The Order and Bloodborne aint 1. party

Are you mentally competent or does someone look after you.
I really think somebody should be supervising you and making sure you take your meds.

Pretty certain your claim that they’ve done nothing to PSN in three years would be the lie.

You’re just repeating your argument now rather than providing logic to support it. Believe what you want.

Every IP they own is a first party IP. Sony can’t own a 2nd party IP because it would make it 1st party. Every IP they don’t own but publish and fund for exclusivity, is 2nd party. Every IP they don’t own, don’t publish, don’t fund, don’t have exclusively, and is owned by someone else is a 3rd party IP.

1st/2nd/3rd party can be used to describe the developer or IP.

1st party IPs are owned by the publisher. For example, The Order 1886, Bloodborne, Uncharted, Halo, Pokemon, and Mario.

2nd party IPs are developed for a specific publisher out of some sort of funding or agreement but not owned by that publisher. For example, Street Fighter V, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Ryse, and Sunset Overdrive.

3rd party IPs are owned by a specific publisher but developed for multiple platforms owned by other publishers. For example, Call of Duty, Battlefield, and Assassin’s Creed.

1st party studios are owned by a publisher. For example, Naughty Dog and Santa Monica Studio.

2nd party studios develope games out of some sort of funding or agreement for a specific publisher they aren’t owned by. For example, Bungie developed Destiny for Activision as a 2nd party studio. Bungie is an indie developer.

3rd party studios develope games for platforms of publishers they aren’t owned by and those publishers don’t own the game, don’t publish the game, and don’t fund it for platform exclusivity. For example, Treyarch, Dice, and Blizzard.

It’s arguing semantics and depends completely on which game, publisher, and developer are being used in reference to each other.

So? It seems you missed something there. I said Sony can’t “own” a 2nd/3rd party IP “in relation to themselves”. Every IP they own is a first party to themselves, the phrase is redundant, that’s not what the phrase means.

What is Minecraft to Sony or PlayStation? A 3rd party IP.
What is Minecraft to Microsoft? A 1st party IP.

What is Mojang to Sony or PlayStation? A 3rd party studio.
What is Mojang to Microsoft? A 1st party studio.

Dude, can Sony own a IP that is 3rd or 2nd party? Of course not, there’s no such thing, what makes you think there’s such a thing as a first party IP? You either own it or you don’t.

Ok, your second comment then.

“Those are called 2nd party games(IPs)”

Yes, we can agree they are 2nd party developers. But a developer is a 2nd party depending on the context in which it is used. Bloodborne is a 1st party IP because it is owned by Sony. Once again it depends on the context.

Dark Souls is a 3rd party IP when used in reference to Sony. But Dark Souls is a 1st party IP when used in reference to Namco Bandai.

From Software is a 3rd party developer when used in reference to Dark Souls and Sony, but a 2nd party developer when used in reference to Dark Souls and Namco Bandai. Treyarch is a 3rd party developer when used in reference to Sony, but a 1st party developer when used in reference to Activision.