Ecosystem is just another buzz word for ‘you’re a sucker’.

FH2 was incredible. I easily put over 100 hours into it. I only play 1 or 2 racing games a year.

Since FH3 looks so good…i think im going to give FH2 another chance to see if it warms me up into the series.

I don’t like sims so I passed on forza motorsport, but I horizon has always been amazing. 3 looks to be even better. Gears 4 looked good, they should of showed more, they had the full demo at the booth. Recore looks like gun valkrie and lost planet had a baby.

I hated FH2 but the reveal for FH3 makes me wanna give it another chance.

Gears 4 looked meh. Hopefully it turns out to be good.

and Recore looks pretty interesting but still havent seen enough to make a decision.

1) They are still Microsoft ecosystem exclusives though. Besides, if people want to play those games on the PC, they are still part of the ecosystem an xbox console player can play with.

2) Xbox One OG and Xbox One Slim are the same thing. Xbox Scorpio would be about 4 years after Xbox One…which is the same time frame between OG Xbox and Xbox 360. While yeah this is pretty early, these consoles released too underpowered plus tech has advanced pretty quickly.

3) I agree. MS is stuck here because PC players will drop the xbox pc platform faster than stinky poo if ms wants to charge a monthly fee to them….and Live subs for consoles are a pretty good money maker to MS. They would have to find an alternative revenue source if Live is free for consoles.

4) They will never allow using difference input methods in competitive type games. They will allow you to cross play Forza with any input for example.

5) By the time the Scorpio hits, the Xbox Slim should be at least half the price of that of the Scorpio. Not really turning the console obsolete when its being made for a different market segment. 4k blueray player that can also play games, has apps, its basically almost an entertainment hub plus looks fing amazing?

No need to rush. We still have forza horizon 3, gears, and ReCore to play