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		By: James		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2014 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242707&quot;&gt;Alex Serrano&lt;/a&gt;.

Console games sell more copies at a higher price than most Pc games.
Publishers make more money on console and dont have to worry as much about piracy.
Pc development also tends to be more difficult because the wide range of hardware configuration that have to be considered. Then you have content deals on the consoles that dont happen in the pc world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242707">Alex Serrano</a>.</p>
<p>Console games sell more copies at a higher price than most Pc games.<br />
Publishers make more money on console and dont have to worry as much about piracy.<br />
Pc development also tends to be more difficult because the wide range of hardware configuration that have to be considered. Then you have content deals on the consoles that dont happen in the pc world.</p>
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		By: Guest		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242674&quot;&gt;Psionicinversion&lt;/a&gt;.

Because those games were started into development on the very first SDKs and the game engines and middleware are going to improve with time as well. Lots of optimization to go around. It doesn&#039;t just all come in one fell swoop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242674">Psionicinversion</a>.</p>
<p>Because those games were started into development on the very first SDKs and the game engines and middleware are going to improve with time as well. Lots of optimization to go around. It doesn&#8217;t just all come in one fell swoop.</p>
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		By: MrKmal10		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrKmal10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242734&quot;&gt;Psionicinversion&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re the stupid one for thinking that consoles are not going to improve performance-wise whereas in the old geneneration of consoles we could see really big differences between first games and last games in terms of graphics. But i&#039;m not suprised really,  most of your comments are intented to put your PC forward and to criticize the consoles. So i&#039;m gonna stop discussing with you as you&#039;re to biaised to have a  good reasoning. Oh and get a life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242734">Psionicinversion</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the stupid one for thinking that consoles are not going to improve performance-wise whereas in the old geneneration of consoles we could see really big differences between first games and last games in terms of graphics. But i&#8217;m not suprised really,  most of your comments are intented to put your PC forward and to criticize the consoles. So i&#8217;m gonna stop discussing with you as you&#8217;re to biaised to have a  good reasoning. Oh and get a life.</p>
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		By: Psionicinversion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Psionicinversion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 01:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242712&quot;&gt;MrKmal10&lt;/a&gt;.

you r stupid the only thing that can improve the compute performance is AMD, ND got nothing without AMD there got nothing. that increase is on driver level; so X1, ps4 and PC gets it. Next move]]></description>
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<p>you r stupid the only thing that can improve the compute performance is AMD, ND got nothing without AMD there got nothing. that increase is on driver level; so X1, ps4 and PC gets it. Next move</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242662&quot;&gt;Michael Norris&lt;/a&gt;.

8 ACES = 1 Command Processor, per AMD. They&#039;re used for efficient utilization of Compute on the CU (Compute Units) on PS4. They aren&#039;t extra units or anything to add on to the 18 CUs (really 14) of the PS4. But they will allow great things on the PS4 when devs use it for Compute that is really just CPU tasks (physics, AI etc) done better on the GPU. 

To be frank, per AMD, 8 ACES = 1 Command Processor. It is the part of the OS that receives and issues commands. The Xbox One has 4 Command Processors; 2 for GFX and 2 for Compute. So does this mean the X1 really has 24 ACES? It just means grater control of the app (or game). It doesn&#039;t add anything to CUs. The ACES just allows better control of Compute. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242662">Michael Norris</a>.</p>
<p>8 ACES = 1 Command Processor, per AMD. They&#8217;re used for efficient utilization of Compute on the CU (Compute Units) on PS4. They aren&#8217;t extra units or anything to add on to the 18 CUs (really 14) of the PS4. But they will allow great things on the PS4 when devs use it for Compute that is really just CPU tasks (physics, AI etc) done better on the GPU. </p>
<p>To be frank, per AMD, 8 ACES = 1 Command Processor. It is the part of the OS that receives and issues commands. The Xbox One has 4 Command Processors; 2 for GFX and 2 for Compute. So does this mean the X1 really has 24 ACES? It just means grater control of the app (or game). It doesn&#8217;t add anything to CUs. The ACES just allows better control of Compute. </p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242712&quot;&gt;MrKmal10&lt;/a&gt;.

U do realize that the PS4 cannot even do paralell rendering right? It has 1 pipeline for rendering. Even for GPGPU. Those 8 ACES that everyone&#039;s talking about on PS4, is equal to 1 Command Processor, per AMD. X1 has 4 Command Processors; 2 for GFX, 2 for Compute. Command Processors are what devs use to issue commands to the pipeline (if I&#039;m correct). It has dual pipe lines for dual rendering, simultaneously. So it can in fact calculate 2 times the commands the PS4 can in the same time frame. But only under DX12. That GPGPU test done by UbiSoft was under DX11, which is what current X1 is using. 

Brad Wardell talked about the X1 and paralell rendering, to give the GPU boost of 2x. Yes that&#039;s still considering CPU multi-threading. His current DX12 game is seeing 40% gains currently on X1, due to this feature, from recent Tweets. We&#039;re already seeing resolution and frame rate parity on a number of games between the 2 systems, and this is without the X1&#039;s intended API (DX12), or even best usage of Esram (Move Engines aren&#039;t even active currently). I have slides to prove this. I doubt the PS4 creates a wide gap, but both will improve obviously.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242712">MrKmal10</a>.</p>
<p>U do realize that the PS4 cannot even do paralell rendering right? It has 1 pipeline for rendering. Even for GPGPU. Those 8 ACES that everyone&#8217;s talking about on PS4, is equal to 1 Command Processor, per AMD. X1 has 4 Command Processors; 2 for GFX, 2 for Compute. Command Processors are what devs use to issue commands to the pipeline (if I&#8217;m correct). It has dual pipe lines for dual rendering, simultaneously. So it can in fact calculate 2 times the commands the PS4 can in the same time frame. But only under DX12. That GPGPU test done by UbiSoft was under DX11, which is what current X1 is using. </p>
<p>Brad Wardell talked about the X1 and paralell rendering, to give the GPU boost of 2x. Yes that&#8217;s still considering CPU multi-threading. His current DX12 game is seeing 40% gains currently on X1, due to this feature, from recent Tweets. We&#8217;re already seeing resolution and frame rate parity on a number of games between the 2 systems, and this is without the X1&#8217;s intended API (DX12), or even best usage of Esram (Move Engines aren&#8217;t even active currently). I have slides to prove this. I doubt the PS4 creates a wide gap, but both will improve obviously.</p>
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		By: Matty England		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matty England]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242707&quot;&gt;Alex Serrano&lt;/a&gt;.

Piracy and torrents.
Most of the PC gamers I know don&#039;t actually pay for their games. Obviously a lot do pay, I don&#039;t mean to stereotype but I think the devs have a safer bet of return on consoles.]]></description>
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<p>Piracy and torrents.<br />
Most of the PC gamers I know don&#8217;t actually pay for their games. Obviously a lot do pay, I don&#8217;t mean to stereotype but I think the devs have a safer bet of return on consoles.</p>
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		By: Ricoh123		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ricoh123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242707&quot;&gt;Alex Serrano&lt;/a&gt;.

Because shovelware sells very very well on PCs. 

Triple a games sell way better on consoles. 

PC gamers are mostly under the impression that the top new games look better, run better and sell better on PC. 

This really isnt the case.  A minority of people own PCs powerful enough to make games look better on PC, many top new games have problems on PCs, and they simply don&#039;t sell better on PCs, not to mention the very best exclusives never even get released on PC. 

PC gamers get sold on an illusion of what PC gaming is all about in many cases. Not to say PC gaming is rubbish, far from it, it&#039;s just not all it&#039;s cracked up to be. PC fanboys then defend it to high heavens, just the same as any fanboy does. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242707">Alex Serrano</a>.</p>
<p>Because shovelware sells very very well on PCs. </p>
<p>Triple a games sell way better on consoles. </p>
<p>PC gamers are mostly under the impression that the top new games look better, run better and sell better on PC. </p>
<p>This really isnt the case.  A minority of people own PCs powerful enough to make games look better on PC, many top new games have problems on PCs, and they simply don&#8217;t sell better on PCs, not to mention the very best exclusives never even get released on PC. </p>
<p>PC gamers get sold on an illusion of what PC gaming is all about in many cases. Not to say PC gaming is rubbish, far from it, it&#8217;s just not all it&#8217;s cracked up to be. PC fanboys then defend it to high heavens, just the same as any fanboy does. </p>
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		By: MrKmal10		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrKmal10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242677&quot;&gt;Psionicinversion&lt;/a&gt;.

But wether or not it GPGPU already exist on PC is not the question. The question is that developpers need to use it on PS4 as it has a powerful GPU compared to Xbox One. But the thing is tapping on GPGPU is not as simple as that. So Developpers from naughtyDogs  (ICeTeam) are showing others devellopers how this can be done. As a matter of fact, recently Naughty Dog held a conference gathering games devellopers to show them the differents technic that can be used. Not so long ago we even heard about the ICE Team improving the SDK to allow games developers better libraries and an easier time of getting up and running so we should see an advancement of GPU Rendering. So yeah.yeah. As the console is GPU centric tapping on GPGPU will be the key to the console performance and the gap between Xbox One will keep widening as time goes by. And I said earlier Naughty Dog is the one showing the way forward... that&#039;s particurlarly true  with Uncharted 4 that looks just magnificient ! And they&#039;re aiming for 1080p/60fps ! Because they know how to exploit the potential of the console. We just have to wait for the developpers to get familliar with the hadware to see great things. It&#039;s just the beginning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/expect-great-things-from-ps4xbox-one-in-two-years-advanced-warfare-barely-pushing-them-schofield#comment-242677">Psionicinversion</a>.</p>
<p>But wether or not it GPGPU already exist on PC is not the question. The question is that developpers need to use it on PS4 as it has a powerful GPU compared to Xbox One. But the thing is tapping on GPGPU is not as simple as that. So Developpers from naughtyDogs  (ICeTeam) are showing others devellopers how this can be done. As a matter of fact, recently Naughty Dog held a conference gathering games devellopers to show them the differents technic that can be used. Not so long ago we even heard about the ICE Team improving the SDK to allow games developers better libraries and an easier time of getting up and running so we should see an advancement of GPU Rendering. So yeah.yeah. As the console is GPU centric tapping on GPGPU will be the key to the console performance and the gap between Xbox One will keep widening as time goes by. And I said earlier Naughty Dog is the one showing the way forward&#8230; that&#8217;s particurlarly true  with Uncharted 4 that looks just magnificient ! And they&#8217;re aiming for 1080p/60fps ! Because they know how to exploit the potential of the console. We just have to wait for the developpers to get familliar with the hadware to see great things. It&#8217;s just the beginning.</p>
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		By: Alex Serrano		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Serrano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2014 04:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please explain this to me...i know pc has the greatest fan base but why is it  that developers pay more attention to consoles?]]></description>
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