Yep. I’m a HUGE sony fan (rode out with the ps3 last gen never got a 360, and had all the other PS’s) and I can easily say that sony done fuqed up with the absence of a 4k bluray player. The system physically doesn’t look that great and they should’ve kept the neo name.
I won’t be upgrading to the pro

Man people are just tribal Crizz. I appreciate ur tone too. I just want each company to be treated equally thats all. The Pro will be good tho have fun Crizz!

How about we wait and see what it does in the real world. Then if its failing fine bash away. But as of the release date it will be the most powerful console capable to doing VR. That’s not too shabby in my eyes.
I have only just purchased my 4k TV, I bet a large percentage making noise about this, don’t even have one as yet!
People always want more than they need etc, its why everyone is in such debt ect.

Although that’s ur opinion, I respect it, but here’s the thing, the fact is, that Microsoft made a big mistake with Xbox One at launch by adding the Kinect, which ended up giving the X1 a mediocre GPU, and it cost them the resolution wars. Consequently people made fun of and bashed the Xbox for providing less than the competition. Now, Sony’s making the same mistake with failing to add 4k Bluray, and a GPU that will rarely hit native 4k, while advertising it as a 4k machine. People rightly bashed the Xbox One, and now it’s Sony’s turn. I think that’s only fair, that they get judged equally. People wanted the NEO to have native 4k and a 4k BluRay, in which Sony failed to give, so they’re being called out rightly so

Lol

I don’t see it like that, I see the x1 S as the 1st time M$ have created a quality machine. They had to go above and beyond due to consent quality issues with all previous machines and the fact the Xbox seemed dead in the water. They were the ones playing catch up.
maybe it will bite Sony , we’ll just have to wait and see.

Ok, for me, if Microsoft tells me they have a 4k box, but no 4k drive, while the competition has it for cheaper, that’s gonna piss me off. This is exactly how people are feeling right now. It ain’t the end of the PS4, but, it’s defenitely a dent in Sony’s image, big pr mistake. The Pro will be good, but it doesn’t scream “Must Have”, all due to these spec errors

I agree there is a lot of complaints. But I think it’s consumers expect too much and then when they dont get 100% they want, they cry and make noise. Same with NMS, I really couldnt see the problems with it. Nothing near as bad as Colonial Marines (last time I ever pre-ordered).
My TV doesnt arrive till today, so I’ll get to see what the streamings like. Untill then I cant really comment.

I hear u. But I’ve been all around the net today, and by far most people are pissed, cuz they really want that option. It makes the Pro feel subpar, especially since it’s not even rendering native 4k for games. It looks like a good system, but it’s missing some key features bro, gotta get the 4k player in there if ur gonna advertise 4k….

I don’t see that at the mo. Most of my friends now have NAS systems which we all share. I’m also not going to go out and buy all my films again like I did with DVD & Blu Ray. It really does seem to be an end to physical media.
My 4k TV arrives today, so guess I’ll get to see how good or bad streaming is. But it will only get better as more adopt it.