Seriously, I gave you a reasonable answer based upon my expertise and you reply back with an exaggerated answer. If you want a rational reasonable conversation, let’s have one.

A console IS a PC. The only difference is you can’t upgrade the hardware, short of the HD. The OS, firmware, and software are more strictly controlled. That is the only difference. Hence, the more stable gaming experience. A few tweaks and they could have had a console that will give a satisfactory performance pushing 10 years. As it is, they’ll have to drop a new system within five years to keep up with the VR Hardware, 3D, and other bells and whistles they’ll be releasing soon.

OK, Lets just put is this way.

PS4 has a custom 8 core CPU at 4.5GHz,

PS4 has a single custom GPU ( R9 290X )

PS4 has 16GB of custom GDDR5 RAM

PS4 power supply of 400W

( PC Elitist will still state it’s under powered ) when compared to gaming PCs, and say how dear it is compared to PC☺

So the lesson to be learned is simple. Don’t compare a high rated gaming PC to any console when it comes to hardware, as you might as well just go out and buy a PC to begin with.

The whole point of a console is to have something that just “simply works”. With PCs, you can tweak and upgrade to your heart’s content to get whatever performance range you want. You can sacrifice whatever you want to get ultimate eye candy or performance up the wazoo. Hassle free gaming with the understanding that you’re not going to directly compete with a PC.

However, this round…we’re pushing the console to the max right out of the gate and it is showing it’s weakness. Should it have been made more powerful? With my knowledge of hardware and in my professional opinion, a resounding yes. An I7 equivalent processor would have helped but at the very least, a stronger graphics engine should have been incorporated in the design that could handle the upgrade that people demand.

Never wanted to shout out that I’m average

We have had discussions, but you haven’t given a direct answer to “why do you think PS4 should do it?” When a PC cannot ( even when 10x more powerful than PS4 )

Have we not already had this discussion?

So now we know that, why do you think PS4 should do it? When a PC cannot ( even when 10x more powerful than PS4 )

Yes. You’re right. Even a PC like yours can’t keep a solid 60 fps with all games without lowering some settings.

“I’m here to tell you that based upon my expertise – yes, indeed…the hardware is not something special”

Consoles hardware is not meant to be special OR compared to PCs, and your expertise should have told you that really.

It’s a console made for easy use for kids and adults alike. PS4 doesn’t need to be a PC power house with ultra high GPUs / CPUs as it’s made to play games hassle free ( and not everything a PC is made for )

BUT what I stated still stands no matter how much experience you have.. “Even a PC using a HD 7990 ( like mine ) cannot keep a solid 60fps at 1080p with all games ( without lowering settings ) even though it’s a duel GPU, so why do people believe a console should be doing it when PCs cannot do so”

I have 28 years experience in IT (Information Technology). I have been a hardware specialist, a network specialist, a computer repair specialist, Computer sales, an IT Manager, an IT Director, and have owned a Computer consulting firm for the last ten years. I have worked with NASA, DOD, Lockheed Martin, Merrill Lynch, Raymond James and Associates, Scientific Imaging Technologies, PixelVision of Oregon, several school systems, and currently manage 300+ clients.

I’m here to tell you that based upon my expertise – yes, indeed…the hardware is not something special. It is standard hardware. I don’t know what your qualifications are for your opinion but they’re just wishful thinking and hope from where I stand.