bungie just stole 500million and delivered a garbage game not even worth 1million in developement,

their 10 year excuse is garbage, I finished TTK in less then 3weeks and end game content is just the same stage over and over again to get better gear

Technically all the content is still playable. The biggest issue is the restricted access to upper-tier playlists of that content. Destiny players without TTK can still play every Strike, Raid, and Prison of Elders mission, but only to the highest base level. The content players paid for is still there, it’s the events and playlists that are put out of reach.

This does suck, and Bungie should come up with more tiered options for those who haven’t bought into the latest DLC (they do have some basic PvP playlists, why not do the same for lower-tier Strikes?), but as far as content goes, you have everything you paid for. The high-end Nightfall-level Strikes are for players who can reach the highest levels within the game, which is only doable by purchasing DLC. The only alternative would be making a level 34 (or so) level Nightfall accessible to only players without DLC, with lower rewards and the like.

Could it have been handled better? Absolutely. Even if other MMO-type games hold some things back for paying players, they make some accommodations for those who don’t continue paying, and Bungie could do a little more of that. But while it’s all obviously catered to the paying crowd, you can still play every bit of content you paid for.*

*Nightfalls and other playlist-based events seem to be just that: events. They’re treated as a modification to the content you have, not the content itself. Haven’t found anyone but you mentioning being locked out of a Raid they’ve paid for, however.

Of course Bungie blocked lots of content for non-upgrading users. I know I couldn’t play some strikes/raids after Dark Below was released. That’s why I quit and sold destiny.
I just googled whats about The Taken King. Again they locked content. Content for which you already paid for around 100$ (if bought at launch incl dlcs). Just to make sure you spend another 40$ to play on.

Destiny is like a drug & bungie isn’t a nice drug dealer. Bungie plays with your addiction and drains money out of you.

Did you played the launch destiny? I did and the story was more than thin and incomplete. You didn’t even had interesting characters. It’s not about liking it or not, because there isn’t much to like/dislike.
You found reviews which praise destiny’s story? I just found some which made fun of the story cards you found online, outside of destiny. I never checked those cards…

Sure, maybe there is lots of more content today. Maybe it’s even fun. But at this point you throw around 150$ at Bungie for one single game with 3dlcs and it still doesn’t feature content of 2,5games.
Except you waited over one year to buy The Taken King Legendary Edition. It has an accetable price-content ratio.

No I don’t confuse them. But I would agree that activision could be bungie’s idol. They make so much money with low-content games….today a lot of devs are envious of activision.

I think you’re vastly overstating the role Activision has had in design changes made to Destiny, mostly dating from the last year before release, and any role they might have had in high-level staff departures; I assume you mean Staten and O’Donnell. O’Donnell’s original beef was with Activision over their music choices for TV advertising, but it escalated way beyond that and became a conflict between him and Bungie’s board and other top managers. I’m not aware of any credible statement to the effect that Staten’s departure was due to Activision– quite the opposite, in fact, that it was a disagreement over the direction of Destiny’s story between Staten and other longtime Bungie personnel.

On the other hand… I can’t imagine why I’d want to defend Activision because that just sounds ridiculous. It’s just that no publishing deal, however onerous, compares to being owned outright, no matter how magnanimous the owner. So far, most of Destiny’s wounds seem to be self-inflicted, compared to, say, what Microsoft refusing to give Bungie another year to finish Halo 2 did to that game. YMMV.

Yes, they are independant but activision has taken some control away from bungie. Bungie owns their IP and is free to take it else where in 10 years, but Activison has made major game changes causing Bungie staff to quit.

Bungie is better off in some ways and worse of in others.

Either way if Bungie left the control of one devil and signed a partnership with another.

Bungie were owned by Microsoft. They have a publishing deal with Activision. What they wanted to be was an independent company and own their own IP, which they now do. It wasn’t about who is less evil, Microsoft or Activision, but about which state is better– being a first party developer for a single platform, or being an independent company?

Guess you didn’t read my first post or you are just a fanboy making random stupidly obvious posts.

I didn’t ask for the best gear just not useless gear 🙂
170 gear that doesn’t give me marks when I disassemble it is literally useless. I would love to get more replayability out of the old content and at the very least some marks and some gear at least as good as you can get on patrol!

Because they want you to play the new raid.

If you could get the same gear from every raid, people would pick the easiest one to run (Prison of Elders or Crota) and run it over and over until they had all the gear.

That completely defeats the point of having a new raid.