that is what i said, thanks.

Its the same cpu but with a faster clock speed.

*sigh*… how can you say they’ve alread ystarted when the damn thing isn’t even out yet…? Every article thats come out with questioning the PS4 has come from some no name studio that nobody has heard of or interested in!
That’s my point people like you and people that make these flame articles all they do is perpetrate fear while giving NO factual evidence or giving NO perspective on the conversation.. Just opinions that are reinforced with ‘facts’ that come from PERSONAL OPINIONS AND ASSUMPTIONS! How you dont see this i dont even know!!

And that’s my point! There cant be bad ports ON THE NORMAL PS4 just on the Neo ps4! Because ALL GAMES WILL WORK as normal on our normal Ps4 because they have to… and ANY Neo version of the game will just have to be a higher framerate and resolution! THATS IT!!!

sad ill just tell you flat out the devs already has stated they hate having to make a base mode and a neo mode one version is going to suffer with bad games….enjoy

*sigh* You clearly DONT if you’re still insistent on that devs would get tired of developing two versions!
Ok look.. during games development ALLL GAMES IN FACT! They cater to the lower denominator like ive already explained.. Once they have done this they look at how they can improve on the game through polish! You can try to say as much as you want that how do i know that this will be the case for the Neo! But the VERY SIMPLE answer is the fact that thats how PC development works TILL TODAY!!!! EVERY game you play on PC isnt built from the ground up to be able to run 4k and 120FPS its built to be able to run 30FPs 720p the other settings come from optimisation and polish!!!
SO YOU’RE WRONG PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE YOU’RE REPEATIGN YOURSELF DOESN’T MEAN YOU’RE GONNA BE ANY MORE RIGHT!!

So if you’re hating the Neo and questioning it’s development process then you have to not be a Sony basher and ALSO say that PC gaming splits its demographic DRASTICALLY and that developers will get bored of developing games for the MANY MANNNYYYY setting PC offers because PC games will have WAY more settings than the PS4’s ‘neo mode’ & ‘Base mode’! So dont be a fanboy and just Sony bash because it makes you feel better!

we have a understanding but the other point m making is the devs will not like making 2 versions of a game.knowing that thwere will be a ps5 a few years later after the ps4 neo they will just start not caring about making a game run the best on the ps4 because the ps5 is coming.

think of it like pc ports they dont care about pc so they give them crappy ports thats my point here.they wont care to make games good for the ps4 because it will be phased out.

i hope you get my point.

THATS MY POINT!! We DONT KNOW IF ITS A NEW 3 YEAR CYCLE OR THERE WILL ONLY BE 2 MODELS!!! THIS PS4K AND THE BASE MODEL UNTIL THE PS5 COMES OUT!!!
THATS MY POINT YOU SEEM TO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IM SAYING AND GOING OFF OF HYPERBOLE AND FEAR MONGERING ARTICLES!!!
From what we DO know is there will be 2 models! The Neo and the base model! It will probably ONLY be those 2 models FOREVER!!! There is NO mention of this is the new trend! JUST that this may be the only model coming out! SO YOUR POINTS ARE IRRELEVANT!
And no it WOULDN’T stop development on the base model PS4.. Is that what happens on PC.!? NO.. This is what im telling you you DONT know how game development works but for osme reason you’re still here trying to argue about things you are unaware of!
You literally dont know what you’re talking about any everything you’re saying is stupid because you’re just assuming you know the details of everything . please just give up because you’re starting to look stupid tbh!

most people like to this of the ps4 neo in the terms of there are new cell phones released every year right.what happens after a few year the old phone is phased out and the new model iis released.common sense right?

if the consoles are on a 3 years cycle now the ps4 will be phased out it 2 more years.so knowing that when the new console is released wouldnt they just concentrate on the ps4 neo and give the ps4 the crappy version since its going to be phased out when the ps5 launches.

he ps4 launched 2 years later the ps4 neo the 3 years later the ps5 launches and the ps4 is phased out like cell phones.

the point is when the ps4 neo launches the devs will hate making 2 versions a base and neo.they know the ps4 will be phased out in afew more years and just start making games for the ps4 neo.then rinse and repeate for the ps5 then the ps5.5 ect.

thats how its going to be now.

i COMPLETELY understand what you’re saying but what you dont seem to understand is how big budget games development works! It’s not just as easy as seeing you’re making it seem you really are comparing apples and pears!
The games will indeed run better on the Neo.. BUT the difference is the games will be developed to be able to run as normal on PS4 as they would normally and run at a way not possible on the base model PS4 so NO ONE IS LOSING OUT!! Theres a difference! No ‘Neo mode’ game is going to run like a normal PS4 game and the base mode PS4 will run worse THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE NOT REALISING!
Again do you know this..? Do you work for Sony or anybody else in the Sony headquaters to be making a claim like the PS5 is coming in 2 years!?
Your problem is you say things and you allow yourself to believe them as fact when you LITERALLY have 0 proof!

you arnt understanding the comparison a newer version of the hand held gets the better game then the lower end hand held get the crappy version.

ps4 neo is the new console the games will run and be better on that system.the ps4 will get the crappy version since its the low end console.

whats worse after two more years when the ps4 neo launches the ps5 will be released and the ps4 will be phased out.