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		By: Graeme Willy		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259880</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graeme Willy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259117&quot;&gt;You Are Flat Out Wrong&lt;/a&gt;.

The new development practice is to build for the target audience.  The majority.  This is, of course, referring to consoles and midrange PC gamers.  If you have 1 or 2 Geforce Titans and a 1200 watt power supply, then good for you, but the majority of PC gamers have console comparable specs. Consider how many MMO gamers still use DX9 cards and XP and Vista. The high end PC gamers, however, will be able to take that experience to new heights, utilizing that power for pushing more pixels and filtering and increased tessellation, lighting/ shadowing...provided they know how to tweak those settings in the games.  Not all PC games are up front with those settings. In older times, it seemed multiplatform games were catering to high end PC builds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259117">You Are Flat Out Wrong</a>.</p>
<p>The new development practice is to build for the target audience.  The majority.  This is, of course, referring to consoles and midrange PC gamers.  If you have 1 or 2 Geforce Titans and a 1200 watt power supply, then good for you, but the majority of PC gamers have console comparable specs. Consider how many MMO gamers still use DX9 cards and XP and Vista. The high end PC gamers, however, will be able to take that experience to new heights, utilizing that power for pushing more pixels and filtering and increased tessellation, lighting/ shadowing&#8230;provided they know how to tweak those settings in the games.  Not all PC games are up front with those settings. In older times, it seemed multiplatform games were catering to high end PC builds.</p>
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		By: Jason Mounce		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Mounce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2015 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259328&quot;&gt;The Truth&lt;/a&gt;.

As ironic as a complainer complaining about someones&#039; complaining.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259328">The Truth</a>.</p>
<p>As ironic as a complainer complaining about someones&#8217; complaining.</p>
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		By: The Truth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2015 00:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259150&quot;&gt;Jason Mounce&lt;/a&gt;.

there you go being all negative and rude again]]></description>
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<p>there you go being all negative and rude again</p>
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		By: Icaraeus		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259249</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Icaraeus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2015 13:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259119&quot;&gt;You Are Flat Out Wrong&lt;/a&gt;.

Nope TW3 is high settings on PS4.]]></description>
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<p>Nope TW3 is high settings on PS4.</p>
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		By: Jason Mounce		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Mounce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259146&quot;&gt;You Are Flat Out Wrong&lt;/a&gt;.

You seem to be evading the logic entirely and are trying to simplify it down to something bare-bone that you can comprehend. Sorry if my post went over your head a bit, it can&#039;t be boiled down as easily as you just tried.

You did give me a laugh though. &#039;I&#039;m&#039; the ignorant one? Lol. Oh aye, keep living the dream that your refusal to accept &#039;Publisher Shovel&#039; is you fighting the good fight and that your hate-mongering and superstitious behaviour is Justifiable because it&#039;s fuelled by righteous consumerism that don&#039;t take no crap from no big company!

Anti-Consumer practices are not exclusive to one platform over another. They are an industry, macro and micro-sized problem, they are everywhere and you will be manipulated by every conceivable business in every conceivable market in order to support the capitalist market that we&#039;re in.

&#039;All&#039; Platform owners promote &#039;Anti-Consumer&#039; and DLC-problematic issues by supporting games that have Season Passes (That are not a Console Exclusive issue, where most of them aren&#039;t worth the price due to meh content) minus very few exceptions.

Trying to make it sound like the PC market knows what&#039;s going on and do everything to evade supporting &#039;Anti-Consumer&#039; anything is laughable, you claim me ignorant, but you yourself are simply ignorant of your own ignorance. One could already claim Steam and Valve are hurting the industry via their monopolization, and yet all I see are Lord Gaben-this and that and turning a blind eye due to the Sales they throw at you. There&#039;s nothing that I&#039;m really ignorant about, I choose my purchases carefully.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259146">You Are Flat Out Wrong</a>.</p>
<p>You seem to be evading the logic entirely and are trying to simplify it down to something bare-bone that you can comprehend. Sorry if my post went over your head a bit, it can&#8217;t be boiled down as easily as you just tried.</p>
<p>You did give me a laugh though. &#8216;I&#8217;m&#8217; the ignorant one? Lol. Oh aye, keep living the dream that your refusal to accept &#8216;Publisher Shovel&#8217; is you fighting the good fight and that your hate-mongering and superstitious behaviour is Justifiable because it&#8217;s fuelled by righteous consumerism that don&#8217;t take no crap from no big company!</p>
<p>Anti-Consumer practices are not exclusive to one platform over another. They are an industry, macro and micro-sized problem, they are everywhere and you will be manipulated by every conceivable business in every conceivable market in order to support the capitalist market that we&#8217;re in.</p>
<p>&#8216;All&#8217; Platform owners promote &#8216;Anti-Consumer&#8217; and DLC-problematic issues by supporting games that have Season Passes (That are not a Console Exclusive issue, where most of them aren&#8217;t worth the price due to meh content) minus very few exceptions.</p>
<p>Trying to make it sound like the PC market knows what&#8217;s going on and do everything to evade supporting &#8216;Anti-Consumer&#8217; anything is laughable, you claim me ignorant, but you yourself are simply ignorant of your own ignorance. One could already claim Steam and Valve are hurting the industry via their monopolization, and yet all I see are Lord Gaben-this and that and turning a blind eye due to the Sales they throw at you. There&#8217;s nothing that I&#8217;m really ignorant about, I choose my purchases carefully.</p>
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		By: You Are Flat Out Wrong		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259146</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[You Are Flat Out Wrong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259120&quot;&gt;Jason Mounce&lt;/a&gt;.

So apparently PC Gamers not taking what publishers shovel out, lashing out against anti-consumer practices and overall having standards is a &quot;problem&quot;. 


You may own a &quot;Good PC&quot; but you still have console peasant ignorance ingrained in your mind, console peasant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259120">Jason Mounce</a>.</p>
<p>So apparently PC Gamers not taking what publishers shovel out, lashing out against anti-consumer practices and overall having standards is a &#8220;problem&#8221;. </p>
<p>You may own a &#8220;Good PC&#8221; but you still have console peasant ignorance ingrained in your mind, console peasant.</p>
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		By: Jason Mounce		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Mounce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259117&quot;&gt;You Are Flat Out Wrong&lt;/a&gt;.

And as they pointed out equally-so:

1) Consoles cause degradation of visuals but the core remains for all to enjoy. Those who still whine have problems. The only thing I dislike when this usually happens whether lead platform or not - is that many devs annoyingly fail to focus on PC mouse/keyboard controls and I&#039;d rather a game comes out where the UI and controls are honed for M/K too instead of 90% focus Controller. It obviously then gives an aura of &#039;Console Port&#039; when they do that.

2) The degradation only occurs because developers generally cannot afford to keep their original goal because they know the PC market won&#039;t give them back enough profit, both due to piracy and due to it being a single platform that usually has inferior sales to consoles. Alternatively, I do know that in some circumstances, piracy barely creates any losses like what was shown with FIFA and Lords of the Fallen when they couldn&#039;t get cracked for months at a time, yet profits remained the same for the dev.

Example of why this move is in the end, the smartest business decision is how if Rockstar had released GTAV on Consoles and PC at the SAME TIME - which do you think would outsell the other in software sales?.... Consoles would sell more, more profit would be gained, less worry of lost profit from piracy on consoles.

So, if we are to blame anyone, it&#039;s the position PC consumers make themselves out to be, this is coming of course from a PC gamer who owns a good PC and a PS4. If PC Gamers were to just all buy the game as much as Console players do, then I&#039;d easily say the &#039;Goal&#039; and &#039;downgrade&#039; would never happen. The PC consumers are fickle, and hard to predict and aren&#039;t completely reliable unless it relates to Modding support and feedback to testing like bug/beta testing and communication.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259117">You Are Flat Out Wrong</a>.</p>
<p>And as they pointed out equally-so:</p>
<p>1) Consoles cause degradation of visuals but the core remains for all to enjoy. Those who still whine have problems. The only thing I dislike when this usually happens whether lead platform or not &#8211; is that many devs annoyingly fail to focus on PC mouse/keyboard controls and I&#8217;d rather a game comes out where the UI and controls are honed for M/K too instead of 90% focus Controller. It obviously then gives an aura of &#8216;Console Port&#8217; when they do that.</p>
<p>2) The degradation only occurs because developers generally cannot afford to keep their original goal because they know the PC market won&#8217;t give them back enough profit, both due to piracy and due to it being a single platform that usually has inferior sales to consoles. Alternatively, I do know that in some circumstances, piracy barely creates any losses like what was shown with FIFA and Lords of the Fallen when they couldn&#8217;t get cracked for months at a time, yet profits remained the same for the dev.</p>
<p>Example of why this move is in the end, the smartest business decision is how if Rockstar had released GTAV on Consoles and PC at the SAME TIME &#8211; which do you think would outsell the other in software sales?&#8230;. Consoles would sell more, more profit would be gained, less worry of lost profit from piracy on consoles.</p>
<p>So, if we are to blame anyone, it&#8217;s the position PC consumers make themselves out to be, this is coming of course from a PC gamer who owns a good PC and a PS4. If PC Gamers were to just all buy the game as much as Console players do, then I&#8217;d easily say the &#8216;Goal&#8217; and &#8216;downgrade&#8217; would never happen. The PC consumers are fickle, and hard to predict and aren&#8217;t completely reliable unless it relates to Modding support and feedback to testing like bug/beta testing and communication.</p>
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		By: You Are Flat Out Wrong		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[You Are Flat Out Wrong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259065&quot;&gt;Graeme Willy&lt;/a&gt;.

Yet the problem this gen is both consoles sucked from Day 1 and Witcher 3 is medium settings and won&#039;t go further. 


Fixed point is moot if the hardware is sh*t in the first place.]]></description>
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<p>Yet the problem this gen is both consoles sucked from Day 1 and Witcher 3 is medium settings and won&#8217;t go further. </p>
<p>Fixed point is moot if the hardware is sh*t in the first place.</p>
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		By: You Are Flat Out Wrong		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[You Are Flat Out Wrong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 14:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259081&quot;&gt;Jason Mounce&lt;/a&gt;.

What logic? It was just more excuses for this abysmal generation of consoles causing downgrades]]></description>
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<p>What logic? It was just more excuses for this abysmal generation of consoles causing downgrades</p>
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		By: gabenANDeggs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gabenANDeggs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 06:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259065&quot;&gt;Graeme Willy&lt;/a&gt;.

The only thing that&#039;s disappointing me is now that fixed point is a Chevy Malibu when it used to be a Corvette.

PCs can just look better with sheer power. Some of that complexity he speaks of is high res textures and extra lighting and particle effects ;-)

There&#039;s just no right or wrong way to play video games. Play games however you enjoy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/tripwire-on-ps4-gpu-targeting-for-single-spec-makes-things-simpler#comment-259065">Graeme Willy</a>.</p>
<p>The only thing that&#8217;s disappointing me is now that fixed point is a Chevy Malibu when it used to be a Corvette.</p>
<p>PCs can just look better with sheer power. Some of that complexity he speaks of is high res textures and extra lighting and particle effects 😉</p>
<p>There&#8217;s just no right or wrong way to play video games. Play games however you enjoy.</p>
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