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		By: Spyan		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/ea-ripping-off-battlefield-play4free-users#comment-144571</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spyan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 04:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So let me get this straight. While waiting for BF3 I spent like 70 euros bying an MP5, Killer sniper rifle (the m95 + extended scope), a SCAR and 2 other fancy overpowered guns that I very much enjoyed. Back a year later, I don&#039;t have any access to the guns I blew 70 FUCKING BUCKS on. Like I&#039;d rather blow 70 bucks ON FUCKING FOOD FOR A WHOLE FUCKING MONTH. You HAVE to be shitting me. I&#039;m gonna raise fucking hell on those thieving EA fucking PIKEY FUCKING ASSHOLES.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me get this straight. While waiting for BF3 I spent like 70 euros bying an MP5, Killer sniper rifle (the m95 + extended scope), a SCAR and 2 other fancy overpowered guns that I very much enjoyed. Back a year later, I don&#8217;t have any access to the guns I blew 70 FUCKING BUCKS on. Like I&#8217;d rather blow 70 bucks ON FUCKING FOOD FOR A WHOLE FUCKING MONTH. You HAVE to be shitting me. I&#8217;m gonna raise fucking hell on those thieving EA fucking PIKEY FUCKING ASSHOLES.</p>
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		By: Nieknikey		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/ea-ripping-off-battlefield-play4free-users#comment-116696</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nieknikey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 13:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jon,
part of your comment is true, but your explanation is not true at all.

When Battlefunds were introduced, people had the choice to rent weapons and to buy weapons for unlimited time. After some time, Veteran and Elite weapons were introduced and I bought an elite weapon. After the Weapon customisation update everyone who had bought its weapon permanently, gained the &quot;Legacy attachments&quot;. However, EAsy still needs more money so they took the Legacy attachments hoping these users would put MORE money in this game. This is just sick! They need to give us back our elite weapons RIGHT NOW!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,<br />
part of your comment is true, but your explanation is not true at all.</p>
<p>When Battlefunds were introduced, people had the choice to rent weapons and to buy weapons for unlimited time. After some time, Veteran and Elite weapons were introduced and I bought an elite weapon. After the Weapon customisation update everyone who had bought its weapon permanently, gained the &#8220;Legacy attachments&#8221;. However, EAsy still needs more money so they took the Legacy attachments hoping these users would put MORE money in this game. This is just sick! They need to give us back our elite weapons RIGHT NOW!</p>
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		By: BOB		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/ea-ripping-off-battlefield-play4free-users#comment-116670</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BOB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 04:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A mention about gun pricing.  The original guns could be bought permanently for real money. Replacement guns are very weak and the attachments are REALLY expensive, cannot be bought permanently and fall just short of the old legacy attachments.

Complicated I know. Lets give some figures. Prices taken directly from the website today. 

To put the gun back near the old performance (still short, still feeling odd to handle) will cost 4850 game credits for 1 day (about 18 hours of non stop play) or 2555 BF (currently US$15/GB£14).  The maximum time/deal is one week for real money, only 6390BF (US$36.26 GB£32.60).

This is for one gun, an engineers MP5, to be ok&#039;ish for one week.

To not make any changes and use a base gun youll find huge recoil in all 4 directions plus bullet deviation figures that makes it like an invisible wall between you and your target. 

There are so many other things I could mention, but this is the latest and worst. If JON thinks its a storm in a teacup then I suggest he could be a freeplayer that benefits from having all the vets guns being reduced, plus is not affected by the insane pricing structure. Its basicly changed the game from right under us.

JON also ignores the fact that EAsy only unbalanced the Legacy stats by first giving all the renters a very weak gun. The same weak gun theyve swapped in for us to buy attachments on now.  Also there was a suspious bug introduced on the 1st that made all weapons more powerful than usual.  Only after 3 weeks of vets testing, saying &#039;we refuse to buy any new guns if theyre that weak&#039; did EAsy change tack and nerf the legacy items too. This is despite promises back in feb/march that Perm was forever and what we bought we kept. This has plainly not been the case and it was not a simple balancing as JON suggests.

This is a complex subject with heated opinions being voiced. Lets not let the truth slip away eh?

Merry Christmas Easy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A mention about gun pricing.  The original guns could be bought permanently for real money. Replacement guns are very weak and the attachments are REALLY expensive, cannot be bought permanently and fall just short of the old legacy attachments.</p>
<p>Complicated I know. Lets give some figures. Prices taken directly from the website today. </p>
<p>To put the gun back near the old performance (still short, still feeling odd to handle) will cost 4850 game credits for 1 day (about 18 hours of non stop play) or 2555 BF (currently US$15/GB£14).  The maximum time/deal is one week for real money, only 6390BF (US$36.26 GB£32.60).</p>
<p>This is for one gun, an engineers MP5, to be ok&#8217;ish for one week.</p>
<p>To not make any changes and use a base gun youll find huge recoil in all 4 directions plus bullet deviation figures that makes it like an invisible wall between you and your target. </p>
<p>There are so many other things I could mention, but this is the latest and worst. If JON thinks its a storm in a teacup then I suggest he could be a freeplayer that benefits from having all the vets guns being reduced, plus is not affected by the insane pricing structure. Its basicly changed the game from right under us.</p>
<p>JON also ignores the fact that EAsy only unbalanced the Legacy stats by first giving all the renters a very weak gun. The same weak gun theyve swapped in for us to buy attachments on now.  Also there was a suspious bug introduced on the 1st that made all weapons more powerful than usual.  Only after 3 weeks of vets testing, saying &#8216;we refuse to buy any new guns if theyre that weak&#8217; did EAsy change tack and nerf the legacy items too. This is despite promises back in feb/march that Perm was forever and what we bought we kept. This has plainly not been the case and it was not a simple balancing as JON suggests.</p>
<p>This is a complex subject with heated opinions being voiced. Lets not let the truth slip away eh?</p>
<p>Merry Christmas Easy</p>
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		By: Mr.Bitches		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr.Bitches]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 03:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/ea-ripping-off-battlefield-play4free-users#comment-116571&quot;&gt;Jon&lt;/a&gt;.

Jon this article is dead on....You sond like an EA employee!!! I bought Several Elite class weapons for all of my characters....when legacy came out...there was no need to customize the weapons...because Easy gave us a tricked out weapon in compensation for the lose of the Elite class...Now after a couple of weeks...they decided to nerf the legacy class weapons...making them shodws of their former selves.....and now offer customizations that can only be rented for short periods of time that can bring the guns closer to where they were .....so you see...they took our stuff...and are now trying to sell it back to us....plus move along ..you obviously are EAsy or a complete moron...
EAsy and EA ripped us off...and we are going to flame their forums...and bitch and moan until they close up shop or give us what we payed for....troll!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/ea-ripping-off-battlefield-play4free-users#comment-116571">Jon</a>.</p>
<p>Jon this article is dead on&#8230;.You sond like an EA employee!!! I bought Several Elite class weapons for all of my characters&#8230;.when legacy came out&#8230;there was no need to customize the weapons&#8230;because Easy gave us a tricked out weapon in compensation for the lose of the Elite class&#8230;Now after a couple of weeks&#8230;they decided to nerf the legacy class weapons&#8230;making them shodws of their former selves&#8230;..and now offer customizations that can only be rented for short periods of time that can bring the guns closer to where they were &#8230;..so you see&#8230;they took our stuff&#8230;and are now trying to sell it back to us&#8230;.plus move along ..you obviously are EAsy or a complete moron&#8230;<br />
EAsy and EA ripped us off&#8230;and we are going to flame their forums&#8230;and bitch and moan until they close up shop or give us what we payed for&#8230;.troll!</p>
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		By: Martyn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 22:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obviously jon is being biased by trying to justify the update, probably even works for them.
The weapons tested and paid for before the update are not the same as they are now after the update, and the question is would you pay for that same weapon now the way it is,  obviously not.
And out of all this we were told nothing would be changed; you get to keep what you paid for.
So even if the &#039;rest of the community is angry&#039; does that mean we can&#039;t be aswell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously jon is being biased by trying to justify the update, probably even works for them.<br />
The weapons tested and paid for before the update are not the same as they are now after the update, and the question is would you pay for that same weapon now the way it is,  obviously not.<br />
And out of all this we were told nothing would be changed; you get to keep what you paid for.<br />
So even if the &#8216;rest of the community is angry&#8217; does that mean we can&#8217;t be aswell.</p>
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		By: Lawyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lawyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Err... lawsuit waiting to happen....

You can&#039;t sell an item and change it later without giving the money back or getting the person to agree to take something else in exchange.   

Think of this way.. you pay $50 for 100 cable t.v channels of your choice.... half way thru the month the cable tv company takes away your channels and give you different 100 channels telling you these are better channels.... IF they are better you don&#039;t care... IF they are not, you have a breach of contract suit.  

Now I&#039;m sure EA has tried to use terms of use agreements but in the end when have they ever stopped a lawsuit....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Err&#8230; lawsuit waiting to happen&#8230;.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t sell an item and change it later without giving the money back or getting the person to agree to take something else in exchange.   </p>
<p>Think of this way.. you pay $50 for 100 cable t.v channels of your choice&#8230;. half way thru the month the cable tv company takes away your channels and give you different 100 channels telling you these are better channels&#8230;. IF they are better you don&#8217;t care&#8230; IF they are not, you have a breach of contract suit.  </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m sure EA has tried to use terms of use agreements but in the end when have they ever stopped a lawsuit&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Str1000ac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Str1000ac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/ea-ripping-off-battlefield-play4free-users#comment-116352&quot;&gt;Bilbo&lt;/a&gt;.

Bilbo where do you see justice in that. Nice logic, I&#039;ll ask EASY about that.

 I suck with 3.000 credits AEK so I bought SAW for 10€ and got what I deserved from EASY = nothing for 10€]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/ea-ripping-off-battlefield-play4free-users#comment-116352">Bilbo</a>.</p>
<p>Bilbo where do you see justice in that. Nice logic, I&#8217;ll ask EASY about that.</p>
<p> I suck with 3.000 credits AEK so I bought SAW for 10€ and got what I deserved from EASY = nothing for 10€</p>
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		By: Str1000ac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Str1000ac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I paid almost 10€ for non-holo-SAW with 120+360 bullets.
Now I have 80+80 bullets so I have to pay AGAIN, for ammo !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I paid almost 10€ for non-holo-SAW with 120+360 bullets.<br />
Now I have 80+80 bullets so I have to pay AGAIN, for ammo !</p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jon,
 Look at it this way. We paid for a Ferrari. After driving it a while, the company we got it from comes back and says &quot;People are jealous because you have a nice car, so we&#039;re taking the Ferrari, now here are the keys to a Yugo.&quot;

 Point is we bought the weapons, and attachments. Many times they told us in many other forum posts that we get to keep them as we bought them. They reneged on the deal. Not the first time EA has done this, now people are just sick of it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,<br />
 Look at it this way. We paid for a Ferrari. After driving it a while, the company we got it from comes back and says &#8220;People are jealous because you have a nice car, so we&#8217;re taking the Ferrari, now here are the keys to a Yugo.&#8221;</p>
<p> Point is we bought the weapons, and attachments. Many times they told us in many other forum posts that we get to keep them as we bought them. They reneged on the deal. Not the first time EA has done this, now people are just sick of it!</p>
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		By: tonk		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tonk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[when you bought those &#039;overpowered&#039; weapon, it clearly said they last forever.
And its not the cause they were overpowered, it&#039;s the nerfing of the basic weapons that made the difference bigger than it was before.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when you bought those &#8216;overpowered&#8217; weapon, it clearly said they last forever.<br />
And its not the cause they were overpowered, it&#8217;s the nerfing of the basic weapons that made the difference bigger than it was before.</p>
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