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		By: Axe99		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Axe99]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-313781&quot;&gt;Zeh Gama&lt;/a&gt;.

Haha, necro much? :).  I&#039;m too crook to play faster-paced console games now, so almost entirely play strategy games on PC, but a couple of years ago I was gaming a PC with a core i7 and a GTX 660 (similar GPU and significantly inferior CPU to the current consoles) and a PS4, and the PS4 was capable of better visuals at a given framerate.  There wasn&#039;t much in it though, deffo nothing to get excited about, although I&#039;d expect another couple of years of optimisation would have made the gap a little larger.  There is, of course, also optimisation for PC games but the return on optimisation is far greater for consoles because of the fixed platform, so historically there&#039;s always* (on average, across the platform - there are still individual console games that are optimised terribly) been greater optimisation on console.

Of course, that doesn&#039;t mean you can&#039;t play and enjoy older PC games, particularly given the more gentle curve in hardware improvements these days (11 years ago, an 11-year old card wouldn&#039;t have been good for contemporary games, but the improvement in hardware capability over the last 11 years has been a good deal slower).  That said, for modern &#039;AAA&#039; games, an 11-year old card may struggle - Dishonored 2 has a min spec of a GTX 660, and that&#039;s only a five year old card - to play with an 11-year old card you&#039;d want something pretty impressive from way back when.

* Well, back to the early 1980s, I can&#039;t do console/computer comparisons earlier than that :P.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-313781">Zeh Gama</a>.</p>
<p>Haha, necro much? :).  I&#8217;m too crook to play faster-paced console games now, so almost entirely play strategy games on PC, but a couple of years ago I was gaming a PC with a core i7 and a GTX 660 (similar GPU and significantly inferior CPU to the current consoles) and a PS4, and the PS4 was capable of better visuals at a given framerate.  There wasn&#8217;t much in it though, deffo nothing to get excited about, although I&#8217;d expect another couple of years of optimisation would have made the gap a little larger.  There is, of course, also optimisation for PC games but the return on optimisation is far greater for consoles because of the fixed platform, so historically there&#8217;s always* (on average, across the platform &#8211; there are still individual console games that are optimised terribly) been greater optimisation on console.</p>
<p>Of course, that doesn&#8217;t mean you can&#8217;t play and enjoy older PC games, particularly given the more gentle curve in hardware improvements these days (11 years ago, an 11-year old card wouldn&#8217;t have been good for contemporary games, but the improvement in hardware capability over the last 11 years has been a good deal slower).  That said, for modern &#8216;AAA&#8217; games, an 11-year old card may struggle &#8211; Dishonored 2 has a min spec of a GTX 660, and that&#8217;s only a five year old card &#8211; to play with an 11-year old card you&#8217;d want something pretty impressive from way back when.</p>
<p>* Well, back to the early 1980s, I can&#8217;t do console/computer comparisons earlier than that :P.</p>
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		By: Zeh Gama		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zeh Gama]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 11:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[you can pick up an os from kinguin for 20-30$]]></description>
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		By: Zeh Gama		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zeh Gama]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-245162&quot;&gt;Axe99&lt;/a&gt;.

and where did you get this info axe? funny i watched youtube videos of pc gamers that say there is optimization (which there is) hence why i have this 11 year old graphics card and im still playing the games i love.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-245162">Axe99</a>.</p>
<p>and where did you get this info axe? funny i watched youtube videos of pc gamers that say there is optimization (which there is) hence why i have this 11 year old graphics card and im still playing the games i love.</p>
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		By: Axe99		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Axe99]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2014 22:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-245149&quot;&gt;James Kyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Beyond the fact that the consoles still have a few hardware advantages (unified memory, for example), you still get the optimisations for console you don&#039;t get for PC - PC hardware is incredibly varied, and it just isn&#039;t cost-effective for PC versions of games (which generally make less money in total than their console releases) to optimise for literally hundreds of different hardware combinations.  On console, on the other hand, they have to optimise literally for two, fixed hardware combinations, and can re-use those optimisations over half a decade or more.


Look at Shadow of Mordor - it&#039;s a great game visually on PC, but you get very close to high-end PC performance on console for a fraction of the price, and without any of the tech headaches that often come with PC gaming.  And this is all in the first year - give it another couple of years and both the XB1 and PS4 will be pulling off things their &#039;base&#039; GPU/CPU combination in a comparable PC couldn&#039;t dream of (not unlike how the original Xbox, a veritable PC-in-a-box, achieved over a decade ago).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-245149">James Kyler</a>.</p>
<p>Beyond the fact that the consoles still have a few hardware advantages (unified memory, for example), you still get the optimisations for console you don&#8217;t get for PC &#8211; PC hardware is incredibly varied, and it just isn&#8217;t cost-effective for PC versions of games (which generally make less money in total than their console releases) to optimise for literally hundreds of different hardware combinations.  On console, on the other hand, they have to optimise literally for two, fixed hardware combinations, and can re-use those optimisations over half a decade or more.</p>
<p>Look at Shadow of Mordor &#8211; it&#8217;s a great game visually on PC, but you get very close to high-end PC performance on console for a fraction of the price, and without any of the tech headaches that often come with PC gaming.  And this is all in the first year &#8211; give it another couple of years and both the XB1 and PS4 will be pulling off things their &#8216;base&#8217; GPU/CPU combination in a comparable PC couldn&#8217;t dream of (not unlike how the original Xbox, a veritable PC-in-a-box, achieved over a decade ago).</p>
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		By: James Kyler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-240478&quot;&gt;Axe99&lt;/a&gt;.

Prior generations that was true but both PS$ and Xbone both share x86 architecture like pc&#039;s and similar gpu structure coding for them is nearly identical now so the Metro comments and 360 references no longer apply]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-240478">Axe99</a>.</p>
<p>Prior generations that was true but both PS$ and Xbone both share x86 architecture like pc&#8217;s and similar gpu structure coding for them is nearly identical now so the Metro comments and 360 references no longer apply</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2014 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m in way over ma head with this topic. Lol. I&#039;ll let Psionic and Jeff school us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in way over ma head with this topic. Lol. I&#8217;ll let Psionic and Jeff school us.</p>
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		By: Psionicinversion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Psionicinversion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2014 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-240488&quot;&gt;Kumomeme&lt;/a&gt;.

7770, the 90 bit on the end usually referred to a dual gpu on AMD&#039;s old naming scheme]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-240488">Kumomeme</a>.</p>
<p>7770, the 90 bit on the end usually referred to a dual gpu on AMD&#8217;s old naming scheme</p>
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		By: BarleyD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BarleyD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-240430&quot;&gt;Kamille&lt;/a&gt;.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-240430">Kamille</a>.</p>
<p><b>I just got paid &lt;-$7500 by working part time off of a lap-top b­­­­­­­­y ­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­G­­­­­­­­­­­­oog­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­l­­­­­e­­­­­­­­­­­­­.I­ a­­m ­­­­­­­­­m­­a­­k­­­­i­n­­­g ­­­­­­­­­a ­­­­­­­­­go­­od ­­­­­­­­­sa­­la­­ry ­­­­­­­­­fr­­­om ­­­­­­­­­h­­.o­­m­e ­­­­­­­­­$­­5­5­0­0­­­­­­­­­-­­­­­­­­­$­­7000/w­­­­­e­e­k..L­­­ast Thursday I got a brand new BM­­­W since getting a check for $647­­­4 this &#8211; 4 weeks past. I beg­­­an this 8-months ago and imm­­­ediately was bringing home at lea­­­st $97 pesdr hour. I wo­­­rk thr­­­ough this link, go﻿ to tech tab for work det­­­ail­­­</p>
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		By: Kumomeme		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kumomeme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2014 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i&#039;ve seen lot of build made to compete either with ps4 or xbox one,
but this is the worst built i ever seen
not only worse also seems outdated
tons of other gaming and pc site had suggested better spec with latest hardware with the similiar budget
poor you gamingbolt]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve seen lot of build made to compete either with ps4 or xbox one,<br />
but this is the worst built i ever seen<br />
not only worse also seems outdated<br />
tons of other gaming and pc site had suggested better spec with latest hardware with the similiar budget<br />
poor you gamingbolt</p>
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		By: Kumomeme		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kumomeme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2014 13:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-240485&quot;&gt;Psionicinversion&lt;/a&gt;.

true...also need to keep in mind both console had wide different in performance..especially the gpu...
ps4 gpu was hd7850 while xboxone gpu 7790
is funny because now not like ps3 and 360 anymore which is both had on par performance
this is worst build i ever seen...not only worst..also seems outdated]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399#comment-240485">Psionicinversion</a>.</p>
<p>true&#8230;also need to keep in mind both console had wide different in performance..especially the gpu&#8230;<br />
ps4 gpu was hd7850 while xboxone gpu 7790<br />
is funny because now not like ps3 and 360 anymore which is both had on par performance<br />
this is worst build i ever seen&#8230;not only worst..also seems outdated</p>
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