<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>
	Comments on: The Other Side of the Coin: Mass Effect 3&#8217;s Ending Is Not That Bad	</title>
	<atom:link href="https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad</link>
	<description>Get a Bolt of Gaming Now!</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:31:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>
	hourly	</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>
	1	</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4</generator>
	<item>
		<title>
		By: magnetite		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-191483</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[magnetite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gamingbolt.com/?p=132245#comment-191483</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184485&quot;&gt;guy&lt;/a&gt;.

People only see the last 5 minutes as the ending. However, if you take the game as a whole, it can play out differently. 



There&#039;s a lot more than A,B C or 16 different variations if you view the entire game as the ending. By not having everyone live during the suicide mission, you have potentially 12 different ways the game as a whole can play out. You won&#039;t get to do Grunt&#039;s, Samara&#039;s, or Jack&#039;s mission (or any other squadmate for that matter), if they didn&#039;t survive the SM.


However, people are too close minded to view the game from this angle. They only see the last 5 minutes as the ending, and probably expected a LOTR Return of the King type epilogue finale which shows you how every single choice and every single character lived happily ever after. I tell you, with a game this size, and the hundreds of different choices, you&#039;re looking at a 10+ hour epilogue. Most people don&#039;t want to sit through that. 



So instead of getting a 10 hour epilogue at the end, they made it so the entire game was the ending. 



They didn&#039;t promise people war asset cinematics. Although, if people wanted spoon-fed action sequences, then this game isn&#039;t clearly for them.


If these so-called fans really were fans of the game, they wouldn&#039;t call these people a bunch of liars and such. You&#039;d stick with them and keep buying their stuff. Honestly, one bad apple isn&#039;t going to ruin the entire game for you is it?


PS--Starchild is Harbinger. I figured that out by actually playing the game and paying attention..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184485">guy</a>.</p>
<p>People only see the last 5 minutes as the ending. However, if you take the game as a whole, it can play out differently. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot more than A,B C or 16 different variations if you view the entire game as the ending. By not having everyone live during the suicide mission, you have potentially 12 different ways the game as a whole can play out. You won&#8217;t get to do Grunt&#8217;s, Samara&#8217;s, or Jack&#8217;s mission (or any other squadmate for that matter), if they didn&#8217;t survive the SM.</p>
<p>However, people are too close minded to view the game from this angle. They only see the last 5 minutes as the ending, and probably expected a LOTR Return of the King type epilogue finale which shows you how every single choice and every single character lived happily ever after. I tell you, with a game this size, and the hundreds of different choices, you&#8217;re looking at a 10+ hour epilogue. Most people don&#8217;t want to sit through that. </p>
<p>So instead of getting a 10 hour epilogue at the end, they made it so the entire game was the ending. </p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t promise people war asset cinematics. Although, if people wanted spoon-fed action sequences, then this game isn&#8217;t clearly for them.</p>
<p>If these so-called fans really were fans of the game, they wouldn&#8217;t call these people a bunch of liars and such. You&#8217;d stick with them and keep buying their stuff. Honestly, one bad apple isn&#8217;t going to ruin the entire game for you is it?</p>
<p>PS&#8211;Starchild is Harbinger. I figured that out by actually playing the game and paying attention..</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Andrew Suhrer		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-185689</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Suhrer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gamingbolt.com/?p=132245#comment-185689</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t stand the ending even with the EC. Until we get at the very least a victory in refusal or a reunion in destroy, I&#039;m not going to buy any DLC or support any Bioware products. Anyone could pull a better ending out of their asses than what professional writers gave us. I thought money would out weigh artistic integrity. Everyone who hated the ending isn&#039;t going to want to get attached to a new hero after seeing what happened to Shepard! Halo 3 did a better job of ending one story ark, while leaving it open for another. Plus boss fights are too Video Game-y? They had boss fights in both ME 1 &#038; 2! I hope this isn&#039;t over, but I&#039;m not coming back with the way thing are now. I&#039;m sure as hell not getting ME4 if I still don&#039;t like the ending of ME3. I&#039;ve moved on to other games and don&#039;t see myself coming back with the way Bioware is acting. I hope they do redeem themselves, but until then I&#039;m out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stand the ending even with the EC. Until we get at the very least a victory in refusal or a reunion in destroy, I&#8217;m not going to buy any DLC or support any Bioware products. Anyone could pull a better ending out of their asses than what professional writers gave us. I thought money would out weigh artistic integrity. Everyone who hated the ending isn&#8217;t going to want to get attached to a new hero after seeing what happened to Shepard! Halo 3 did a better job of ending one story ark, while leaving it open for another. Plus boss fights are too Video Game-y? They had boss fights in both ME 1 &amp; 2! I hope this isn&#8217;t over, but I&#8217;m not coming back with the way thing are now. I&#8217;m sure as hell not getting ME4 if I still don&#8217;t like the ending of ME3. I&#8217;ve moved on to other games and don&#8217;t see myself coming back with the way Bioware is acting. I hope they do redeem themselves, but until then I&#8217;m out.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: vlad78		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-185081</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vlad78]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gamingbolt.com/?p=132245#comment-185081</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184641&quot;&gt;Karl&lt;/a&gt;.

Personnaly I&#039;l say  a big No. I&#039;ll see how EA wraps the remants of ME3, is there really a final twist or did they totally screw the game. Others EA games do not interest me anymore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184641">Karl</a>.</p>
<p>Personnaly I&#8217;l say  a big No. I&#8217;ll see how EA wraps the remants of ME3, is there really a final twist or did they totally screw the game. Others EA games do not interest me anymore.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: samson		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184855</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[samson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gamingbolt.com/?p=132245#comment-184855</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Whilst i don&#039;t agree with how Bioware chose to cap off the Mass effect trilogy in 3 i do recognize the games brilliance. Sure the last few minutes of the games anti-climatic ending sort of nullified the whole experience, but it isn&#039;t as bad an ending as other games we&#039;ve seem on the market today. I think the bigger issue here is&#039;t in the way Bioware orchestrated the ending but the fact that fans feel lied to by them into purchasing the game believing that a great branching ending was on offer (minus the plot holes). I loved the overall experience but i think if Bioware didn&#039;t promise so much the impact of the ending wouldn&#039;t of been so sever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst i don&#8217;t agree with how Bioware chose to cap off the Mass effect trilogy in 3 i do recognize the games brilliance. Sure the last few minutes of the games anti-climatic ending sort of nullified the whole experience, but it isn&#8217;t as bad an ending as other games we&#8217;ve seem on the market today. I think the bigger issue here is&#8217;t in the way Bioware orchestrated the ending but the fact that fans feel lied to by them into purchasing the game believing that a great branching ending was on offer (minus the plot holes). I loved the overall experience but i think if Bioware didn&#8217;t promise so much the impact of the ending wouldn&#8217;t of been so sever.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Karl		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184641</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gamingbolt.com/?p=132245#comment-184641</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184544&quot;&gt;Adam&lt;/a&gt;.

Lets see what EA does with Dead Space 3]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184544">Adam</a>.</p>
<p>Lets see what EA does with Dead Space 3</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Drew		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184620</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gamingbolt.com/?p=132245#comment-184620</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184549&quot;&gt;Sikozu&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;This commonly vocalized desire to just throw the baby out with
the bath water is nonsensical to me.&quot;

The bigger picture is that the ending is viewed as a culmination of all things Bioware over the last half a decade, which has been considered to be on the decline. I think you should realize that there a lot of people that don&#039;t consider what led up to those last 15 minutes to be quite as &quot;excellent&quot; as some want to state as a given.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184549">Sikozu</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;This commonly vocalized desire to just throw the baby out with<br />
the bath water is nonsensical to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>The bigger picture is that the ending is viewed as a culmination of all things Bioware over the last half a decade, which has been considered to be on the decline. I think you should realize that there a lot of people that don&#8217;t consider what led up to those last 15 minutes to be quite as &#8220;excellent&#8221; as some want to state as a given.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Drew		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184619</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gamingbolt.com/?p=132245#comment-184619</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184592&quot;&gt;Dylan&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;didn&#039;t realize people were still complaining about the ending.&quot;
It&#039;s the start of a new year and people are reflecting on the previous. Gamingbolt brought it up with this opine, it&#039;s not a news report on something current happening. Unless you think &quot;feeling the same way about it&quot; is the same as &quot;still complaining&quot;, I don&#039;t think the interest in the game is anywhere near what it was when it was new.

&quot;If you judge the whole trilogy based off the last 10minutes of the original ending&quot;

The amount of time it takes to ruin a story is not something that involves a formula that calculates in how much of the story existed. Endings are a big deal, they carry with them weight and in almost all stories, regardless of the medium, the ending is going to be relatively short to the entirety of the story. Good writers use endings to make a statement, ask a question, reiterate a point or to just blow people out of their socks. Bad writers slap together something for the sake of &quot;Okay, I can stop writing now. Phew&quot; or &quot;Let&#039;s do something out of left field for the sake of getting people talking because any publicity is good publicity.&quot; 

That&#039;s how I would feel if I really did think the last 10 minutes ruined it but not what I think, I think the whole third game was a misstep.

&quot;A true fan of Mass Effect wouldn&#039;t go from love to hate on the whole 
series based off 10min out of 90+ hours. I know this cause I&#039;m a true 
fan of the series. &quot;

Your basis of knowing what something is, is that you&#039;re one? How can you be sure of anything with that logic?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184592">Dylan</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;didn&#8217;t realize people were still complaining about the ending.&#8221;<br />
It&#8217;s the start of a new year and people are reflecting on the previous. Gamingbolt brought it up with this opine, it&#8217;s not a news report on something current happening. Unless you think &#8220;feeling the same way about it&#8221; is the same as &#8220;still complaining&#8221;, I don&#8217;t think the interest in the game is anywhere near what it was when it was new.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you judge the whole trilogy based off the last 10minutes of the original ending&#8221;</p>
<p>The amount of time it takes to ruin a story is not something that involves a formula that calculates in how much of the story existed. Endings are a big deal, they carry with them weight and in almost all stories, regardless of the medium, the ending is going to be relatively short to the entirety of the story. Good writers use endings to make a statement, ask a question, reiterate a point or to just blow people out of their socks. Bad writers slap together something for the sake of &#8220;Okay, I can stop writing now. Phew&#8221; or &#8220;Let&#8217;s do something out of left field for the sake of getting people talking because any publicity is good publicity.&#8221; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s how I would feel if I really did think the last 10 minutes ruined it but not what I think, I think the whole third game was a misstep.</p>
<p>&#8220;A true fan of Mass Effect wouldn&#8217;t go from love to hate on the whole<br />
series based off 10min out of 90+ hours. I know this cause I&#8217;m a true<br />
fan of the series. &#8221;</p>
<p>Your basis of knowing what something is, is that you&#8217;re one? How can you be sure of anything with that logic?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Drew		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184616</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gamingbolt.com/?p=132245#comment-184616</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184530&quot;&gt;VulpesRex&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Of course, my hope is that this last ME3 DLC will prove the 
Indoctrination Theory correct, blow our collective minds, and allow 
Bioware to wrest the storytelling crown back&quot;

A.) I don&#039;t think they ever really had it. There are other companies that have always been better story tellers, Bioware was just the only company that balanced competent writing and competent software. Bioware, especially pre-EA days, are very underrated in the game design department, while also overrated in the game writing department.

B.) I think the ship has sailed on Indoctrination Theory. A lot of what people argued, unsuccessfully in my opinion, about what would have made it so great (&quot;They played with our minds duuuuuuuude! We were the indoctrinated, it&#039;s like a big meta thing and like wow man, it&#039;s like duuuuude!&quot;) would have required getting something out about it a heck of a lot quicker than now and certainly not as a paid DLC after two other lack luster DLCs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184530">VulpesRex</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Of course, my hope is that this last ME3 DLC will prove the<br />
Indoctrination Theory correct, blow our collective minds, and allow<br />
Bioware to wrest the storytelling crown back&#8221;</p>
<p>A.) I don&#8217;t think they ever really had it. There are other companies that have always been better story tellers, Bioware was just the only company that balanced competent writing and competent software. Bioware, especially pre-EA days, are very underrated in the game design department, while also overrated in the game writing department.</p>
<p>B.) I think the ship has sailed on Indoctrination Theory. A lot of what people argued, unsuccessfully in my opinion, about what would have made it so great (&#8220;They played with our minds duuuuuuuude! We were the indoctrinated, it&#8217;s like a big meta thing and like wow man, it&#8217;s like duuuuude!&#8221;) would have required getting something out about it a heck of a lot quicker than now and certainly not as a paid DLC after two other lack luster DLCs.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Dylan		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184592</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dylan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gamingbolt.com/?p=132245#comment-184592</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Good article, didn&#039;t realize people were still complaining about the ending. Y&#039;all should probably stop wasting so much of your time focused on something you feel so negative about. Ok you don&#039;t like Mass Effect 3 ending &#038; hate Bioware for it. Well thats cool go play something else, while we wait for Dragon Age 3. If you judge the whole trilogy based off the last 10minutes of the original ending, which Bioware didn&#039;t have to fix, then your not a fan of Mass Effect so why are you even talking. A true fan of Mass Effect wouldn&#039;t go from love to hate on the whole series based off 10min out of 90+ hours. I know this cause I&#039;m a true fan of the series. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, didn&#8217;t realize people were still complaining about the ending. Y&#8217;all should probably stop wasting so much of your time focused on something you feel so negative about. Ok you don&#8217;t like Mass Effect 3 ending &amp; hate Bioware for it. Well thats cool go play something else, while we wait for Dragon Age 3. If you judge the whole trilogy based off the last 10minutes of the original ending, which Bioware didn&#8217;t have to fix, then your not a fan of Mass Effect so why are you even talking. A true fan of Mass Effect wouldn&#8217;t go from love to hate on the whole series based off 10min out of 90+ hours. I know this cause I&#8217;m a true fan of the series. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Sikozu		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/the-other-side-of-the-coin-mass-effect-3s-ending-is-not-that-bad#comment-184549</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sikozu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 05:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gamingbolt.com/?p=132245#comment-184549</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for articulating this so well. I&#039;m a long
time Bioware fan and an almost obsessive fan of the Mass Effect universe in
particular. I was extremely disappointed by the last 10 or 15 minutes of the
game for all the reasons you stated. However, all of the excellent content up
to that point mitigated any wrath I might have felt along with my
disappointment. Bioware is a company full of talented human beings, but not
perfect ones. Over the years they have consistently given us great games. All
of these people, with their extreme belligerence toward Bioware, seem to have
forgotten all that came before that last 15 minutes. People make mistakes, it&#039;s
not apocolyptic. This commonly vocalized desire to just throw the baby out with
the bath water is nonsensical to me. I personally can&#039;t wait to see what
Bioware will bring us next; I believe they will use all of this feedback and
make an excellent comeback.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for articulating this so well. I&#8217;m a long<br />
time Bioware fan and an almost obsessive fan of the Mass Effect universe in<br />
particular. I was extremely disappointed by the last 10 or 15 minutes of the<br />
game for all the reasons you stated. However, all of the excellent content up<br />
to that point mitigated any wrath I might have felt along with my<br />
disappointment. Bioware is a company full of talented human beings, but not<br />
perfect ones. Over the years they have consistently given us great games. All<br />
of these people, with their extreme belligerence toward Bioware, seem to have<br />
forgotten all that came before that last 15 minutes. People make mistakes, it&#8217;s<br />
not apocolyptic. This commonly vocalized desire to just throw the baby out with<br />
the bath water is nonsensical to me. I personally can&#8217;t wait to see what<br />
Bioware will bring us next; I believe they will use all of this feedback and<br />
make an excellent comeback.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
