yep dont have to build or switch out parts.better multiplayer pc community is toxic with their esports no thx.you are up grading you pc to much to make cheaper games pan out imo.

if games are cheaper you buy more.so the pc cheaper is just a myth imo.i perfer a better community then the toxic pc and xbox live just keeps out the rift raft.

Depends on what you want… no subscription, way cheaper games, full backwards compatibility, more games, emulated consoles… PC is not for everyone I guess.

I agree Scorpio is a good option for those people.

Scorpio isn’t out yet until the holidays ,so yeah,in a year. How long do you think it takes to have a board meeting to decide on a price cut?

If anyone is scared it’s you,scared people will give even a lesser s*** about the Scorpio than they have the Pro and will make Microsoft go the route of Sega and abandon the Xbox brand as a console.

rx 580 is just a refresh of the rx 480.the gtx 1070 is what you would want but it cant do 4k/60fps and its sitting around $430 or more.

the rx 480x is just fine for 1080p/60fps gaming.but if you are making a scorpio killer its going to cost you more then a xbox svorpio will cost.

maybe a gtx 1070 and a i5 4690k which is what most pc gamers are running that could do 4k/30fps on all games maybe?thats what they run for 1440p/60 and 1080p/60.

$430 gtx 1070
$266 i5 4690k

thats $700 for 2 parts no mobo,ps,os,case,m+kb and monitor.

owning a xbox scorpio will still be the cheapest option for 4k/30fps even if its $500.

Well it IS a RX 480X (or if you prefere RX 580) with 8 jaguar cores added on…

the you are a wana be and would rather pay more money.btw you $650 is more like $700+ vs a $499 console ill take the xbox scorpio any day.

Yes. It certainly tempered my expectations.

Yes no PC gamer will settle for 4K 30 fps mid settings.
But a Scorpio gamer will. Hence my comment.

Also Scorpio is not available yet. So for a fair comparison I would use a similarly unavailable gtx 1160 vs Scorpio.
Considering a gtx 1060 is already 4K 30 fps an 1160 will surpass that no probs.

Scorpio will be an excellent console but it’s not the Titan Pascal that people want it to be.