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		By: Psionicinversion		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246428</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Psionicinversion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2014 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246402&quot;&gt;d0x360&lt;/a&gt;.

with sony they were adamant about not giving me my money back and had to argue my point for ages until he decided to elevate to someone else. I said ill just phone up my credit card company and theyll give me the money back, response was then youll be in arrears and your account will be blocked. they suck so badly. £40 for TLOU:R which ive played 2 hours of in the last few months, yeah i really wanted to buy that game!!!

Oh and i also said to him why would i buy it on digital cus 1. its a rip off and 2. i cant sell it after im done with it so your digital doesnt interest me. Still nothing, asshats. Think they wanted more sales for the failure that tlou is]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246402">d0x360</a>.</p>
<p>with sony they were adamant about not giving me my money back and had to argue my point for ages until he decided to elevate to someone else. I said ill just phone up my credit card company and theyll give me the money back, response was then youll be in arrears and your account will be blocked. they suck so badly. £40 for TLOU:R which ive played 2 hours of in the last few months, yeah i really wanted to buy that game!!!</p>
<p>Oh and i also said to him why would i buy it on digital cus 1. its a rip off and 2. i cant sell it after im done with it so your digital doesnt interest me. Still nothing, asshats. Think they wanted more sales for the failure that tlou is</p>
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		By: jayflow		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246405</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jayflow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2014 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246399&quot;&gt;Vance&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly!  Doesn&#039;t make sense to have your credit card/bank info on PSN at all.  Especially since you can load your psn wallet with money from paypal/psn cards.  Actually I don&#039;t have my credit card/bank account on Live either.  Just safer to purchase cards.]]></description>
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<p>Exactly!  Doesn&#8217;t make sense to have your credit card/bank info on PSN at all.  Especially since you can load your psn wallet with money from paypal/psn cards.  Actually I don&#8217;t have my credit card/bank account on Live either.  Just safer to purchase cards.</p>
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		By: Starman		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246403</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Starman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2014 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246397&quot;&gt;iGrowGame&lt;/a&gt;.

Knock it off bro , MS has nothing to do with this ...]]></description>
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<p>Knock it off bro , MS has nothing to do with this &#8230;</p>
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		By: d0x360		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246402</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[d0x360]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2014 00:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246397&quot;&gt;iGrowGame&lt;/a&gt;.

The difference is the Xbox system allowa you to buy content on any console regardless of if its yours or not but the person can&#039;t access that content with your login info.  On a Sony system that content doesn&#039;t check if its authorized it will work regardless of account info on whatever PlayStation it was bought on.  So to call ms and say the charge is fraud isn&#039;t the way to go because they have no way of knowing since the user used your login info.  This has more benefits than the Sony system but it has one flaw as your friends found out.  

Anytime your credit card info is used without permission you ahoips notify the service it was used on but don&#039;t expect a refund.  The refund process is done via your bank through a charge back.

Why?  There is no way for Sony, Microsoft or anyone to really know if it was fraud or just buyer remorse.  When you initiate a charge back the backs insurance returns your funds then as was the case with your friend an investigation is opened and the account is frozen.  The reason it can take many weeks to months is because its not just Microsoft or Sony investigating.  Its also multiple banks and insurance companies as well as the government.  Communication between them can at times be slow especially the banks and insurance.  They don&#039;t want to give the money back so they wait and watch spending habits to build a deeper profile then report back to say Microsoft or Sony at which point the account is reopened.  Luckily Microsoft gives you free time on xbl to make up for the delay unfortunately Sony does not, at least not yet]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246397">iGrowGame</a>.</p>
<p>The difference is the Xbox system allowa you to buy content on any console regardless of if its yours or not but the person can&#8217;t access that content with your login info.  On a Sony system that content doesn&#8217;t check if its authorized it will work regardless of account info on whatever PlayStation it was bought on.  So to call ms and say the charge is fraud isn&#8217;t the way to go because they have no way of knowing since the user used your login info.  This has more benefits than the Sony system but it has one flaw as your friends found out.  </p>
<p>Anytime your credit card info is used without permission you ahoips notify the service it was used on but don&#8217;t expect a refund.  The refund process is done via your bank through a charge back.</p>
<p>Why?  There is no way for Sony, Microsoft or anyone to really know if it was fraud or just buyer remorse.  When you initiate a charge back the backs insurance returns your funds then as was the case with your friend an investigation is opened and the account is frozen.  The reason it can take many weeks to months is because its not just Microsoft or Sony investigating.  Its also multiple banks and insurance companies as well as the government.  Communication between them can at times be slow especially the banks and insurance.  They don&#8217;t want to give the money back so they wait and watch spending habits to build a deeper profile then report back to say Microsoft or Sony at which point the account is reopened.  Luckily Microsoft gives you free time on xbl to make up for the delay unfortunately Sony does not, at least not yet</p>
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		By: Vance		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246400</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246397&quot;&gt;iGrowGame&lt;/a&gt;.

well at least they got their money back PLUS 9 months free of xbl service.
anyway, I can bet it&#039;s an EA game....fifa?]]></description>
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<p>well at least they got their money back PLUS 9 months free of xbl service.<br />
anyway, I can bet it&#8217;s an EA game&#8230;.fifa?</p>
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		By: Vance		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246399</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would think after the hack couple years ago no one in their right minds would be having their credit card/bank info on psn. I thought this is why on amazon the psn cards were so popular.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think after the hack couple years ago no one in their right minds would be having their credit card/bank info on psn. I thought this is why on amazon the psn cards were so popular.</p>
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		By: Vance		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/sony-refuses-to-offer-refund-for-playstation-game-purchased-by-hacker#comment-246395&quot;&gt;Psionicinversion&lt;/a&gt;.

damn. this sucks.]]></description>
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<p>damn. this sucks.</p>
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		By: iGrowGame		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iGrowGame]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This happened to 2 people i know on xbox 360 a few years ago. One was drained of £60 and Microsoft did nothing about the £60, that had to be got back through the bank. Microsoft then held the account for 6 months in an investigation. Then gave it back and 9 months free. Honestly it looks like neither company handles this issue any differently. If the money is spent by a hacker they still wont give it back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This happened to 2 people i know on xbox 360 a few years ago. One was drained of £60 and Microsoft did nothing about the £60, that had to be got back through the bank. Microsoft then held the account for 6 months in an investigation. Then gave it back and 9 months free. Honestly it looks like neither company handles this issue any differently. If the money is spent by a hacker they still wont give it back.</p>
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		By: Psionicinversion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Psionicinversion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah that happened to me, someone gained access to my account and purchased a game on it. I didnt download it or anything took them 1 or 2 weeks to come back with a no.... there a pathetically crap company and deserve to go down hill.


PS4 first console ive owned since N64 so looking about 20 years, have account details stored on multiple online sites no problems with this stuff in 10-15 years especially seeing as i can tell if an e-mail is phishing for info so i just delete it, PSN 1 1/2 months and that happened. Anyone who believes there upgrading there network security is a fool. dont store any of your information on there]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah that happened to me, someone gained access to my account and purchased a game on it. I didnt download it or anything took them 1 or 2 weeks to come back with a no&#8230;. there a pathetically crap company and deserve to go down hill.</p>
<p>PS4 first console ive owned since N64 so looking about 20 years, have account details stored on multiple online sites no problems with this stuff in 10-15 years especially seeing as i can tell if an e-mail is phishing for info so i just delete it, PSN 1 1/2 months and that happened. Anyone who believes there upgrading there network security is a fool. dont store any of your information on there</p>
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