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	Comments on: AMD: Nvidia&#8217;s Claim of Low Profit in Console Business &#8220;Seems a Bit Like Sour Grapes To Me&#8221;	</title>
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		By: John Pombrio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmm, remember that AMD MAKES NO CHIPS. They just design them. SONY and MS worked with AMD to DESIGN the chip and then has them manufactured by another company&#039;s FAB. That means that either AMD got a &quot;one time payment&quot; for the rights to use their chip or gets a royalty when one is manufactured. This could be PROFITABLE or NON PROFITABLE due to the resources AMD used to develop the chip designs. As AMD has been losing money heavily the past few years and sold their building in Texas and Singapore lately for the cash, so far it looks like the console &quot;win&quot; has not helped AMD&#039;s bottom line much. That is the ONLY THING that counts for AMD: PROFITS. Same goes for SONY. Who cares who wins the console chip contract or the console wars if the companies involved do not make a decent profit out of it (unless you are MS, Google, or Apple with huge profits already).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, remember that AMD MAKES NO CHIPS. They just design them. SONY and MS worked with AMD to DESIGN the chip and then has them manufactured by another company&#8217;s FAB. That means that either AMD got a &#8220;one time payment&#8221; for the rights to use their chip or gets a royalty when one is manufactured. This could be PROFITABLE or NON PROFITABLE due to the resources AMD used to develop the chip designs. As AMD has been losing money heavily the past few years and sold their building in Texas and Singapore lately for the cash, so far it looks like the console &#8220;win&#8221; has not helped AMD&#8217;s bottom line much. That is the ONLY THING that counts for AMD: PROFITS. Same goes for SONY. Who cares who wins the console chip contract or the console wars if the companies involved do not make a decent profit out of it (unless you are MS, Google, or Apple with huge profits already).</p>
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		By: Dakan45		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dakan45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200607&quot;&gt;Karl.Maurman&lt;/a&gt;.

But sony DID go to nvidia first then amd, GOOGLE it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200607">Karl.Maurman</a>.</p>
<p>But sony DID go to nvidia first then amd, GOOGLE it.</p>
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		By: Karl.Maurman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karl.Maurman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2013 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200438&quot;&gt;Dakan45&lt;/a&gt;.

But Sony never went to Nvidia to ask them to produce the chip.  Why are you making up stuff?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200438">Dakan45</a>.</p>
<p>But Sony never went to Nvidia to ask them to produce the chip.  Why are you making up stuff?</p>
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		By: Dakan45		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dakan45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200526&quot;&gt;Axe99&lt;/a&gt;.

I am not insecure, pc fanboy, sure but not insecure, i got tired of seeing the same thing happen over and over again and people KEEP fallign for it.

&quot;if it weren&#039;t for console, BF3 would never have turned up on PC&quot;


Wait what? BF3 was in developed for a very long time, what you base that on? That they attempted to sell the first bad company as a console title like the BF2 console version of bf2? Those were diffirent times, multiplatform development wasnt exactly easy. Had consoles not improve their mp capabilities, they wouldnt get battlefield.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200526">Axe99</a>.</p>
<p>I am not insecure, pc fanboy, sure but not insecure, i got tired of seeing the same thing happen over and over again and people KEEP fallign for it.</p>
<p>&#8220;if it weren&#8217;t for console, BF3 would never have turned up on PC&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait what? BF3 was in developed for a very long time, what you base that on? That they attempted to sell the first bad company as a console title like the BF2 console version of bf2? Those were diffirent times, multiplatform development wasnt exactly easy. Had consoles not improve their mp capabilities, they wouldnt get battlefield.</p>
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		By: Axe99		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Axe99]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200453&quot;&gt;Dakan45&lt;/a&gt;.

There may be, but I&#039;m not one of them.  If anything, you sound (not surprisingly, as you always do) like an insecure PC fanboy.  Not saying that&#039;s what you are, just how you sound.


As for MS and Sony, they pay for their exclusives, but only because they make money on them.  Exclusives that don&#039;t perform don&#039;t get sequels.  If there was money in leading with AAA games for PC, then publishers would be doing it.  As it stands, though, if it weren&#039;t for console, BF3 would never have turned up on PC, a huge change from when BF1942 was released.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200453">Dakan45</a>.</p>
<p>There may be, but I&#8217;m not one of them.  If anything, you sound (not surprisingly, as you always do) like an insecure PC fanboy.  Not saying that&#8217;s what you are, just how you sound.</p>
<p>As for MS and Sony, they pay for their exclusives, but only because they make money on them.  Exclusives that don&#8217;t perform don&#8217;t get sequels.  If there was money in leading with AAA games for PC, then publishers would be doing it.  As it stands, though, if it weren&#8217;t for console, BF3 would never have turned up on PC, a huge change from when BF1942 was released.</p>
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		By: demonsouls13		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[demonsouls13]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200447&quot;&gt;PC GOD MAX - Rank 1&lt;/a&gt;.

Master pc Race i think you mean nerd pc race:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200447">PC GOD MAX &#8211; Rank 1</a>.</p>
<p>Master pc Race i think you mean nerd pc race:)</p>
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		By: Dakan45		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dakan45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200448&quot;&gt;monstercameron&lt;/a&gt;.

a. Yet nvidia cannot?


b,c gaining from tablets and consoles not from pc hardware.


I think i explained that, why buy prebuilt desktops and laptops when you can buy a tablet? This is not pc gaming hardware.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200448">monstercameron</a>.</p>
<p>a. Yet nvidia cannot?</p>
<p>b,c gaining from tablets and consoles not from pc hardware.</p>
<p>I think i explained that, why buy prebuilt desktops and laptops when you can buy a tablet? This is not pc gaming hardware.</p>
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		By: Dakan45		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dakan45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200446&quot;&gt;Axe99&lt;/a&gt;.

Ofcourse it has, games sell more now than in the 90s.


On the other hand consoles need to sell a crapazillion of copies to sucseed on consoles and keeps rising to &quot;appeal to a larger audience&quot; crap, there is no balance there.


Pc wont have high budget exlusives because NO ONE pays for them to be made. Sony and microsoft pay for their exlusives, no one owns pc, so no one will pay for them.


Too many butthurt consoletards here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200446">Axe99</a>.</p>
<p>Ofcourse it has, games sell more now than in the 90s.</p>
<p>On the other hand consoles need to sell a crapazillion of copies to sucseed on consoles and keeps rising to &#8220;appeal to a larger audience&#8221; crap, there is no balance there.</p>
<p>Pc wont have high budget exlusives because NO ONE pays for them to be made. Sony and microsoft pay for their exlusives, no one owns pc, so no one will pay for them.</p>
<p>Too many butthurt consoletards here.</p>
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		By: monstercameron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monstercameron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200442&quot;&gt;Dakan45&lt;/a&gt;.

a. means amdcan survive on low margins by share volume -assuming xbone and pis4 don&#039;t bomb a la wiiu

b,c. means amd is gaining market share from nvidia top and bottom

d. is just speculation on my part

and the desktop and notebook markets shrunk slightly according to analysts http://www.zdnet.com/pc-market-flat-in-q2-tablets-up-offset-by-desktop-notebook-losses-7000019058/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/amd-nvidias-claim-of-low-profit-in-console-business-seems-a-bit-like-sour-grapes-to-me#comment-200442">Dakan45</a>.</p>
<p>a. means amdcan survive on low margins by share volume -assuming xbone and pis4 don&#8217;t bomb a la wiiu</p>
<p>b,c. means amd is gaining market share from nvidia top and bottom</p>
<p>d. is just speculation on my part</p>
<p>and the desktop and notebook markets shrunk slightly according to analysts <a href="http://www.zdnet.com/pc-market-flat-in-q2-tablets-up-offset-by-desktop-notebook-losses-7000019058/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.zdnet.com/pc-market-flat-in-q2-tablets-up-offset-by-desktop-notebook-losses-7000019058/</a></p>
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		By: PC GOD MAX - Rank 1		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 02:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Xbots and Sony Slaves need to unite, because the MASTER PC Race is going to r@pe you all!]]></description>
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