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	Comments on: Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor &#8211; Or, How Ripping Off Other Games Isn&#8217;t Your Most Ridiculous Problem	</title>
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		By: Snowskeeper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snowskeeper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 04:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They&#039;ve already explained how he got the Wraith powers. It&#039;s in his article on the Wikia, which they&#039;re helping with and monitoring. Whether or not it&#039;s a good explanation is up to you to decide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve already explained how he got the Wraith powers. It&#8217;s in his article on the Wikia, which they&#8217;re helping with and monitoring. Whether or not it&#8217;s a good explanation is up to you to decide.</p>
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		By: fantasywind		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fantasywind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In some ways the game retains info from canon of Lotr lore. Talion appears to be the ,,elvish wight&quot; or something like a Barrow Wight (the glowing eyes are their features, also Barrow Wights are capable of using spells, but those haunting the Barrow Downs/Tyrn Gorthad are posessed corpses of long dead men so they have more decomposed bodies and their original inhabitants are gone, though it appears that Wights have certain access to memories of those buried in the barrows :) but other elements are differentiating from canon a bit (like Rangers stationing at Black Gate, it happened much earlier in timeline when gondorian garrisons were keeping watch over Mordor). Rangers in lore indeed have stealth abilities (which makes them great for espionage, sabotage and infiltration, special forces for regular army :) in fact Aragorn in books does a bit of acrobatic stuff, jumping, climbing over the wall and gate of Bree behind the back of a gate-keeper, sneaking around (he even sneaked into hobbits room at the inn in Bree when they were inside, without notice :).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some ways the game retains info from canon of Lotr lore. Talion appears to be the ,,elvish wight&#8221; or something like a Barrow Wight (the glowing eyes are their features, also Barrow Wights are capable of using spells, but those haunting the Barrow Downs/Tyrn Gorthad are posessed corpses of long dead men so they have more decomposed bodies and their original inhabitants are gone, though it appears that Wights have certain access to memories of those buried in the barrows 🙂 but other elements are differentiating from canon a bit (like Rangers stationing at Black Gate, it happened much earlier in timeline when gondorian garrisons were keeping watch over Mordor). Rangers in lore indeed have stealth abilities (which makes them great for espionage, sabotage and infiltration, special forces for regular army 🙂 in fact Aragorn in books does a bit of acrobatic stuff, jumping, climbing over the wall and gate of Bree behind the back of a gate-keeper, sneaking around (he even sneaked into hobbits room at the inn in Bree when they were inside, without notice :).</p>
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		By: Collin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Collin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree that this article is poorly done. Also, how else is a company going to do parcour?  It is not like they can make some new system that makes it look completely unrealistic. So maybe it looks like AC, but there is not another way to make good parcour. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this article is poorly done. Also, how else is a company going to do parcour?  It is not like they can make some new system that makes it look completely unrealistic. So maybe it looks like AC, but there is not another way to make good parcour. </p>
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		By: Themostunclean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Themostunclean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This &quot;article&quot; is filled with so many assumptions and inaccuracies. The most annoying part is the author actually trying to sound like he knows anything about Lord of the Rings. I haven&#039;t even read the books and I know that Wraiths are completely different than the dead men. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;article&#8221; is filled with so many assumptions and inaccuracies. The most annoying part is the author actually trying to sound like he knows anything about Lord of the Rings. I haven&#8217;t even read the books and I know that Wraiths are completely different than the dead men. </p>
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		By: Antony		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 08:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Really, a game with some parkour is by default an AC rip-off?! Tell me more how we should have considered Mafia a GTA 3 rip-off back in the day. Similarities to AC and Batman are here but a rip-off, breach please..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, a game with some parkour is by default an AC rip-off?! Tell me more how we should have considered Mafia a GTA 3 rip-off back in the day. Similarities to AC and Batman are here but a rip-off, breach please..</p>
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		By: MtlJohn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MtlJohn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2014 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This article is the epitome of what&#039;s wrong in journalism. You&#039;re blatantly misrepresenting the Twitter events, in which the former Ubi dev later clarified that he never claimed the code was stolen, and only meant that the game draws on similar game mechanics. As does the Batman Arkham franchise, one of the best in recent years, as does Dishonored, another action/stealth success.

Have you seen Shadow of Mordor first hand? Did you reach out to Warner, Monolith, Ubisoft, or anyone else to clarify the false accusations that this article is based upon? Or does your own opinion of, &quot;even the way he runs will more than remind you of a certain Florentine assassin,&quot; suffice enough to tear down someone else&#039;s work with absolutely no factual ground to stand on?



Personally, I think SOM is taking the best of established mechanics from great action games like AC and Batman and innovating on top of it with the Nemesis System and unique take on the events between the Hobbit and LOTR. I can&#039;t wait to play this. Regardless of whether you&#039;re into or not, articles like this that spread rumor as fact just leave a bad taste in my mouth. Be a journalist: do your research and report objectively. If you&#039;re writing opinion, at least attempt to be informed on the subject.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is the epitome of what&#8217;s wrong in journalism. You&#8217;re blatantly misrepresenting the Twitter events, in which the former Ubi dev later clarified that he never claimed the code was stolen, and only meant that the game draws on similar game mechanics. As does the Batman Arkham franchise, one of the best in recent years, as does Dishonored, another action/stealth success.</p>
<p>Have you seen Shadow of Mordor first hand? Did you reach out to Warner, Monolith, Ubisoft, or anyone else to clarify the false accusations that this article is based upon? Or does your own opinion of, &#8220;even the way he runs will more than remind you of a certain Florentine assassin,&#8221; suffice enough to tear down someone else&#8217;s work with absolutely no factual ground to stand on?</p>
<p>Personally, I think SOM is taking the best of established mechanics from great action games like AC and Batman and innovating on top of it with the Nemesis System and unique take on the events between the Hobbit and LOTR. I can&#8217;t wait to play this. Regardless of whether you&#8217;re into or not, articles like this that spread rumor as fact just leave a bad taste in my mouth. Be a journalist: do your research and report objectively. If you&#8217;re writing opinion, at least attempt to be informed on the subject.</p>
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		By: coydog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[coydog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think its great. The former ACII programmer in my mind probably is the missing link from all the rest of the AC games.. Not one has been as good as ACII. This game looks great.. cant wait..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its great. The former ACII programmer in my mind probably is the missing link from all the rest of the AC games.. Not one has been as good as ACII. This game looks great.. cant wait..</p>
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		By: KP		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2014 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I apologize in advance for the essay. Please double check your sources before you write your article. The part about wraiths being the same as the Army of the Dead is not correct. In fact, a quick Google search shows that:

&quot;When Frodo is stabbed by the Witch-King of Angmar in the first book he is infected by the evil magic from a Morgul blade; if Glorfindel had not saved Frodo, he would have eventually become a Wraith himself.&quot; - http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Wraith

Wraiths have more to do with evil magic and nothing to do with the Army of the Dead, who simply couldn&#039;t die because of their unfulfilled oath. I may be iffy on some details but this sort of thing is not necessarily contradictory in the obviously complex Lord of the Rings universe.

Also, I think logic would suggest that a developer such as Monolith and a publisher such as Warner Bros., with the same writer that wrote Red Dead Redemption, working in conjunction with Peter Jackson to ensure consistency with the movies, wouldn&#039;t risk a lawsuit by copying code. While I do admit that the &quot;wraith-vision&quot; looks very similar to eagle vision, I also think its noteworthy to mention that it is consistent with the Peter Jackson movie interpretation of the wraith world (the world Frodo enters when he wears the One Ring). The similarities to Assassins Creed 2 in the free roaming and climbing mechanics are understandable, as well as the similarities with the combat system in the Batman games, but it is not the same and I generally feel that Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor seems to offer so much more that it is a separate game entirely. Saying it is just a rip-off of other games is narrow-minded and nitpicky, and overlooks a potentially Game of the Year level game.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize in advance for the essay. Please double check your sources before you write your article. The part about wraiths being the same as the Army of the Dead is not correct. In fact, a quick Google search shows that:</p>
<p>&#8220;When Frodo is stabbed by the Witch-King of Angmar in the first book he is infected by the evil magic from a Morgul blade; if Glorfindel had not saved Frodo, he would have eventually become a Wraith himself.&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Wraith" rel="nofollow ugc">http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Wraith</a></p>
<p>Wraiths have more to do with evil magic and nothing to do with the Army of the Dead, who simply couldn&#8217;t die because of their unfulfilled oath. I may be iffy on some details but this sort of thing is not necessarily contradictory in the obviously complex Lord of the Rings universe.</p>
<p>Also, I think logic would suggest that a developer such as Monolith and a publisher such as Warner Bros., with the same writer that wrote Red Dead Redemption, working in conjunction with Peter Jackson to ensure consistency with the movies, wouldn&#8217;t risk a lawsuit by copying code. While I do admit that the &#8220;wraith-vision&#8221; looks very similar to eagle vision, I also think its noteworthy to mention that it is consistent with the Peter Jackson movie interpretation of the wraith world (the world Frodo enters when he wears the One Ring). The similarities to Assassins Creed 2 in the free roaming and climbing mechanics are understandable, as well as the similarities with the combat system in the Batman games, but it is not the same and I generally feel that Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor seems to offer so much more that it is a separate game entirely. Saying it is just a rip-off of other games is narrow-minded and nitpicky, and overlooks a potentially Game of the Year level game.</p>
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		By: Surgeon Man		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Surgeon Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wraiths(http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Wraith) are not &quot;the Army of the Dead of the Dead Men of Dunharrow&quot;  (http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Army_of_the_Dead), they are more like the Nazgul (http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Ringwraith)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wraiths(<a href="http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Wraith" rel="nofollow ugc">http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Wraith</a>) are not &#8220;the Army of the Dead of the Dead Men of Dunharrow&#8221;  (<a href="http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Army_of_the_Dead" rel="nofollow ugc">http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Army_of_the_Dead</a>), they are more like the Nazgul (<a href="http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Ringwraith" rel="nofollow ugc">http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Ringwraith</a>)</p>
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		By: d0x360		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[d0x360]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-or-how-ripping-off-other-games-isnt-your-most-ridiculous-problem#comment-212038&quot;&gt;panatha tube&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes I know I saw that like everyone else.  The guy is insane.  They didn&#039;t take code.  Why would you open yourself up to a massive lawsuit when you could EASILY just make the same animation yourself.  It&#039;s not difficult.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-or-how-ripping-off-other-games-isnt-your-most-ridiculous-problem#comment-212038">panatha tube</a>.</p>
<p>Yes I know I saw that like everyone else.  The guy is insane.  They didn&#8217;t take code.  Why would you open yourself up to a massive lawsuit when you could EASILY just make the same animation yourself.  It&#8217;s not difficult.</p>
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