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		By: Lag-Fighting Tactics		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 02:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199757&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;.

We have 60% more raw processing power that the budget gpu xbone.
Your system is that weak ,  900p is the new 1080p LOL.

It&#039;s always harder getting used to a system that&#039;s easier to program for
than the Xbones slow ddr3 ram.Sony said it&#039;s easier to program for anyway.

Go Sony, sales will show we are with you.]]></description>
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<p>We have 60% more raw processing power that the budget gpu xbone.<br />
Your system is that weak ,  900p is the new 1080p LOL.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always harder getting used to a system that&#8217;s easier to program for<br />
than the Xbones slow ddr3 ram.Sony said it&#8217;s easier to program for anyway.</p>
<p>Go Sony, sales will show we are with you.</p>
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		By: Dakan45		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dakan45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-200058&quot;&gt;Yazzam&lt;/a&gt;.

I got tired of the hype bullshit i read.


First we hear that the 8 core cpu is gonna be a challenge for a japanese ps2 developer and that the good thing is that games will be optimized for 8 core cpus so they will run better on pc.


The pauperstaion fanboys understand this as &quot;the cpu is awesome&quot;


Now we hear the Warframe developer saying that the ps4 gpu is a &quot;beast&quot; when in reallity its a midrange gpu.


They say &quot;we gonna port all of it on ps4&quot; AS IF a &quot;next gen&quot; console cant handle a F2P game.


Then when asked if ps4 is gona have improvements, they say nope, there wont be none.


The fanboys fall for it but warframe actually looks worse than dark sector a 6-7 year old pc can run it at the highest settings. For crying out loud the bullocks i read about ps4. Guess what &quot;ps4 will run planetside 2 better than a 4000$ pc&quot; if that crap are not manufactured specific to appeal to dumb console gamers that have no idea about hardware, i dont know what is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-200058">Yazzam</a>.</p>
<p>I got tired of the hype bullshit i read.</p>
<p>First we hear that the 8 core cpu is gonna be a challenge for a japanese ps2 developer and that the good thing is that games will be optimized for 8 core cpus so they will run better on pc.</p>
<p>The pauperstaion fanboys understand this as &#8220;the cpu is awesome&#8221;</p>
<p>Now we hear the Warframe developer saying that the ps4 gpu is a &#8220;beast&#8221; when in reallity its a midrange gpu.</p>
<p>They say &#8220;we gonna port all of it on ps4&#8221; AS IF a &#8220;next gen&#8221; console cant handle a F2P game.</p>
<p>Then when asked if ps4 is gona have improvements, they say nope, there wont be none.</p>
<p>The fanboys fall for it but warframe actually looks worse than dark sector a 6-7 year old pc can run it at the highest settings. For crying out loud the bullocks i read about ps4. Guess what &#8220;ps4 will run planetside 2 better than a 4000$ pc&#8221; if that crap are not manufactured specific to appeal to dumb console gamers that have no idea about hardware, i dont know what is.</p>
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		By: Yazzam		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yazzam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2013 13:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199937&quot;&gt;Dakan45&lt;/a&gt;.

Hmmm, that&#039;s not quite correct my friend, both the Xbox One and PS4 have a 1.6GHz 8-core AMD CPU, therefore their CPUs are the same, the difference is with their memory and GPUs, where the Xbox One&#039;s GPU is weaker but it uses 32MB eSRAM and Move engines to (theoretically) get more out of the hardware.

I think we all agree that physics benefits greatly from GPU acceleration, and you&#039;re right that physics is not as impact free as Marvin appears to suggest, there&#039;s always a trade-off, where the more the GPU is being used for physics the less processing will be available for graphics.

However I don&#039;t believe the new consoles will struggle with physics as you appear to suggest. There&#039;s more than sufficient processing power in their CPUs and GPUs to enable very high quality and very advanced physics without sacrificing incredible graphics or framerate, either through middleware solutions like PhysX or Havok, or via the developers own physics solution.

Let&#039;s wait and see :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199937">Dakan45</a>.</p>
<p>Hmmm, that&#8217;s not quite correct my friend, both the Xbox One and PS4 have a 1.6GHz 8-core AMD CPU, therefore their CPUs are the same, the difference is with their memory and GPUs, where the Xbox One&#8217;s GPU is weaker but it uses 32MB eSRAM and Move engines to (theoretically) get more out of the hardware.</p>
<p>I think we all agree that physics benefits greatly from GPU acceleration, and you&#8217;re right that physics is not as impact free as Marvin appears to suggest, there&#8217;s always a trade-off, where the more the GPU is being used for physics the less processing will be available for graphics.</p>
<p>However I don&#8217;t believe the new consoles will struggle with physics as you appear to suggest. There&#8217;s more than sufficient processing power in their CPUs and GPUs to enable very high quality and very advanced physics without sacrificing incredible graphics or framerate, either through middleware solutions like PhysX or Havok, or via the developers own physics solution.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s wait and see 🙂</p>
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		By: Dakan45		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dakan45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Aug 2013 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199932&quot;&gt;Yazzam&lt;/a&gt;.

I know that physx came from ageia and required a dedicated card. Stil in this day its too heavy and its best used with sli, It wil initially said in a article that they might use physx on consoles by rendering with the cpu, since its possible to use physics with the gpu.


Consoles have diffirent api and pc software dont work as they are. Physx will have to be altered abit.


The xbox cpu is weaker than ps4 but considering how weak both cpus are, i doubt they will use them for physx, then again i dont think the gpu can take physxs at the same time. We will see how it turns out.


But then again marvin is a moron and thinks i said that every game will HAVE to use physx OR confused it with physics, of any kind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199932">Yazzam</a>.</p>
<p>I know that physx came from ageia and required a dedicated card. Stil in this day its too heavy and its best used with sli, It wil initially said in a article that they might use physx on consoles by rendering with the cpu, since its possible to use physics with the gpu.</p>
<p>Consoles have diffirent api and pc software dont work as they are. Physx will have to be altered abit.</p>
<p>The xbox cpu is weaker than ps4 but considering how weak both cpus are, i doubt they will use them for physx, then again i dont think the gpu can take physxs at the same time. We will see how it turns out.</p>
<p>But then again marvin is a moron and thinks i said that every game will HAVE to use physx OR confused it with physics, of any kind.</p>
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		By: Yazzam		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yazzam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Aug 2013 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199913&quot;&gt;Dakan45&lt;/a&gt;.

Eh? :) NVidia&#039;s PhysX IS software! It&#039;s a software based physics API.

Initially, when created by the company Ageia, PhysX software required dedicated hardware to run, but once Ageia was bought by NVidia, it was redesigned to run on PC CPUs and accelerated by NVidia GPUs.

The PhysX SDK runs on Windows, Mac, Linux and Android platforms, hence is used in some games for the PS3, Xbox 360, Wii and even the iPhone.

Therefore PhysX is available for both PS4 and Xbox One too. Developers could use the PhysX API for their games if they choose too, or they could use an alternative physics API or build their own.

Here&#039;s some further information about PhysX;

http://physxinfo.com/wiki/PhysX_games_on_Consoles

Hence it&#039;s a software physics API which can be accelerated by GPU hardware. At the time of writing, that article reports that GPU acceleration for PhysX is not supported on consoles. If that&#039;s still the case today, then PhysX will perform equally well on the Xbox One and PS4 because their CPUs are the same. However, if PhysX has been improved to support AMD GPU acceleration, then the PS4 would have the edge over the Xbox One for PhysX based physics.

Given that PhysX will be competing against other physics APIs next gen, I can&#039;t see the logic of still restricting the API to only NVidia GPU acceleration, therefore I would expect they&#039;ve added AMD GPU acceleration support on the Xbox One and PS4, but that remains to be confirmed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199913">Dakan45</a>.</p>
<p>Eh? 🙂 NVidia&#8217;s PhysX IS software! It&#8217;s a software based physics API.</p>
<p>Initially, when created by the company Ageia, PhysX software required dedicated hardware to run, but once Ageia was bought by NVidia, it was redesigned to run on PC CPUs and accelerated by NVidia GPUs.</p>
<p>The PhysX SDK runs on Windows, Mac, Linux and Android platforms, hence is used in some games for the PS3, Xbox 360, Wii and even the iPhone.</p>
<p>Therefore PhysX is available for both PS4 and Xbox One too. Developers could use the PhysX API for their games if they choose too, or they could use an alternative physics API or build their own.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some further information about PhysX;</p>
<p><a href="http://physxinfo.com/wiki/PhysX_games_on_Consoles" rel="nofollow ugc">http://physxinfo.com/wiki/PhysX_games_on_Consoles</a></p>
<p>Hence it&#8217;s a software physics API which can be accelerated by GPU hardware. At the time of writing, that article reports that GPU acceleration for PhysX is not supported on consoles. If that&#8217;s still the case today, then PhysX will perform equally well on the Xbox One and PS4 because their CPUs are the same. However, if PhysX has been improved to support AMD GPU acceleration, then the PS4 would have the edge over the Xbox One for PhysX based physics.</p>
<p>Given that PhysX will be competing against other physics APIs next gen, I can&#8217;t see the logic of still restricting the API to only NVidia GPU acceleration, therefore I would expect they&#8217;ve added AMD GPU acceleration support on the Xbox One and PS4, but that remains to be confirmed.</p>
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		By: Dakan45		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dakan45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199892&quot;&gt;hatem&lt;/a&gt;.

No i am done with a no life faggot that feels my indbox and has nothing better to do than look for this page that he has the link saved somehwere and looks for replies to mubles BULLSHIT every day without proving anything of what he said and being a complete retard. So yeah keep trolling disphit, i am not gonna bother with your shit anymore.]]></description>
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<p>No i am done with a no life faggot that feels my indbox and has nothing better to do than look for this page that he has the link saved somehwere and looks for replies to mubles BULLSHIT every day without proving anything of what he said and being a complete retard. So yeah keep trolling disphit, i am not gonna bother with your shit anymore.</p>
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		By: Dakan45		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dakan45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199894&quot;&gt;Marvin Deonte&#039; McClain&lt;/a&gt;.

Newsflash dipshit, consoles ALWAYS have diffirent api.

PHYSX is a Nvidia trademarked techonlogy. Ps4 will use Nvidia physx, thats about it. Now why the flying hell you think physx is a &quot;software&quot; is beyond me, propably becasue you are a retard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199894">Marvin Deonte&#8217; McClain</a>.</p>
<p>Newsflash dipshit, consoles ALWAYS have diffirent api.</p>
<p>PHYSX is a Nvidia trademarked techonlogy. Ps4 will use Nvidia physx, thats about it. Now why the flying hell you think physx is a &#8220;software&#8221; is beyond me, propably becasue you are a retard.</p>
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		By: Dakan45		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dakan45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199895&quot;&gt;Marvin Deonte&#039; McClain&lt;/a&gt;.

and you suck at being a retard in the intenet and a admit failure.


Listen dipshit. Japanesse made your ps1/ps1 game sand consoles, indians are the best engineers and russians the best programmers, most developers are europeans and NOT americans that being said you are a pathetic retard, admit failure and STFU you pathetic excuse of life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199895">Marvin Deonte&#8217; McClain</a>.</p>
<p>and you suck at being a retard in the intenet and a admit failure.</p>
<p>Listen dipshit. Japanesse made your ps1/ps1 game sand consoles, indians are the best engineers and russians the best programmers, most developers are europeans and NOT americans that being said you are a pathetic retard, admit failure and STFU you pathetic excuse of life.</p>
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		By: Marvin Deonte' McClain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marvin Deonte' McClain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2013 22:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199888&quot;&gt;Dakan45&lt;/a&gt;.

What an unintelligent troll you are bro. You could atleast be a good troll. You suck at life. You suck at communication. You suck at everything from what I can tell. If you any speak proper English then stay off of our mainstream American gaming websites until you learn how to do so. I don&#039;t even know why I bothered responding to you again. Everything you said was opinion based. Russians and Indians are the best programmers?? Lol what a dumbass. You&#039;re dismissed bro. I&#039;m getting dumber just by talking to you. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199888">Dakan45</a>.</p>
<p>What an unintelligent troll you are bro. You could atleast be a good troll. You suck at life. You suck at communication. You suck at everything from what I can tell. If you any speak proper English then stay off of our mainstream American gaming websites until you learn how to do so. I don&#8217;t even know why I bothered responding to you again. Everything you said was opinion based. Russians and Indians are the best programmers?? Lol what a dumbass. You&#8217;re dismissed bro. I&#8217;m getting dumber just by talking to you. </p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marvin Deonte' McClain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2013 22:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/umbra-dev-on-ps4s-8-gb-ddr5-ram-devs-cant-take-full-advantage-of-it-right-now#comment-199886&quot;&gt;Dakan45&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah dumbass. Ps4 will support the Nvidia Physx API for games. That doesn&#039;t mean every game will be using the Physx software to handle the in game physics. ]]></description>
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<p>Yeah dumbass. Ps4 will support the Nvidia Physx API for games. That doesn&#8217;t mean every game will be using the Physx software to handle the in game physics. </p>
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