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		By: Bladewing		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2016 20:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/bungie-explains-why-destiny-is-not-60fps-on-the-ps4-and-xbox-one#comment-236485&quot;&gt;Generalkidd&lt;/a&gt;.

As a PC fan, I can tell you all that you&#039;re somewhat incorrect. Yes, system RAM is an important factor, but once you break it out of bottlenecking the rest of your system, it is a pretty insignificant factor to performance. That said, the way both the XBO and PS4 are set up, RAM is shared between the GPU and system - though the PS4 has a small extra DDR3 reserve for background processes. In the XBO&#039;s case, it uses 8GB of DDR3 for both the GPU and system; the PS4 uses a much faster 8GB of GDDR5. After considering where this RAM is allocated, the PS4 has effectively 4.5GB of RAM available for games while the XBO has 5GB, plus a 32MB eSRAM frame buffer, which is intended to &quot;bridge the gap&quot; between the two RAM types. While the PS4 will already perform a bit better as far as RAM goes, this is only one part of their overall performance. The real meat of the performance, assuming RAM isn&#039;t bottlenecking, stems from the CPU and GPU. Both systems use very similar processors, but the XBO has a slightly faster (but slightly hotter) CPU running at 1.75 GHz compared to the PS4&#039;s 1.6 GHz. However, the XBO&#039;s GPU is significantly less powerful than the PS4&#039;s, at only about 2/3 the power. This directly translates into a huge advantage for the PS4 for gaming as far as raw power goes, allowing it to use more intensive graphical effects at higher draw distances, resolutions, and framerates. Both systems, however, FAR outperform last generation equivalent consoles, leaving last gen as a much more significant hamper to current gen consoles for cross-platform games like Destiny.

That said, there seriously needs to be a PC version of Destiny. Abandon last gen Destiny versions so I can get my 4k 120 fps VR Destiny experience using mouse and keyboard pls Bungie]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/bungie-explains-why-destiny-is-not-60fps-on-the-ps4-and-xbox-one#comment-236485">Generalkidd</a>.</p>
<p>As a PC fan, I can tell you all that you&#8217;re somewhat incorrect. Yes, system RAM is an important factor, but once you break it out of bottlenecking the rest of your system, it is a pretty insignificant factor to performance. That said, the way both the XBO and PS4 are set up, RAM is shared between the GPU and system &#8211; though the PS4 has a small extra DDR3 reserve for background processes. In the XBO&#8217;s case, it uses 8GB of DDR3 for both the GPU and system; the PS4 uses a much faster 8GB of GDDR5. After considering where this RAM is allocated, the PS4 has effectively 4.5GB of RAM available for games while the XBO has 5GB, plus a 32MB eSRAM frame buffer, which is intended to &#8220;bridge the gap&#8221; between the two RAM types. While the PS4 will already perform a bit better as far as RAM goes, this is only one part of their overall performance. The real meat of the performance, assuming RAM isn&#8217;t bottlenecking, stems from the CPU and GPU. Both systems use very similar processors, but the XBO has a slightly faster (but slightly hotter) CPU running at 1.75 GHz compared to the PS4&#8217;s 1.6 GHz. However, the XBO&#8217;s GPU is significantly less powerful than the PS4&#8217;s, at only about 2/3 the power. This directly translates into a huge advantage for the PS4 for gaming as far as raw power goes, allowing it to use more intensive graphical effects at higher draw distances, resolutions, and framerates. Both systems, however, FAR outperform last generation equivalent consoles, leaving last gen as a much more significant hamper to current gen consoles for cross-platform games like Destiny.</p>
<p>That said, there seriously needs to be a PC version of Destiny. Abandon last gen Destiny versions so I can get my 4k 120 fps VR Destiny experience using mouse and keyboard pls Bungie</p>
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		By: Stoshy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stoshy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2015 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/bungie-explains-why-destiny-is-not-60fps-on-the-ps4-and-xbox-one#comment-235577&quot;&gt;tcnitsni&lt;/a&gt;.

Any piece of hardware is capable of 1080p, 60 FPS. You will have to cut corners, but you can reach it. This argument is moot. Resolution and framerate are not great indicators of a console&#039;s power and value. Stuff like Xbox One&#039;s awful and confusing UI or PS4&#039;s bastardized social platform, exclusives geared toward high graphical fidelity and entertainment, are. I own both and can pick apart their detriments. I can create a never ending list of why you shouldn&#039;t buy either or. I think I&#039;ll stick with my PC and save my XIM for the few exclusives I enjoy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/bungie-explains-why-destiny-is-not-60fps-on-the-ps4-and-xbox-one#comment-235577">tcnitsni</a>.</p>
<p>Any piece of hardware is capable of 1080p, 60 FPS. You will have to cut corners, but you can reach it. This argument is moot. Resolution and framerate are not great indicators of a console&#8217;s power and value. Stuff like Xbox One&#8217;s awful and confusing UI or PS4&#8217;s bastardized social platform, exclusives geared toward high graphical fidelity and entertainment, are. I own both and can pick apart their detriments. I can create a never ending list of why you shouldn&#8217;t buy either or. I think I&#8217;ll stick with my PC and save my XIM for the few exclusives I enjoy.</p>
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		By: Stoshy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stoshy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2015 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/bungie-explains-why-destiny-is-not-60fps-on-the-ps4-and-xbox-one#comment-235577&quot;&gt;tcnitsni&lt;/a&gt;.

Bungie went for visuals over performance. Destiny is a very beautiful game. We have loads of characters onscreen, breathtaking skyboxes, giant maps with plenty of entities scattered about, perfect lighting that compliments the style, Bungie&#039;s famous texture work, and plenty of particle effects to engulf your screen. There is no way you are running that at a stable 60 frames on the PS4. It&#039;s a console game through and through. Plus, the 30 frames limit probably helps them hide their already over dramatic animations incorporated into the game. So in the end, you get a stable, cinematic, and aesthetically appealing game.

Now all they are missing is a story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/bungie-explains-why-destiny-is-not-60fps-on-the-ps4-and-xbox-one#comment-235577">tcnitsni</a>.</p>
<p>Bungie went for visuals over performance. Destiny is a very beautiful game. We have loads of characters onscreen, breathtaking skyboxes, giant maps with plenty of entities scattered about, perfect lighting that compliments the style, Bungie&#8217;s famous texture work, and plenty of particle effects to engulf your screen. There is no way you are running that at a stable 60 frames on the PS4. It&#8217;s a console game through and through. Plus, the 30 frames limit probably helps them hide their already over dramatic animations incorporated into the game. So in the end, you get a stable, cinematic, and aesthetically appealing game.</p>
<p>Now all they are missing is a story.</p>
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		By: care package		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[care package]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2015 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/bungie-explains-why-destiny-is-not-60fps-on-the-ps4-and-xbox-one#comment-265662&quot;&gt;Generalkidd&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;A lot of new xbox games&quot; doesn&#039;t mean they didn&#039;t tune stuff down to get 1080p and 60 fps. It&#039;s quality vs. performance. &quot;Nobody has complained for the past 50 years of gaming about resolution and framerates&quot;?
Seriously dude let&#039;s get real here. People want higher frame rates and resolutions because it&#039;s getting closer to what the human eye sees already, and ya, we can SEE it. We didn&#039;t need Sony and MS&#039;s media hype to know higher resolutions and frame rates look better lol. Now that&#039;s just silly.
X1 controller is cheap garbage, based off my own experience and the admissions of others. The sticks are way too loose as well. You get used to them eventually. It&#039;s a psychological thing. MS had to make the controller different, because in the mind of the average phone zombie consumer, different must = better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/bungie-explains-why-destiny-is-not-60fps-on-the-ps4-and-xbox-one#comment-265662">Generalkidd</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;A lot of new xbox games&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean they didn&#8217;t tune stuff down to get 1080p and 60 fps. It&#8217;s quality vs. performance. &#8220;Nobody has complained for the past 50 years of gaming about resolution and framerates&#8221;?<br />
Seriously dude let&#8217;s get real here. People want higher frame rates and resolutions because it&#8217;s getting closer to what the human eye sees already, and ya, we can SEE it. We didn&#8217;t need Sony and MS&#8217;s media hype to know higher resolutions and frame rates look better lol. Now that&#8217;s just silly.<br />
X1 controller is cheap garbage, based off my own experience and the admissions of others. The sticks are way too loose as well. You get used to them eventually. It&#8217;s a psychological thing. MS had to make the controller different, because in the mind of the average phone zombie consumer, different must = better.</p>
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		By: Generalkidd		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Generalkidd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/bungie-explains-why-destiny-is-not-60fps-on-the-ps4-and-xbox-one#comment-265661&quot;&gt;care package&lt;/a&gt;.

Umm no not true either. A lot of new Xbox One games as well as upcoming ones are all 1080p 60fps. Take Forza 6 for example and Halo 5. It&#039;s basically the 1st party games that shine the best, much like how it was on the PS3. It&#039;s not a big deal anyways. Nobody has complained for the past 50 years of gaming about resolution and framerates. I highly doubt people stop in the middle of gameplay to count the pixels on their screen. 
If you owned a PS3 last generation, you probably already know about how multi-platform games were generally inferior on the PS3 when it came to framerates and resolutions. But, did anyone make a big deal about? Nope not really. The only reason it&#039;s become a big deal now is because of media hype and marketing by both Sony and Microsoft. 
Also, the Xbox One controller isn&#039;t drastically different from the 360 controller. It is for the most part the same with some under the hood improvements.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/bungie-explains-why-destiny-is-not-60fps-on-the-ps4-and-xbox-one#comment-265661">care package</a>.</p>
<p>Umm no not true either. A lot of new Xbox One games as well as upcoming ones are all 1080p 60fps. Take Forza 6 for example and Halo 5. It&#8217;s basically the 1st party games that shine the best, much like how it was on the PS3. It&#8217;s not a big deal anyways. Nobody has complained for the past 50 years of gaming about resolution and framerates. I highly doubt people stop in the middle of gameplay to count the pixels on their screen.<br />
If you owned a PS3 last generation, you probably already know about how multi-platform games were generally inferior on the PS3 when it came to framerates and resolutions. But, did anyone make a big deal about? Nope not really. The only reason it&#8217;s become a big deal now is because of media hype and marketing by both Sony and Microsoft.<br />
Also, the Xbox One controller isn&#8217;t drastically different from the 360 controller. It is for the most part the same with some under the hood improvements.</p>
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		By: care package		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[care package]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/bungie-explains-why-destiny-is-not-60fps-on-the-ps4-and-xbox-one#comment-236485&quot;&gt;Generalkidd&lt;/a&gt;.

Of course the X1 is capable of 1080p 60fps if you&#039;re playing minecraft or rehashed last gen games. Kidding aside you can make any game worthy of those specs by cutting back something else. The fact the X1 struggles with this and why you typically see higher specs for PS4 games is part of why I turned to the PS4. Can&#039;t stand the X1 controllers either. They are inferior to the 360 controller.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/bungie-explains-why-destiny-is-not-60fps-on-the-ps4-and-xbox-one#comment-236485">Generalkidd</a>.</p>
<p>Of course the X1 is capable of 1080p 60fps if you&#8217;re playing minecraft or rehashed last gen games. Kidding aside you can make any game worthy of those specs by cutting back something else. The fact the X1 struggles with this and why you typically see higher specs for PS4 games is part of why I turned to the PS4. Can&#8217;t stand the X1 controllers either. They are inferior to the 360 controller.</p>
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		By: Sloff1155		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2015 00:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not the CPU or the RAM that&#039;s hurting it it&#039;s the GPU mostly but they wanna make it look the same on all 4 consoles witch is ok and all but the Xbox One and PS4 look a bit better because of view distance and it&#039;s much clearer because of the GPU.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not the CPU or the RAM that&#8217;s hurting it it&#8217;s the GPU mostly but they wanna make it look the same on all 4 consoles witch is ok and all but the Xbox One and PS4 look a bit better because of view distance and it&#8217;s much clearer because of the GPU.</p>
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		By: Sloff1155		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2015 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PC can do 4K 60FPS or 1080P 60+FPS easy Consoles are lame I wish Destiny would come to PC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PC can do 4K 60FPS or 1080P 60+FPS easy Consoles are lame I wish Destiny would come to PC.</p>
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		By: MoistBanjo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am just disapointed that the frame rate isn&#039;t 60fps. I prefer performance over resolution]]></description>
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		By: tcnitsni		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tcnitsni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/bungie-explains-why-destiny-is-not-60fps-on-the-ps4-and-xbox-one#comment-240782&quot;&gt;Generalkidd&lt;/a&gt;.

I know you posted this a long time ago, but Tomb Raider is not 1080p/60fps on Xbone. IT&#039;s 1080p but only 30 fps. 


The PS4 version runs at 1080p and 60fps though.]]></description>
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<p>I know you posted this a long time ago, but Tomb Raider is not 1080p/60fps on Xbone. IT&#8217;s 1080p but only 30 fps. </p>
<p>The PS4 version runs at 1080p and 60fps though.</p>
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