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		By: Mike Lebowski		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274179</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Lebowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 08:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274137&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

I bash Sony :)  I think they take advantage of their customers&#039; loyalty.  They&#039;re quality is not the same as it used to be also.  I actually like the gaming and system provided, just doesn&#039;t do for me what an Xbox does (feature wise and feeling wise)]]></description>
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<p>I bash Sony 🙂  I think they take advantage of their customers&#8217; loyalty.  They&#8217;re quality is not the same as it used to be also.  I actually like the gaming and system provided, just doesn&#8217;t do for me what an Xbox does (feature wise and feeling wise)</p>
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		By: Mike Lebowski		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274176</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Lebowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 07:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274080&quot;&gt;XbotMK1&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds to me like you&#039;ve been conflating cloud computing and cloud assisted gaming, because that&#039;s what you&#039;ve described, in part.  What&#039;s different is where the host information is.  In your cases the information was server side, with xb1 it will be local.  That means xbone already has all the massively large files and will literally be transferring bits of info at a time, then receiving only the completed computations, even less.  It&#039;s the exact same thing a console does to get FLOPS.  If it helps you to think of this way, they&#039;re basically FLOPing the FLOPS.


Yes, everyone has a bias, doesn&#039;t mean your own should dictate how you receive information.  For instance, you have a strong held belief that Xbox fans only defend Xbox because of a lapse in judgment.  This means that no matter what we say you assume that is also coming from a lack of judgment.  This happens before you even know what&#039;s said, as in predetermined.  Then, as you take in information, your brain automatically seeks to invalidate it.  This is not a process you would be aware of.  It is how the mind has evolved to save time in processing information.  Not the human brain, the animal brain.  The only fix is being decidedly subjective and never assuming you&#039;re right and they&#039;re wrong.  It&#039;s not a quick fix, nor is there universal application.  You will, if you&#039;re willing, have to do this over and over again.  My philosophy is, don&#039;t try to be right all the time, just try to be correct]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274080">XbotMK1</a>.</p>
<p>Sounds to me like you&#8217;ve been conflating cloud computing and cloud assisted gaming, because that&#8217;s what you&#8217;ve described, in part.  What&#8217;s different is where the host information is.  In your cases the information was server side, with xb1 it will be local.  That means xbone already has all the massively large files and will literally be transferring bits of info at a time, then receiving only the completed computations, even less.  It&#8217;s the exact same thing a console does to get FLOPS.  If it helps you to think of this way, they&#8217;re basically FLOPing the FLOPS.</p>
<p>Yes, everyone has a bias, doesn&#8217;t mean your own should dictate how you receive information.  For instance, you have a strong held belief that Xbox fans only defend Xbox because of a lapse in judgment.  This means that no matter what we say you assume that is also coming from a lack of judgment.  This happens before you even know what&#8217;s said, as in predetermined.  Then, as you take in information, your brain automatically seeks to invalidate it.  This is not a process you would be aware of.  It is how the mind has evolved to save time in processing information.  Not the human brain, the animal brain.  The only fix is being decidedly subjective and never assuming you&#8217;re right and they&#8217;re wrong.  It&#8217;s not a quick fix, nor is there universal application.  You will, if you&#8217;re willing, have to do this over and over again.  My philosophy is, don&#8217;t try to be right all the time, just try to be correct</p>
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		By: Mike Lebowski		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274175</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Lebowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 06:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274141&quot;&gt;DarthDiggler&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree, nicely done with the pic!  Helps so much with the formatting on a 4.5” too]]></description>
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<p>I agree, nicely done with the pic!  Helps so much with the formatting on a 4.5” too</p>
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		By: Mike Lebowski		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274172</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Lebowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 06:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274150&quot;&gt;GHz&lt;/a&gt;.

Lol, damn dude!  When ig got the email with a link in it I opened it up thinking I was getting ready to see a bona fide source of information that just might prove a claim made by a Pony]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274150">GHz</a>.</p>
<p>Lol, damn dude!  When ig got the email with a link in it I opened it up thinking I was getting ready to see a bona fide source of information that just might prove a claim made by a Pony</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274171</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 05:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274141&quot;&gt;DarthDiggler&lt;/a&gt;.

I got ur screenshot buddy, I&#039;ll reply soon. I like how u posted ur reply as a screenshot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274141">DarthDiggler</a>.</p>
<p>I got ur screenshot buddy, I&#8217;ll reply soon. I like how u posted ur reply as a screenshot.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 05:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274132&quot;&gt;DarthDiggler&lt;/a&gt;.

Here&#039;s a pic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274132">DarthDiggler</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a pic.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 05:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274132&quot;&gt;DarthDiggler&lt;/a&gt;.

Ok here&#039;s one big difference between Azure and Gaikai with respect to compute processing power, in terms of Gflops or Floating Point Precision performance over the net. Look at the gflops and how that translates to frame rate and resolution. 

This is because there&#039;s a massive disparity in the amount of, and kind, of CPUs and GPU units per server rack. Microsoft just upgraded Azure with GRID 2.0. So although both Gaikai and Azure are cloud data centers, there&#039;s a massive disparity in compute power.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274132">DarthDiggler</a>.</p>
<p>Ok here&#8217;s one big difference between Azure and Gaikai with respect to compute processing power, in terms of Gflops or Floating Point Precision performance over the net. Look at the gflops and how that translates to frame rate and resolution. </p>
<p>This is because there&#8217;s a massive disparity in the amount of, and kind, of CPUs and GPU units per server rack. Microsoft just upgraded Azure with GRID 2.0. So although both Gaikai and Azure are cloud data centers, there&#8217;s a massive disparity in compute power.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 05:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274138&quot;&gt;GHz&lt;/a&gt;.

These guys don&#039;t get that Gaikai is a generation one, cloud based rack of servers. Generation 1. That means, the computational power is VERY limited to what Azure or Amazon&#039;s EC2 servers can do. Basically there&#039;s way less CPUs and GPUs per rack in Gaikai than Azure. What the heck do people think Microsoft spends BILLIONS on Azure for? They just upgraded to Nvidia&#039;s GRID 2.0! Jeez]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274138">GHz</a>.</p>
<p>These guys don&#8217;t get that Gaikai is a generation one, cloud based rack of servers. Generation 1. That means, the computational power is VERY limited to what Azure or Amazon&#8217;s EC2 servers can do. Basically there&#8217;s way less CPUs and GPUs per rack in Gaikai than Azure. What the heck do people think Microsoft spends BILLIONS on Azure for? They just upgraded to Nvidia&#8217;s GRID 2.0! Jeez</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 00:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274153&quot;&gt;GHz&lt;/a&gt;.

As mentioned before, I doubt Sony&#039;s developing anything with cloud assist in mind. People have to understand, they want to focus on PS Now, and Playstation VR, that is their focus. Microsoft&#039;s unifying all Win 10 devices and investing in cloud assist. I have no problem with people here excited for Sony&#039;s vision, but I do have issue with them telling us and readers why we shouldn&#039;t be hyped for Microsoft&#039;s plans.

U wanna know how pumped I am just to get the new Elite controller? Very!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274153">GHz</a>.</p>
<p>As mentioned before, I doubt Sony&#8217;s developing anything with cloud assist in mind. People have to understand, they want to focus on PS Now, and Playstation VR, that is their focus. Microsoft&#8217;s unifying all Win 10 devices and investing in cloud assist. I have no problem with people here excited for Sony&#8217;s vision, but I do have issue with them telling us and readers why we shouldn&#8217;t be hyped for Microsoft&#8217;s plans.</p>
<p>U wanna know how pumped I am just to get the new Elite controller? Very!!!</p>
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		By: GHz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GHz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2015 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274148&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

As if MSFT never came and said early on that they were working on cloud solutions where all your devices will have access to the compute services they were trying to explain to us. And what happened? They were called liars. It got even worst when Cerney chimed in and said, &quot;That wont work well in the cloud&quot; 
Now all of sudden they find hope in Cloudgine being a platform not tethered to only one system. How does that work? They want to hear PS4 and cloudgine in the same sentence now. Forget that Gaikai  cant work with it. Their hope is now that Amazon or Rackspace or EVEN Azure Cloud will be mentioned in the same sentence with the PS4 &#038; Cloudgine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/crackdown-3-cloud-tech-could-come-to-non-microsoft-platforms-tech-allows-ground-breaking-experiences#comment-274148">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>As if MSFT never came and said early on that they were working on cloud solutions where all your devices will have access to the compute services they were trying to explain to us. And what happened? They were called liars. It got even worst when Cerney chimed in and said, &#8220;That wont work well in the cloud&#8221;<br />
Now all of sudden they find hope in Cloudgine being a platform not tethered to only one system. How does that work? They want to hear PS4 and cloudgine in the same sentence now. Forget that Gaikai  cant work with it. Their hope is now that Amazon or Rackspace or EVEN Azure Cloud will be mentioned in the same sentence with the PS4 &amp; Cloudgine.</p>
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