“Most everyone else,journalists, and other articles already known all
along, was a Jaguar cpu by it’s specs and it’s overall description
before DF came out.”

They knew? So MS was sharing info with journalists from the get go? Or, perhaps, just perhaps, they were all speculating on what it was going to be.

“Speculate” – Form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence.

And by the amount of info they had they could have argued about a Puma based chip as well.

DF only confirmed what most everyone else, journalists, and other articles already known all along, that it was a Jaguar cpu, going off it’s specs and it’s overall description, still based off the same x86 architecture as the base PS4 and XB1 before DF even came out. Microsoft themselves also came out and against confirmed it was an evolved jaguar cpu, due to them modifying, and customizing that chip, at the same time, mentioning the increase in bandwidth from 320 to 326.

DF is the one calling it a Jaguar not MS, a journalists words vs an architects? Yeah I’ll stick with the architect. By the same logic a Puma or even a Puma+ based chips are Jaguars as well. I mean it’s nothing more than a “heavily customized” chip based off a previous iteration – btw Puma cores are based on the Jag microarch and design, but with improvements. MS could be pushing narratives, but how can everyone be so sure it’s the same chip, let alone claim that it is? Were people there, were they part of the team that worked on it? It was DFs author that came with that, I remember him saying previously and pushing with the “it’s going to be a Jaguar” narrative, so what if he wanted nothing more than validation to what he stated and an ego boost?

It’s the same Jaguar cpu, Pro’s is clocked at 2.1 ghz, and the 1X is at 2.3 ghz, both were overclocked, even more so with the 1X. Microsoft can do as much customizing, and modifying as they want to and try to push that narrative that “now we no longer consider it a Jag”. It doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s still that same Jaguar cpu they took, then heavily customized that chip, and on top of that overclocked it even further than Sony did with theirs.

While I agree on the marketing part, as neither console is currently actually capable of true native 4k on complex next gen titles. And I was against the whole midgen nonsense because I knew this was coming. Even if it’s not now, sooner or latter there would have been games that would have pushed the xbox to use either upscaling or worse visuals etc. sacrifices would have had to be made to keep the 4k rethoric.

And here we are already.

… However, I would warrant caution on whatever Bungie says in regards to why the game doesn’t run at a certain resolution/framerate. The thing that makes me wonder about Destiny 2 the most and whatever statement Bungie gives is the marketing right Sony paid for.

If anyone thinks that a marketing deal worth $60 million has nothing do with this, especially when you’re (that is Sony with the ps4 and the pro) now the underdog in terms of power … well, good luck with that.

Btw about the CPU, people think it’s the same as the one in the pro with a slight upclock i.e. a Jaguar … it isn’t. Otherwise MS would simply call it that, but they aren’t because – as they’ve stated – of the multiple customization done to the chip.

Short version: maybe the xbox CPU is really to weak, but it’s a lot more powerful than the one in the ps4 pro and that, IMO, doesn’t sound all that enticing for developers that have CPU intensive games they would like to put on the console.

The thing is, people know that racing type games in general aren’t that demanding. GT Sport is running at 1800p CB at 60fps, so it is close to Forza perfomance wise, Forza looked and ran pretty much perfect anyways on the XB1/XB1S from my experience seeing my brother play it on his. It also has less physics going on when you compare it to Driveclub. The 1X should be the best performing console when it releases, with the PS4 PRO in 2nd place. The real test is gonna be those more demanding and open world games.

So you’re still in denial that the Xbox one X is the best console ever made so far, when such a demanding race sim PC2 can run at true 4k and 60fps while PS4 pro won’t even come close.
You Sony fanboy’s have such a short memory when you all were proclaiming it was all about the power of ps4.