Xbox One – AMD HD7850 chip
PS4 – AMD HD7870 chip

An HD5870 is a bit older and doesn’t have GCN cores. The CPU part though is rightish I think.

I also forgot to mention that whereas PC’s have been getting cheaper, consoles have not, in fact they cost more than they did 10 years ago, games cost more, they pay for online play, wouldn’t surprise me if there is some other hidden cost as well.

If you don’t have a PC and are buying one from the start then yeah I agree that up front cost is quite a bit more then consoles, more so if you want a PC that can beat the PS4 with ease which I always would recommended getting a PC with enough grunt force to last then just getting enough to compete with the PS4, after all that, if say the consoles last 8 years, we’re talking maybe a graphic card upgrade in 4 or so years, which pays for itself because of the savings we get on PC’s over consoles, as well as the money we get from selling the old card, that’s pretty much what I did last gen and ended up getting a graphic card upgrade mid life and still being cheaper than what my friend put into his PS3, this was judging of just the games we both bought for PC and PS3.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have a problem with consoles as such but they do hold progress back in games as well as hardware, I also find that when I did have a console, I got bored with them a lot more than I do on PC, it’s the big advantage the PC’s got, being able to do pretty much anything we want with them.

It was never running native 1080p ( all time ) it was ( and still is ) dynamic in resolution, while PS4 is native 1080p.

Exactly. I spent the same amount on my PC that I spent on a PS3 ($500 original one that can play Ps2 and ps1 disk) and ps4 ($400). So spending between $800 to $1k on a desktop that you can OC, can last you 2 generations of consoles for the same price. Most people don’t understand that.

It’s not really consoles that have changed, it’s the PC that’s got better, it’s cheaper, easy to program for and it doesn’t help that they went cheap with these consoles unlike the last ones.

I remember in the mid 90’s my brother bought a high end PC and it cost him around £2500, today you can build a PC like that’s high end for about £800.

Could be right, there is some big performance increases coming up on the PC this year with DirectX 12 and Vulcan, as well as the new microns on the gpu’s and cpu’s, that because it’s skipped a generation should give us anywhere from 40% to 70% if not more considering we’ve been on this micron since 2011.

It wouldn’t surprise me if performance level of a 960ti becomes mid to low end hardware on the new micron, at least from AMD side because they need to gain market share so I suspect they will give us a big performance boost at a good price.

The gap between PC and PS4 (the closest in performance) is just going to get nastier. One can hope devs will take advantage, and PC versions of games will get their own baselines along with more unique experiences.

Hardware wise, the PS4 is anywhere from 10% to 40% faster then the Xbox One depending on the task it’s doing, if parity doesn’t come into play, pretty much every game should run and look better on PS4 than Xbox One and the same with the PC, take parity out of it and the PC version would be way ahead of the PS4 version, hardware specs don’t lie and unlike the last gen of consoles, all 3 platforms are more or less the same and easy to program for, so there is no excuse for parity, games should go in this order from top to bottom, PC, PS4 and Xbox One, Wii U if they support it.

As a PC gamer i couldn’t care less about consoles. But, let’s face it, the majority of PS4 games today support 1080p, whilst XBox One don’t. Which i dont’ think is very good thing in 2016.