agreed!

paid lol

At least Crystal Dynamics isn’t working on the 360 version. That was outsourced to Nixxes Software.

http://www.nixxes.com/nixxes/newsdetail/20-uk/news/179-rotr-news

Mine was is from the oxford SON…

Disagree here. The only reason MS went into any, at all, specifics about the deal, being “timed”, is because there was such an outrage. Many PS4 owners r assuming it’s coming to the PS4 (I hope it does eventually), and thus, it’s a “fake exclusive”. However, the exact opposite theory is just as plausible if not more.

Citing Phil’s statement about TR deal being “similar to DR3”, just like Ryse, the game may only go to PC afterward. Why didn’t Ryse and DR3 go to PS4 too? Was in their contract. Why would Capcom and Crytek miss out on 15+ million in sales? The deal is the most sensible reason.

So, if the PS4 never gets a TR release, then what? It would be console exclusive to Xbox right? Then that statement made back at GamesCom makes sense. Timed exclusive, may just means, it goes to PC. In which they only stated it, because of the outrage. Wouldn’t be a “fake exclusive”.

Nah Geoff, the “move toward this since 2009” is about the relationship, the relationship between MS and CD since 2009, clearly being the theme of Dave’s explanation. The relationship since 2009, as was stated before, that CD (in their words) came out during Microsoft’s E3 conference, was a hotbed for a deal if both parties were interested;

1) CD would “be able to put Tomb Raider back in the spotlight”, per Dave Ghallagher.
2) Microsoft could have a beloved series locked in, to compete with Uncharted

Geoff, that makes sense to me. No need for a conspiracy (although I believe in alot of them lol).

And yes I do think there’s a pretty nasty hypocrisy in the media, seeing how SF V AND Ultra, is exclusive to PS4. And the MAIN cry, is about, in your words “What doesn’t make sense is a game that clearly started out as multiplatform getting scooped up and denied to PC/PS4 people just so MS can fill gaps in their first party line-up”……….no Capcom backlash rage?

Ok one last point, then we should really agree to disagree.

“If they say they’ve been moving toward this since 2009 (a 6 year development) then I don’t know what will convince u.”

Do you really think this has been in the works
since TRHEE YEARS before Tomb Raider reboot was released in 2013? (which had ZERO MS exclusive marketing,dlc, zilch)

Ok, if you buy that… cool. The PR was more effective than I thought it was.

I know you think I’m biased, so feel free to believe whatever you want. Giant Bomb, 8-4, and several other leading podcast of this industry have expressed similar “suspicions” to mine. But maybe everyone is biased and crazy.

Because that game was never in development for other platforms. Sony funded it from the get-go. RotTR was almost certainly in development for PS4/PC (and it probably will be again in 6 months) and MS paid to stall the other versions.

I’m not against MS, or even against exclusives per say. But to me there is a distinction between ‘funding a dev so that a game is created that otherwise wouldn’t be’ vs ‘paying off a dev to delay other versions.’

I know eventually the money goes to the same place, but one tactic just feels more anti-consumer.

Also, the way MS and SquareEnix PR danced around the specifics has left a bad taste in my mouth from day one. Phil got pretty snippy when journalist tried to pin down exactly HOW exclusive the game was. It feels like they were trying to trick consumers with a “fake” exclusive and then got mad once the public caught on and realized that to play RotTR on other platforms you’d simply have to wait 6-12 months.

Man I’m playin around. I always mispell stuff, actually by intent. Really just havin fun where I can. Atleast ur honest about it. Better a laugh, than true troll attempts on here.

U know why people hate MS? Because they’re the symbol of a mega wealthy company who keeps getting richer. So for those people, the inclination to claim MS moneyhats, is just too strong. That doesn’t mean MS hasn’t lied and bullied in the past. But it shows how, if that one big company does it, they get special treatment, even if others have done so long before them. It’s the symbol they represent to people imo. Draconian DRM policies! Lol