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		By: TheWayItsMeantToBePlayed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheWayItsMeantToBePlayed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247810&quot;&gt;Michael Norris&lt;/a&gt;.

Drivers and compatibility issues haven&#039;t been an issue since AMD and Nvidia started offering auto-detection distribution programs that install latest versions of Direct X along with their own drivers and software suites. When you install a new Nvidia card, it automatically takes you to Nvidia&#039;s site to download the package. PC gaming has been foolproof for years and your outdated concepts of what it is are laughable. 



Consoles used to be for ease of use and are around to take pennies off gullible fools who buy for a brand name than a proper product. At least the Wii U had the dignity to differentiate itself and offer excellent software than the APU twins.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247810">Michael Norris</a>.</p>
<p>Drivers and compatibility issues haven&#8217;t been an issue since AMD and Nvidia started offering auto-detection distribution programs that install latest versions of Direct X along with their own drivers and software suites. When you install a new Nvidia card, it automatically takes you to Nvidia&#8217;s site to download the package. PC gaming has been foolproof for years and your outdated concepts of what it is are laughable. </p>
<p>Consoles used to be for ease of use and are around to take pennies off gullible fools who buy for a brand name than a proper product. At least the Wii U had the dignity to differentiate itself and offer excellent software than the APU twins.</p>
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		By: d0x360		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[d0x360]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247813&quot;&gt;Michael Norris&lt;/a&gt;.

OK so the audio is being done on the GPU instead of the CPU.  It still doesn&#039;t have a dedicated audio chip it has an integrated audio chip on the GPU die.  Thanks for the link.  Its been well over a year since I looked at a pinout of amds soc designs.

That doesn&#039;t change the fact that a dedicated chip is still better.  When you you combine a chip into another chips pipeline you are taking finite resources from one of them.  The point still stands exactly the same except its GPU resources not CPU resources.  No CPUs are not holding gaming back. Lazy developers not making proper use of multithreading is holding it back.  No modern game engine maximizes CPU core use which is why Microsoft is creating direct x 12.  Obviously.

Gddr5 is bad for CPU tasks.  Period.  Do you see any PC using gddr5 for CPU tasks?  No you dont and never will.  Latency is bad for CPU tasks and gddr5 has higher latency than the ddr3 it is based on.  Both are being replaced with ddr4 which is faster and has lower latency than gddr5.  You can argue all day long that gddr5 is fine for a CPU but you are wrong its that simple. 
Xbox..why are you talking about Xbox alpha effects and frame rate?  So far this discussion has been about the ps4 audio and CPU capabilities.  Your leanings are showing and I said in the first post I will not partake in a fanboy bs flame war.  So reign it in and be civil.  Your post stinks of holier than though which is ironic to anyone who understands hardware. 
As for the initial post I haven&#039;t had a chance to go through the rest yet I had a pipe burst last night so I&#039;ve been fairly busy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247813">Michael Norris</a>.</p>
<p>OK so the audio is being done on the GPU instead of the CPU.  It still doesn&#8217;t have a dedicated audio chip it has an integrated audio chip on the GPU die.  Thanks for the link.  Its been well over a year since I looked at a pinout of amds soc designs.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t change the fact that a dedicated chip is still better.  When you you combine a chip into another chips pipeline you are taking finite resources from one of them.  The point still stands exactly the same except its GPU resources not CPU resources.  No CPUs are not holding gaming back. Lazy developers not making proper use of multithreading is holding it back.  No modern game engine maximizes CPU core use which is why Microsoft is creating direct x 12.  Obviously.</p>
<p>Gddr5 is bad for CPU tasks.  Period.  Do you see any PC using gddr5 for CPU tasks?  No you dont and never will.  Latency is bad for CPU tasks and gddr5 has higher latency than the ddr3 it is based on.  Both are being replaced with ddr4 which is faster and has lower latency than gddr5.  You can argue all day long that gddr5 is fine for a CPU but you are wrong its that simple.<br />
Xbox..why are you talking about Xbox alpha effects and frame rate?  So far this discussion has been about the ps4 audio and CPU capabilities.  Your leanings are showing and I said in the first post I will not partake in a fanboy bs flame war.  So reign it in and be civil.  Your post stinks of holier than though which is ironic to anyone who understands hardware.<br />
As for the initial post I haven&#8217;t had a chance to go through the rest yet I had a pipe burst last night so I&#8217;ve been fairly busy.</p>
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		By: Michael Norris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Norris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247715&quot;&gt;d0x360&lt;/a&gt;.

The Audio is built into the APU you won&#039;t see the it unless you Xray the APU.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247715">d0x360</a>.</p>
<p>The Audio is built into the APU you won&#8217;t see the it unless you Xray the APU.</p>
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		By: Michael Norris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Norris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247682&quot;&gt;d0x360&lt;/a&gt;.

Finally you say something that has to do with the article.]]></description>
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<p>Finally you say something that has to do with the article.</p>
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		By: Michael Norris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Norris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247715&quot;&gt;d0x360&lt;/a&gt;.

You are so wrong about the audio used in Ps4.Just piss off and take your bias attitude with you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247715">d0x360</a>.</p>
<p>You are so wrong about the audio used in Ps4.Just piss off and take your bias attitude with you.</p>
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		By: Michael Norris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Norris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247681&quot;&gt;d0x360&lt;/a&gt;.

You are wrong about Ps4 using a Cpu for it&#039;s audio.http://www.redgamingtech.com/playstation-4-audio-dsp-based-on-amds-trueaudio-technology/

Also GDDR5 isn&#039;t a issue for CPU the latency is a non factor.Also you talk about frame rate yet when any game on Xone has huge amounts of alpha effects the frame rate drops case and point BF4/GTA5 

How about you take your false information away.http://www.redgamingtech.com/ubisoft-gdc-presentation-of-ps4-x1-gpu-cpu-performance/



This is where gaming is going CPU&#039;s are holding back everything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247681">d0x360</a>.</p>
<p>You are wrong about Ps4 using a Cpu for it&#8217;s audio.<a href="http://www.redgamingtech.com/playstation-4-audio-dsp-based-on-amds-trueaudio-technology/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.redgamingtech.com/playstation-4-audio-dsp-based-on-amds-trueaudio-technology/</a></p>
<p>Also GDDR5 isn&#8217;t a issue for CPU the latency is a non factor.Also you talk about frame rate yet when any game on Xone has huge amounts of alpha effects the frame rate drops case and point BF4/GTA5 </p>
<p>How about you take your false information away.<a href="http://www.redgamingtech.com/ubisoft-gdc-presentation-of-ps4-x1-gpu-cpu-performance/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.redgamingtech.com/ubisoft-gdc-presentation-of-ps4-x1-gpu-cpu-performance/</a></p>
<p>This is where gaming is going CPU&#8217;s are holding back everything.</p>
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		By: Michael Norris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Norris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247733&quot;&gt;TheWayItsMeantToBePlayed&lt;/a&gt;.

Pc gaming isn&#039;t as easy as you pass it off to be.You can run into many issues,drivers,compatibility issues to name a few.Consoles have a reason,that reason is ease of use,so get off your Pc master race horse and understand why consoles are around.]]></description>
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<p>Pc gaming isn&#8217;t as easy as you pass it off to be.You can run into many issues,drivers,compatibility issues to name a few.Consoles have a reason,that reason is ease of use,so get off your Pc master race horse and understand why consoles are around.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 00:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;We make sure each platform is pushed to its limits&quot;. Well, he is saying there&#039;s no parity clause here with Dying Light, so I guess we&#039;ll see the face-off. Same as Bioware with DA:I &quot;we pushed every system to its max&quot;. And there were fps and resolution differences there......not all studios are doing parity. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We make sure each platform is pushed to its limits&#8221;. Well, he is saying there&#8217;s no parity clause here with Dying Light, so I guess we&#8217;ll see the face-off. Same as Bioware with DA:I &#8220;we pushed every system to its max&#8221;. And there were fps and resolution differences there&#8230;&#8230;not all studios are doing parity. </p>
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		By: Mike Scarborough		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Scarborough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247681&quot;&gt;d0x360&lt;/a&gt;.

man ... that was freakin awesome! lol, thanks. You really seem to know what your talking about. I know for me, when I see someone start in with a bias attitude, I skip right over the rest of the comment. I love reading stuff like this. Thanks again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247681">d0x360</a>.</p>
<p>man &#8230; that was freakin awesome! lol, thanks. You really seem to know what your talking about. I know for me, when I see someone start in with a bias attitude, I skip right over the rest of the comment. I love reading stuff like this. Thanks again.</p>
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		By: Mike Scarborough		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Scarborough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/devs-feel-like-shit-when-they-deliver-games-in-poor-state-dying-light-to-push-all-platforms-techland#comment-247674&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;.

seriously, what awesome questions. I totally agree.]]></description>
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<p>seriously, what awesome questions. I totally agree.</p>
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