I agree with you and sincerely hope Obsidian makes the next Fallout but I think Bethesda will most likely go for the lowest common denominator and make another game with lotsa cool esplostions so they can mak kool trayler so lotsa ppl buy knew game for xboxONE cuz its so Kool.

Amazing, legit games have been so hard to find these days, not just RPG’s but most game in general. I think because the really smart games that used to be so niche didn’t really have higher expectations because gaming wasn’t popular enough yet. Then somebody figured out how to cash in on the Call of Duty and so the end of gaming began, not just for the shooter genre but others as well. Maybe with next gen we will see a renaissance of games meant for gamers who appreciate games as a great art form and not spoiled brats who expect a cake walk in terms of gameplay and kindergarten storylines.

I honestly don’t even think you played FO:NV. I spent about 40 hours playing FO:3 which was a good game. I spent 90 Hours with FO: New Vegas, which was far superior in pretty much every way that matters in an RPG. There was way more to do in the desert wasteland of FO:NV than there was in FO:3.

I really hope Bethesda contracts Obsidian to make Fallout 4.

Thats what happens in a Wasteland…..

They’re usually pretty harsh and pretty empty.

a lot of people know the setting of NV lacked, most locations were a few tents or a shack, the area was way too empty, no super mutants, no enclave, no high tech enemies to fight, fighting NCR, powder gangers, raiders or ceasers legion at a campground is pretty boring, no good places to hide or sneak around…now obsidian did do well in some areas, like reputation system, factions, weapons, mods, the way they did the story with factions was good but the story itself was just average. it was a good game but overall it doesn’t hold a candle to FO3. its lacking the magic FO3 had.

i’m sure they will incorporate some aspects obsidian did well, like weapons, mods, reputation system etc…but the game setting of NV sucked, it was just too empty of an area overall with no dungeons to explore, no large building complexes or secret bases to get lost in, not to mention a lack of human enemies to fight in NV, most locations were a few tents or a shack and most human enemies were lightly armed or just had some type of melee weapon, and nothing respawned in any random type fashion in NV…much of the game was very static and predictable so replay value wasn’t any good.

Well, Handwipe, you’re were right for the most part. I actually think Fallout 3 was a disgrace when judged as an RPG and as a Fallout game. Might have been a decent story-driven shooter, but that’s about it. Apart from the elements I think should be improved upon, the SPECIAL system / skill points were totally cosmetic in FO3 and the world just made no sense, however immersive/beautiful some people think it was; cities without any way to feed themselves (Megaton), building a city around an active bomb (Megaton), a trading hub without anything to trade (Something Commons, can’t quite remember) and trying to purify water by putting the purifier at the end of a river? I just don’t see how some people are not bothered by these kinds of things.

And yes, NV wasn’t perfect, had a lot of bugs, but people tend to forget they were using Bethesda’s engine and Bethesda did the bug testing themselves, so the blame should at least be spread over both studios. In terms of story, dialogue, quest design and NPC backstory NV is miles ahead of FO3 or anything that could come from Bethesda’s writing team.

I would be so happy if Obsidian were allowed to make another FO game or be at least consulted on story/dialogue with FO4, since I fear we’d be presented with the same juvenile/childish/”if it’s cool or explodes, it doesn’t need to make sense” kind of thing again otherwise.

New Vegas world just did not intrigue and grasp a hold of me like Fo3’s D.C. wasteland did. And it was not just all of the iconic landmarks of 3. there were random encounters a plenty to entertain for example. I put a couple hundred hours in fallout 3 and still read about new things I never knew about.though the same can be said for new vegas,the d.c. wasteland was just a lot more interesting to explore.

loved the creepy metro tunnels ( although i still remember having a tough time when I first got to D.C. trying to get to GNR. aghh.Plus those radio tower transmissions scattered around the map,I just kept finding cool things like that in fo3 that I wish New Vegas had,[to be fair Obsidian did not have enough development time and they deserve respect for everything they were able to accomplish.] overall atmosphere. fo3 just had that post-apocalyptic vibe going for it that I love. it does come down to preference . the perfect fallout 4 IMO would be a combination of the best aspects of Fallout 3 & new vegas meshed together with some new gameplay features added while expanding & improving features already established in fallout 3/new vegas.

This would be the best open world action/adventure RPG ever created! Can you imagine the best of FO3 and New Vegas combined perfectly with additional enhancements!? while reducing or completely getting rid of both games faults? ok ok maybe I am unrealistically hoping for too much but hey a man can dream right? lol. although I am serious about my above statements. A marriage of FO3/New Vegas together would be awesome!

Of course with the graphical upgrade most fans want and expect ( Modded Skyrim looks absolutely incredible if you have the machine that can handle it [not that vanilla skyrim is horrible I thought it looked good but admittedly there is room for improvement in some areas.] but the engine has limitations some fans may not even be aware of? Ever notice in skyrim,fallout’s that you can never climb ladders? well that has been an issue with gamebryo since it’s inception. They need a completely new graphics engine built form the ground up.I am seriously hoping that is what they have done/are presently doing

Love to see improvements to animation,A.I.,Quest structure,dialogue,weapon customization/more unique weapons & crafting. I hope weapon blueprints that were in fo3 return in 4. missed them even though vegas had weapon mods etc. another thing that vegas was sorely lacking was random encounters! loved random encounters from fo3. like to see them expand/improve random encounters. they add immersion and unpredictable scenarios to the game world plus they are a lot of fun.

P.S. – Been thinking/hoping for a wile now that they are going to do 2 different,back to back Fallout games. Bethesda East coast developed Fallout followed by an Obsidian West Coast Fallout game ( Makes perfect sense to me especially when you think about how Bethesda can then develop the Elder Scrolls games in between etc.) What do you guys & gals think? With how the fan base is pretty much 50/50 concerning which developed Fallout game they prefer I think this would be an awesome win/win for All fallout fans.

As a side note, I played NV on both console and PC.