Rumours/theories, yeah. I’ve seen them all. I’m inclined to believe the whole Gray Fox is Venom Snake theory, personally. That and GZ is perhaps a simulation for training soldiers on how to think/act like Big Boss. (Though the events that happened in the simulation had already came to pass). We have to remember, Zero respects the crap out of him but disagrees with him on his fundamental belief and Skullface doesn’t care if BB dies or not even though he ‘works with Cipher’.

It’s still gonna be a long way til the game is released to find out for sure 🙁

There were rumors that venom snake isn’t big boss. As Venom snake has a few inconsistencies to his looks and personalities, and the voice actor being different.

Yer. Which makes me curious on how Big Boss will be when he finally meets Skullface or finds out he’s responsible…. too many moments that’ll be totally god damn awesome, the release date isn’t happening fast enough…

That would be a big surprise if it turns out to be true. A VR mission the entire time. It is true though, that CIPHER is responsible for the placement of XOF and Skull Face at Camp Omega in Cuba. Skull Face’s attack on Big Boss’ rig is definitely a part of his own personal mission against both Big Boss and Cipher. Whether Big Boss is knowledgeable about this I’m not sure, but it appears he still blames Cipher for it all. And without Cipher, none of this would have happened, so he is inadvertently blaming the true villain.

It was Skullface who tortured Paz and Chico to get information out of them on where Motherbase is and how many soldiers are there. Wherein he flew off by chopper to plant the C4’s and destroy it all, you’d be implying that Cipher ‘got there first’ before Skullface and his men. Skullface is essentially rogue when it comes to his relationship with Cipher, he wants Cipher dead.

The only thing they share is that Major Zero doesn’t want Big Boss literally Dead, but kept in line so he doesn’t get too powerful and become an obstacle in his plans, Skullface though does Not care if Big Boss dies if it means getting at Major Zero. So even if say, Skullfaces’ own men were to also be allied to Zero and report Skullfaces’ intel to Zero, that’d mean nothing. Skullface was heading out to bomb MSF.

This ‘information’ seems to be playing based on the perception of Big Boss and pals. – Similar inconsistencies were pointed out by PythonSelkanHD on Youtube with his Conspiracy videos. That Miller in Codec in MGS5 Ground Zeroes references that “He never trusted Paz to begin with, why did we even believe her story?” (Something like that) but in PEACEWALKER at the end of the game, Kaz Miller confirms and admits to Big Boss that HE KNEW WHO PAZ WAS the whole bloody time! In Ground Zeroes. These inconsistencies reinforce that something is wrong, it’d not be something Kojima would overlook.

If Kaz and Big Boss and their perception is skewered – now hear me out with tinfoil caps. If Ground Zeroes was a Virtual Reality mission of someone playing as Big Boss for training purposes, the misinformation would make sense that the Virtual Miller doesn’t know that Miller privately told the REAL Big Boss that he Knew Paz the whole time, going on knowledge that if the VR was made say, by Major Zero – it’d make sense to believe that the VR would have inconsistencies….. because Zero wasn’t told by Miller that Miller told Big Boss the Truth. There’s gaps in knowledge that are infact known to Real Big Boss and Real Miller…. Website wise, it tells us what Big Boss and Miller believe, Virtual or Real is inconsequential, because Big Boss has no idea who Skull face is, they believe Cipher did it, not that a rogue agent working for Zero did it. Which is why Big Boss is going to go full-on revenge against Zero even though Zero never told Skullface to do what he had done. Zero will be definitely angered at Skullface and it’ll be a royal rumble until at least it’d become a possible story/plot element that Big Boss then work together to try to get at Zero.

I get you, its purposely ambigious… And no worries, were both just speculating… Its not like we know what that devious Kojima is cooking up lol. Just gotta wait and see where he goes with it, but I like the set up so far.

Not entirely correct. Kaz knew she was Cipher but he didn’t know Paz’s true feelings which is why he made that song which is about a girl who can’t express her true feelings. It’s not until Paz uses Zeke to try and destroy MSF that Kaz feels betrayed by Cipher. We know Paz got orders to take Zeke and destroy MSF but she didn’t really want to do it so she try to sabotage Zeke in order to delay that plan. The question is who gave her that order if she herself wasn’t sure that it came from Cipher.

To me it was most likely Skull Face giving her orders but I didn’t mean to make my theory sound official just habit I guess.

Okay, now I see why you think that way… Those last two tapes are pretty ambiguous. Here’s what we know:

Paz infiltrates Big Boss organization. Prior to infiltrating it, she speaks with Zero, in person. This is very important because this is when she receives her mission to spy on MSF and ultimately to kill Big Boss and steal/sabotage ZEKE. Then she keeps communicating with (what we believe is) cipher. She then continues to talk to “cipher” through calls that end up being the tapes we listen to.

We also know that Kaz is working for Cipher as well… However he does not know that Paz is also an agent of Cipher. This is why he feels so betrayed by Paz when everything happens, he did not realize that he was just an insurance in case Paz’s plan did not work, he feels that all the dedication he had to cipher has been thrown out the window.

Now Back to the tapes, you say that Paz starts to question if she really is speaking to cipher. It is possible that someone else found the channels they were using to communicate, intercepted them and pretended to be cipher. But there is nothing clear on who this might be.

What is important to remember here is that Paz met with Cipher *in person* and that is when she was given her plan… This is how we know that Cipher wants Snake and MSF dead.

Cipher wants to use Snake and MSF which is why he partners up with Kaz. There is a tape in GZ that has Paz questioned if she was really speaking to Cipher or not.