Nope, Zen can wait they need to get it right. Besides CPU tech isnt going anywhere really, there is no reason to upgrade well unless you want a 6/8 core intel.. If youve got an i7/i5 for example, any i7/i5 quad core its not worth upgrading. Ive got a i7 950 and its not worth upgrading just for the cpu especially with DX12 there going to be more free performance coming with it breathing new life into the chips.

As for the 400 series on 14nm well there still sorting out 16nm. GPU’s get manufactured on a high performance node which takes alot longer than the low power node that cpu’s/soc’s/apu’s etc get built on. Pascal will be coming on 16nm probably around the start of next year, pends on how it goes. 400 series should be on 14nm around october/november 2016 unless theres delays. If its delayed to long they just redesign it and slap it on a 16nm

I want them to come out as soon as possible, don’t you?

Well then its a good job those products aren’t out for at least a year

For one, 14nm hasn’t matured and assuming 4000 is the limit then 8000 would be the physical limit for 14nm,

i wouldnt say easily, i think HBM2 limit is 8 high of 2Gb layers 512MB per layer x8 =4GB x 4 = 16GB x2 dual link interposer which might not be a very good idea have to see what AMD does = 32GB

Also 4000 SP’s 28nm why cant 10,000 fit on 14nm which is what zen and 400 series will be built on

The thing is that it could easily have 32GB HBM.

Wrong, its possible to go UPTO 32GB with gen2 HBM. doesnt mean it will have it

Nope I’m coding for PC using Unreal Engine 4.

Intel’s CPUs will still be ahead of AMD. Pascal will have 32GB HBM. R9 4xx series won’t have 10K processors. Only NVLink for Pascal might be for servers.

Ok so when zen HPC APU hits next year, 16 core Zen, tons of greenland GPU cores and 16GB HBM…. does that mean Zen and Greenland are only for the super highend? no, Zen is the line of CPUs and the Greenland gfx is the 400 series GPU.

Is the 400 series GPU only going to come with 10,000 Stream Processors…. or wait a min can they scale it down omg holy crap. yes they can.

The pascal stuff will be the same as server stuff except gimped DP and gimped FP16 most liekly seeing as games dont need it. Is the core architectural advances still going be there?? omg im on a roll im going YES yes it will.

Wow for some who apparently low level codes, hope its for the game boy becuase if you doing games they will be crap

Most of the stuff that Pascal will have (32GB HBM v2, insanely strong GPU) will only be for the high end.