Xbox 4k vs ps4 4k
No competition.

https://youtu.be/KqZ9By31KU4

Ok, while Sony does have a good list of exclusives, you listed a handful and really should have provided a full list for a couple reasons. The first point is taste, and the second point is some of them are just over rated games, even when considering taste. This is because the ones you did list, if you don’t like the genre, you won’t like the game for a lot of those, and one of them is literally the most over rated game of all time in it’s own genre, and I really don’t care how many hordes of you fan boys try to defend it. I have managed to come back to games I initially was frustrated with and now love them. Namely Bloodborne and the souls games. I even bought a PS3 again to have demon’s souls. I’m saying this to preface where I’m going, and that I give games every chance and I’m a gamer, I don’t go by allegiance. If a game is given a 10, from my point of view, this game should be enjoyable regardless of the genre. What I mean is: If you are a gamer, it should be literally impossible, regardless of your play style, to dislike a 10 game.

Do you see where I’m going?

TLOU was not a game I liked to any large degree, and I have liked games that played similar. That means I do like the style of the game, and yet I couldn’t bring myself to sit down and play even more than an hour of this game at a time before it started feeling tedious, precisely because of pacing as well, and this happened each time I sat down to play it. I would get bored, or think about how the intervals and navigating the areas was bland in between the combat play. When I did the combat I noticed it really was not that great, it was something I’ve done before, and an 8 at best, combine the bland world navigation, and it was not something I could play for long. I played the entire resident evil series, which is somewhat similar in minor ways in terms of pacing between combat, but should be inferior in literally every way, but something about TLOU was just not allowing me to enjoy it in the intervals it attempted to engage me. The fact that I would give this game a 7, at best, means the over hyped 10, was way, way, way, over rated and this tends to be the case for a lot of Sony exclusives. God of war I have never finished a single one of those games, yet I have finished Devil May Cry and the Legacy of Kain series, as well as Darksiders. God of war never pulled me in. God of War is also not a great exclusive, and it isn’t great for it’s genre. I relate it to Darksiders. Fairly good, but not amazing.

Your list could equally is easily be responded to by people who like some Xbox one exclusives. Gears 3 was some of the most fun I’ve ever had, Gears 4 was also good but to me was a little inferior, still a good game. The Halo franchise is popular for a reason, though I don’t like it anymore, I put it in the same field as your God of war series (not in genre, but in that I like other titles in each of their individual genres more than either of these)

Though as an aside to this, my favorite PS games are definitely: Dragon’s Crown, FFXIV, Bloodborne, Resistance, Killzone, Infamous, etc. However, I will also say we have seen less exclusives this gen than other ones, despite Sony grabbing some great ones lately, you have to realize Final Fantasy used to be a Sony exclusive. Now it’s not. Kingdom hearts used to be. Now it’s not. Demon’s souls was, and now Dark souls 1 through 3 came to Xbox one, while Bloodborne didn’t, you can see where I’m going with this, especially when you compare just how many exclusives PS2 had. It is mind boggling how many PS2 had. I would bet it is well into the hundreds including all the JRPG’s. If you compare Xbox to Xbox 360, Sony lost easily half or more of their exclusive support. If you compare PS3 to PS4 they are losing even more, and many of their first party funded developers shut down in the last few years, though apparently you missed that, and many more restructured and did multi releases for the first time (Final Fantasy). More and more developers don’t like doing the exclusive games, and Sony as well as Microsoft cannot afford to pay these people off to any large degree. First party studios can only have so much revenue as well if they decide to do it internally, so there is a cap there too. Sony doesn’t have the money to produce as many first party games as third party developers, and third party developers won’t want to produce limited release games because they want maximum exposure and sales. The market here really shows we are moving toward very few exclusives other than limited first party. To make this fan boy argument about PS4 regarding exclusives as if it is winning due to that is absurd. There is clearly one major reason, and a few small ones. PS4 released at the same price point, with superior hardware, or less, if you include when the Kinect was included. HARDWARE was definitely the determining factor here, compared to the next closest same priced competitor. I am wording this very particularly, because most people then say “oh powerful consoles fail” only expensive ones that aren’t that much more powerful, offer no real use of said power, and yet are still more expensive than the competitor. It was not Sony exclusives that sold it that first dry year. Sony’s exclusive list sucked year one, and everyone knows it. Tons of games were delayed.

Yet it sold amazing. It had nothing to do with your list above. It was “do I want my game 900p, or 1080p.” That has kept Sony ahead.

And while Scorpio won’t change this, it’s for the same reason I bought my wife a base model PS4, and the same reason I said what I said above:

Now we have 4 consoles, in radically different price ranges, $200 on sale for a base model PS4 is much more attractive than $399 for PS4 Pro or $499 for Xbox one X, and, if I wanted an Xbox One S, I would still need to consider that at $200 on sale itself, it will still run most games at a lower resolution, in a way that really matters. 900p vs 1080p is much more visible than the transition to 4k. Again, exclusives weren’t really what I considered, well, other than wanting to play FFXIV and Bloodborne, but that goes the other way as well, with me wanting to play Gears 4 and other Xbox games. Nearly every game that is multiplatform I want for PS4, unless it is one of the ones that for some reason ran worse, and that’s why I went PS4 before Xbox one S, though I do now own both.

Yeah, anytime. The reason I bought the freesync monitor was that I had some games that I could not play when I turned vsync on. It created that much input lag. The Witcher in particular was really bad, and Shadow of Mordor was semi bad, with Batman approaching the worst. These were third person games in which it’s usually harder to tell too, so the input lag must have been severe. Batman still has that input lag even on consoles by the way. They didn’t fix it, however, usually, most console games really focus on the input lag, and so it does really well even without tearing, such as Halo 5 and the Call of Duty series, where input lag matters a lot. They can do even better with freesync. Halo 5 is probably the closest I have felt to a freesync experience, but even that doesn’t come close. If you have played it, that should let you know how fluid the freesync is.

If I turned off the vsync when I gamed on pc, the tearing really was annoying. The higher your frame rate, the more tearing, because it varies even more. If you have a max 200 frame rate, with an average of 100 and a minimum of 60, you’re going to be in tearing city, specifically because of how fast your video card is. The game would just get distracting.

Also, vsync has a huge performance hit. It slows down your graphic card, not just the input lag, but the frame rate. This is a big reason I abandoned my gaming rig as well. It might have had better frame rates, but it didn’t really play better and I spent a thousand dollars. The graphics also weren’t that much better. I could run Gears 4 at max settings, or the Witcher at max settings, or FFXIV even in 4k, it really wasn’t a large gap.

Now, having tested this, the freesync does indeed put the pc in another league. As a side note, the VR somehow did not have this problem, so VR games were always buttery smooth.

I’m not sure why…Considering that system is in development.

Dude thx for the fantastic info. I swear I hope Microsoft announces compatible TVs with Freesynce next year…..

Aww yeuh, a “cinematic” 30 frames per second for the win! Lol. Nah that sounds pretty good man. If games could run super smooth at 30, that’d be a game changer for us and developers!

The PS4 was a compromised console. Bloodborne runs horribly, Nioh has to go down considerably before hitting 60fps, and there are numerous issues holding down a level of cpu innovation even to last gen’s consoles in terms of innovation and gameplay, and this is largely due to the fact that the new CPUs are arguably equal in power.

We are playing last gen games with a prettier make up.

Everyone should be upset about that. When the next true gen comes out, you will see worlds you can do more things with. The cloth covering objects in Destiny 1 and 2 and prey will be moveable, instead of being oddly flapped over and nothing happens when you smack it. Boxes will be movable, all of them, instead of décor that does nothing. Objects in VR will be moveable, you will be able to break doors, and have pieces usable come off, you will be able to see bottles lined up, and play with them all, instead of them not moving in current games, or having only a few objects in vr you can touch. The cpu gap needs to happen. It was obvious that this upgrade is about visuals, and it does indeed update visuals well. It was never intended to make the cpu in a new league, or games wouldn’t be compatible. Both PS5 and Xbox next, next, will do that (I’m being punny here from what Xbox one was originally called).

I’m excited for a Ryzen based console, which would outperform these ones by a huge factor, likely by even 8 times or more (since the processors in the PS4 and Xbox one were called out to be a quarter the grunt of in i5 3570k, which are way less powerful as an optimized Ryzen core, and then 8 cores fully utilized would be twice as powerful as even that since core for core Ryzen is more powerful than that core and that core is only 4 cores. We are literally talking possibly even 10 times the performance on the CPU end, as the multi threading in Ryzen is insane by comparison to the 3570k)

Until then, I think it’s safe to do some degree of insulting of this lost gen of consoles. I think when next gen comes we will be thinking about this as the lost decade of gaming, like the lost decade of income raising during the 2000’s.

I will add here I do own a PS4 pro and a PS4 and an Xbox one and an Xbox one s.

I prefer the exclusives on the PS4, but I still like my Xbox one. For one, you have the 4k blu ray actually installed in the Xbox one s, not so in the PS4 Pro. For two, the interface of Xbox is just nice. I can sit down, turn my console on, easily go through games, and play. I rarely play PC’s due to how annoying it can be to get up, turn on, get the mouse and keyboard, set it up, make sure steam doesn’t disable the controller, make sure the system doesn’t have any issues, run my game, turn on the frame counter in case something starts causing dips like a background scan, and then getting back up to turn it off when I’m going to bed (I play in my bed). It’s annoying.

Also, you fail to realize optimization is a big deal, and first party games tend to do this while your other listed titles likely cannot handle what you’re saying as they aren’t optimized. It is not that Forza is a bad graphics game or low demanding game, otherwise modern video cards would not be struggling. I’m not saying that the Xbox one X has a powerful CPU, and I’m not saying there won’t be 30fps games, there will. However, you are being very misleading, you’re being very rude, and you are belittling people here as if they are ignorant when they are not.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-scorpio-is-console-hardware-pushed-to-a-new-level

“Out of interest, we tested Forza 6 Apex with similar settings at 4K on GTX 1060, 1070 and 1080. Frames were dropped on GTX 1060 (and a lot of them when wet weather conditions kicked in), while GTX 1070 held firm with only the most intense wet weather conditions causing performance dips. Only GTX 1080 held completely solid in all test cases. It’s only one data point, and the extent to which the code is comparable at all is debatable, but it certainly doesn’t harm Scorpio’s credentials: Forza 6 Apex received plenty of praise for the quality of its PC port.”

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57981/forza-7-hits-native-4k-60fps-xbox-one-70-gpu/index.html

Or it was Forza at Ultra settings, you know, the actual facts. I’m no Xbox fan boy, but you’re out of your mind. You need to quit it.

Ah, well it appears when I said I was getting my freesync monitor on Monday they held that in pending so you never got that. Well, bottom line I said I would test it when I got it. My other comment was to update you as I had said I would though you didn’t get to see that, lol.