Actually Nintendo made tons of money on its games, it was rolling in cash during the Wii era.

No, the console segment of the industry is very much in trouble, and if it fall, so will the PC segment that depends heavily on being able to port games to console.

Mobile would survive, but is too shallow to be more than just a time wasting distraction.

Actually, Nintendo has made many new IP’s since the beginning of the Wii and DS era, from brain games, to nintendogs, to Wii Sports and Splatoon.

I never said get rid of franchises, but the industry must do more than those franchises if it hopes to survive, CoD and GTA will eventually burn out.

No, Popular and Top are the same, as it’s decided by consumer cash. Critics are just people who talk out of their rears.

No, I want gaming to return to its golden era, the NES and SNES era, where many companies made many games, a wide variety of games, games that anyone could pickup and start playing, but were so difficult that it took a long time to master them. That’s what gaming needs to get back to to survive.

Modern gaming is so good that it’s dependent on a few franchises to keep it from collapsing, yeah I’m sure people thought the industry was great right until ET launched.

They didn’t make money on the games they made money on the console. Though maybe you’re right, maybe Wii Sports and that Wii Sports Plus is where they made the money because looking at Wii’s attach rate, people sure weren’t buying the Wii for any other games, lol.

And the industry is not in trouble, because more people are playing a wider variety of games now more than ever. And why your solution to a nonexistent crisis where only a few franchises matter is to “Get rid of those franchises that are propping up the industry to make room for a company that has created exactly 1 new IP in the past decade and 2 new IPs in the past 15 years” is your answer is beyond me (paraphrasing of course). It’s counterintuitive even by your own broken logic.

Popular systems, not top systems. NES was a top system and a popular system. Wii was a popular system but not a top system. Not by any stretch. Look at the output critically and it dragged far behind the 360 and PS3 which consistently offered a greater variety of good and great games and offered exponentially more.

OK well if you want to live in a world where only Nintendo ever makes games ad you’re happy with 3-4 games a year to be released and think that will expand the market to 300 million console players I’m not going to stop you. Keep living in your delusional world. I’ve tried to reach you with logic and facts and you just blissfully ignore them for the silly voices in your head. Believe whatever you want, I’ve given you far more time than you’re sad little delusional mind is worth. I don’t have to listen to it anymore because thankfully Disqus finally added a block option.

Just one more thing: Modern gaming is great and the fact you can’t comprehend anything more than stupidly simple games is an indictment on you, not the era. Peace.

Sure they did, you think Nintendo didn’t make money on them, lol, they sold the Wii at a gain even with the bundled game.

That actually proves my point about the unhealthy games industry when it’s so dependent on just a few franchises. When you have to rely on GTA and CoD, that confirms the industry is in trouble.

Actually NES had tons of shovelware, top systems get tons of shovelware.

Nope it really wouldn’t, taking only the Wii and DS, there were more sales last gen than this gen, showing that the industry could be supported by just Nintendo, look at the NES era for another example.

And none of those free games increased software sales because they were free. If you take those titles out of the loop, the Wii had the worst attach rate. And there were 7 or 8 Call of Duty’s alone that surpassed 10 million in sales on non-Nintendo consoles. 360 had more big sellers than Nintendo and while the 20+ million for Mario Kart Wii is impressive (though also sad because it’s a bottom 3 Mario Kart), that’s a Nintendo game. Most of those big sellers were Nintendo games, meaning third party had little success on the system. Compare that to the 50+ million each Grand Theft Auto sells, or you Fallouts and Elder Scrolls, and Assassin’s Creed’s and every other major game. The majority are third party because you can make big sales on those platforms, not on Nintendo unless you are Nintendo.

You can talk about the Nintendo quality all you want (even though Wii had the largest library of shovelware of any console in history), it doesn’t change the fact their system is not third party friendly and considering that Nintendo doesn’t make literally 100% of the market, losing MS and Sony would shrink the industry. Sorry to inform you, but you’re just wrong about that.

By your logic none of it matters because the great Nintendo will control the entire industry and bring in 300m more players by the end of next year anyway, right? Nintendo’s so infallible, you’re little rambling about how games are too complicated is actually meaningless because Nintendo will single-handedly continue the entire industry by itself. Right? Ridiculous.

Not really, it’s a little less (partly because it sold much more than 360)

Actually the Wii Sports bundle was the reason that Wii sold so well, getting a game with the system is what drove people to buy.

But on top of that, Wii had another 20 games that passed 5 million in sales, and dozens of others that passed 1 million in sales.

Of course Nintendo did best, no other developer can match Nintendo quality on a Nintendo system, which is why Nintendo will not dilute that quality.

lol you’re crazy and misinformed. Attach rate for Wii was much less than 360, and came with one of it’s game with the console plus another game with the controllers, so it effectively was gifted 1.5-2 games to its attach rate that didn’t actually garner any sales. That’s why third party developers quit making games for it aside from shovelware; none of them could sell games on the system.

lol, you’re crazy and misinformed.

No, it would survive the exit of Sony and MS easily, as Nintendo could support the Industry as Wii and DS showed.

Wii was the ultimate expanded audience machine, it unified people who were already gamers with those who weren’t or were former gamers.

They went to mobile when the Wii U, PS4 and One all disappointed with lack of good games.

Nope, Wii had strong attach rates, which is why so many Wii games topped 5 million in sales.

Actually they are necessary to make sure Console gaming survives.

And if you remove the Playstation and Xbox gaming is dead. What is your point? Games have eclipsed your ability and you refuse to move on to a device that suits your smaller skill set.

The Wii was the ultimate casual machine. Those people weren’t that interested in consoles to begin with. They went on to play on phones. They bought Wiis and then only played Wii Sports. They bought one or two party games and that’s it. They never had an attach ratio like PS3 or 360 and nor near the levels of X1 or PS4. For all intents and purposes they didn’t play on consoles because they didn’t buy games. They bought the Wii, another Wiimote and that’s it.

Having those people back contributes nothing to actual console gaming which you apparently have no interest in anyway. You’re just interested in $60 ports on mobile games whether you realize it or don’t. Hint: you don’t.

No, if you remove mobile gaming, its far from thriving, and Mobile gaming is far too shallow, and PC/Console gaming is stagnant.

60 million console sales is a joke, Wii was nearing 60 million on its own three years in.

You can’t do much on mobile games, people play them because they are cheap (often free) and because console/PC games don’t interest.