;t be there for a few years.


I assume the &quot;why not&quot; is in referring to the cloud not being able to do anything with graphics on a per-frame- basis and it is because there is too much latency. All in the cloud will be the only option.]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s rendering real time raytracing, sure. But, the image is still insanely grainy and noisy because the software isn&#8217;t there and won&#8217;t be there for a few years. Plus, almost no one has the hardware capable of doing it. It&#8217;s still a few years off even being on the market. Creating a server farm of that hardware isn&#8217;t cost effective or intelligent. </p>
<p>Dedicated ray trace units exists but, even then, it isn&#8217;t cheap and you still need the software to be where it needs to be and it won&#8217;t be there for a few years.</p>
<p>I assume the &#8220;why not&#8221; is in referring to the cloud not being able to do anything with graphics on a per-frame- basis and it is because there is too much latency. All in the cloud will be the only option.</p>
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