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		By: Przemysław Lib		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-271933</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Przemysław Lib]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[XboxOne have already most of performance oriented features of DX12 in form of DX11.x (x there is not mistake ;) )

PS4 have their own GNM.

Vulkan/DX12 are needed on PC cause not only performance impacting features. But also they lower difficulty of making graphically complex games.

Yes devs now will have to think about all those things.... But they will not have that 2-3 millions lines of critical code they have no access to to wrangle with!!!

This freedom to reason about gpu/cpu will greatly lower barier for making high quality games.

Even if particular game do not get free performance boost on green hw, quality will be better. No reason to stick to DX11 version of the game if someone have that choice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XboxOne have already most of performance oriented features of DX12 in form of DX11.x (x there is not mistake 😉 )</p>
<p>PS4 have their own GNM.</p>
<p>Vulkan/DX12 are needed on PC cause not only performance impacting features. But also they lower difficulty of making graphically complex games.</p>
<p>Yes devs now will have to think about all those things&#8230;. But they will not have that 2-3 millions lines of critical code they have no access to to wrangle with!!!</p>
<p>This freedom to reason about gpu/cpu will greatly lower barier for making high quality games.</p>
<p>Even if particular game do not get free performance boost on green hw, quality will be better. No reason to stick to DX11 version of the game if someone have that choice.</p>
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		By: Przemysław Lib		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-271932</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Przemysław Lib]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259879&quot;&gt;Psionicinversion&lt;/a&gt;.

Silly. We already know that PS4 had very alternative from day one.

Yes PS4 had their own DX12 for years now.

On top of that Sony supports Vulkan at least on PCs/mobile.

So why exactly would they be threatened by DX12?

* Sony API&#039;s called GNM.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259879">Psionicinversion</a>.</p>
<p>Silly. We already know that PS4 had very alternative from day one.</p>
<p>Yes PS4 had their own DX12 for years now.</p>
<p>On top of that Sony supports Vulkan at least on PCs/mobile.</p>
<p>So why exactly would they be threatened by DX12?</p>
<p>* Sony API&#8217;s called GNM.</p>
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		By: Cypher-Unknown		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259933</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cypher-Unknown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2015 09:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259918&quot;&gt;Reddz Foxx&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s the daftest argument ever. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259918">Reddz Foxx</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the daftest argument ever. </p>
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		By: Terminator		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259920</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terminator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2015 03:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259913&quot;&gt;XbotMK1&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL as if you even understand it yourself apart from the garbage you heard for your Sony Drone brethren. Keep it up, no matter how much you keep crying, b*tching and copying the same comment over and over it wont change anything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259913">XbotMK1</a>.</p>
<p>LOL as if you even understand it yourself apart from the garbage you heard for your Sony Drone brethren. Keep it up, no matter how much you keep crying, b*tching and copying the same comment over and over it wont change anything.</p>
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		By: Reddz Foxx		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259918</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reddz Foxx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2015 02:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259916&quot;&gt;Modi Rage&lt;/a&gt;.

Why you trolling if the ps4 was so good you should be playing it, right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259916">Modi Rage</a>.</p>
<p>Why you trolling if the ps4 was so good you should be playing it, right?</p>
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		By: Modi Rage		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Modi Rage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2015 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259879&quot;&gt;Psionicinversion&lt;/a&gt;.

No, they all ready know it&#039;s not threatening. That is what they&#039;ve been saying. It&#039;s just Xbox fan boys who want to believe and wish it will save the Cripplebox 180.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259879">Psionicinversion</a>.</p>
<p>No, they all ready know it&#8217;s not threatening. That is what they&#8217;ve been saying. It&#8217;s just Xbox fan boys who want to believe and wish it will save the Cripplebox 180.</p>
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		By: XbotMK1		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259913</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[XbotMK1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2015 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[None of you Xbox fan boys know anything about what Direct X is. You&#039;ve been hyping up Direct X12 because you are hypocritical fan boys who can&#039;t stand your favorite console being out performed. I will explain it simply for you.

No amount of software tweaking will change the hardware  limit. There is no secret GPU or advanced RAM in the Xbox One. The Xbox One and PS4 are the same architecture. This is not the PS3 vs Xbox 360 days. That means whatever software tweaks are in DX12 can also be done on the PS4 and PC. The only difference is the PS4 has a stronger GPU, faster RAM, and more ACE units. DX12 will let developers take advantage of ACE units which boosts frame rates. The PS4 has 8 ACE units and the Xbox One only has 2. 32 mb of ESRAM will never make up the difference between 5 gigs of DDR3 and 5.5 gigs of GDDR5.

The PS4 had a lower level API from the beginning that is more advanced than DX12 and allows developers to do more, but 3rd party devs haven&#039;t really used it because Microsoft holds everyone back with Direct X, so why are you hyping up DX12 when it is nothing new? Because you are fan boys.

When developers say, &quot;DX12 is giving us huge gains&quot; they&#039;re refering to PC, not Xbox One. These developers haven&#039;t used DX12 for Xbox One yet. Microsoft themselves haven&#039;t even shown what DX12 will do for Xbox One. Why is that? If is was going to be a massive change or solve their problems against the PS4, they would be shouting it from the roof tops which they aren&#039;t. Phil Spencer stated DX12 won&#039;t be a dramatic difference for Xbox One like it will PC. He also stated Xbox One all ready has DX12 features which should tell you something. PCs don&#039;t have lower level access like consoles all ready do. DX12 will boost CPU efficiency FOR PC. Consoles are not CPU bound. They are GPU bound. 

Why is Microsoft making such a big deal about DX12 when Vulkan does the same? Because Microsoft wants developers to use DX12 so they are bound to Microsoft products and hardware? Why is Microsoft making such a big deal about DX12 when the PS4 all ready has these abilities? Becuse DX12 was never made for Xbox One. It was made for PC. Xbox was made to compliment Direct X. Why has Microsoft not released DX12 before? Because they&#039;re using it to force you to upgrade to Windows 10. Direct X was made to control hardware manufacturers. Microsoft leads you around by your nose laughing because you&#039;re hyping up an Direct X that was originally made to screw you and only benefit Microsoft.

If you trully care about PC performance than you should be more thrilled for Vulkan. It does the same thing but it isn&#039;t bound to Windows and Microsoft products.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of you Xbox fan boys know anything about what Direct X is. You&#8217;ve been hyping up Direct X12 because you are hypocritical fan boys who can&#8217;t stand your favorite console being out performed. I will explain it simply for you.</p>
<p>No amount of software tweaking will change the hardware  limit. There is no secret GPU or advanced RAM in the Xbox One. The Xbox One and PS4 are the same architecture. This is not the PS3 vs Xbox 360 days. That means whatever software tweaks are in DX12 can also be done on the PS4 and PC. The only difference is the PS4 has a stronger GPU, faster RAM, and more ACE units. DX12 will let developers take advantage of ACE units which boosts frame rates. The PS4 has 8 ACE units and the Xbox One only has 2. 32 mb of ESRAM will never make up the difference between 5 gigs of DDR3 and 5.5 gigs of GDDR5.</p>
<p>The PS4 had a lower level API from the beginning that is more advanced than DX12 and allows developers to do more, but 3rd party devs haven&#8217;t really used it because Microsoft holds everyone back with Direct X, so why are you hyping up DX12 when it is nothing new? Because you are fan boys.</p>
<p>When developers say, &#8220;DX12 is giving us huge gains&#8221; they&#8217;re refering to PC, not Xbox One. These developers haven&#8217;t used DX12 for Xbox One yet. Microsoft themselves haven&#8217;t even shown what DX12 will do for Xbox One. Why is that? If is was going to be a massive change or solve their problems against the PS4, they would be shouting it from the roof tops which they aren&#8217;t. Phil Spencer stated DX12 won&#8217;t be a dramatic difference for Xbox One like it will PC. He also stated Xbox One all ready has DX12 features which should tell you something. PCs don&#8217;t have lower level access like consoles all ready do. DX12 will boost CPU efficiency FOR PC. Consoles are not CPU bound. They are GPU bound. </p>
<p>Why is Microsoft making such a big deal about DX12 when Vulkan does the same? Because Microsoft wants developers to use DX12 so they are bound to Microsoft products and hardware? Why is Microsoft making such a big deal about DX12 when the PS4 all ready has these abilities? Becuse DX12 was never made for Xbox One. It was made for PC. Xbox was made to compliment Direct X. Why has Microsoft not released DX12 before? Because they&#8217;re using it to force you to upgrade to Windows 10. Direct X was made to control hardware manufacturers. Microsoft leads you around by your nose laughing because you&#8217;re hyping up an Direct X that was originally made to screw you and only benefit Microsoft.</p>
<p>If you trully care about PC performance than you should be more thrilled for Vulkan. It does the same thing but it isn&#8217;t bound to Windows and Microsoft products.</p>
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		By: d0x360		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[d0x360]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well no **** dev... Microsoft said from day 1 they are taking control away from the Ali and giving it to the developers.  You have to code for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well no **** dev&#8230; Microsoft said from day 1 they are taking control away from the Ali and giving it to the developers.  You have to code for it.</p>
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		By: Starman		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/unity-founder-directx-12-api-alone-doesnt-give-a-significant-performance-boost#comment-259902</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Starman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All articles get pushed to the next page as new ones are posted .... plz tell me/us , why you are keeping the article on the first page &quot;about DX12 not doing much ? 
Now if that&#039;s not purposely trying to create negativity about DX12 XB1 AND PC  using it ... then Idk what is ...YOU&#039;RE FANBOYING &#039;GB&#039;........newer articles have been bumped to the next page , but not this one that has been up since this morning...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All articles get pushed to the next page as new ones are posted &#8230;. plz tell me/us , why you are keeping the article on the first page &#8220;about DX12 not doing much ?<br />
Now if that&#8217;s not purposely trying to create negativity about DX12 XB1 AND PC  using it &#8230; then Idk what is &#8230;YOU&#8217;RE FANBOYING &#8216;GB&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;..newer articles have been bumped to the next page , but not this one that has been up since this morning&#8230;</p>
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		By: Terminator		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terminator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some say devs say its good and it will have an impact others say its good but wont have an impact... so which is it? Only when games start using Dx12 is that we will see who was right. Now XbotMK1 is not and will never, ever be right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some say devs say its good and it will have an impact others say its good but wont have an impact&#8230; so which is it? Only when games start using Dx12 is that we will see who was right. Now XbotMK1 is not and will never, ever be right.</p>
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