Im not begging for old games idiot, just stating my opinion on what I would like Microsoft to accomplish for Xbox gamers. You dont have a clue on how many 1st party games Microsoft has invested in for this year Mr.rat so go back in your hole.

Lmao. That dude Ryan got banned quick!

Exactly! I’m seeing everyone say “Scorpio will struggle to run AAA games @4k”, yada yada ya. I’m like, do u really think Phil’s gonna have this thing struggle wit resolution too?! I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt…

Better than the Starvestation 4 and will be even better than the Pee-O when I get my RX 480X 😉

Yah was hungover earlier so forgot how xbox OS works. Forgetting it has 3 OSs running on a VM Xbox windows is more like windows phone OS than desktop windows in how it operates. You’ll have an app or browser or whatever when you move to something else it will suspend it claiming back resources but leaves abit in memory so it can start up faster. How many of those you can have before it starts fully closing programs I dunno but seeing as MS made a big deal about being able to play music whilst playing a game sometime this year in an update tells me it really doesn’t multitask that much just on select.

I clearly said Sony makes more than $15 on each controller sold… Lol no I didn’t I told you that was what they were being manufactured for, that includes the profit from the manufacturer. They would of made over 50 million of them by now way over. Dunno how much Sony gets per controller but the store that sells them gets the majority of the money.

Ifixit did a cost breakdown of the ps4 when it first released and for the hardware and packaging and stuff think it came to $382 and it sold for $400. So you tell me how much money is the store getting per console?? Stores will stock the product as there relying on you going there and possibly buying other stuff while your there. Sort of like how supermarkets have these deals on, it’s too get you in there in the hopes you’ll buy more stuff from them.

The problem with these certified peripherals is there more expensive than just buying the same thing. They charge more just for a Xbox or playstation logo on it. Forgot about nodded controllers but you know. How would it take man hours to implement mouse and keyboard? It will be tiny because it’s already there via gamepad support no different really

you’re talking about your PS4 but then you’re trying to use that in an Xbox thread??? you’re joking right? let me just tell you, the way your ps4 works is not how xbox works. you’re trying to use your console that doesn’t run windows as an example for how windows works. there’s a lot of things wrong with that.
–
I’ve never watched dragons den but i’m managed a couple retail stores and one of those dealt directly with the manufacturer on couple of our products after we decided to cut out the middle men and get the products much cheaper.
what I understand about the gaming ecosystem is that the stores do make money on consoles, games and accessories sold. I mean, there is literally NO reason to carry a product that doesn’t give you a return. it seems you’re trying to tell me that retailers basically gives the consoles shelf space and storage space for free to manufacturers in the hope of selling more games and accessories…
also you’re going back on what you’ve said before: clearly you said sony made a lot more than $15 on each controller sold and you based that on the amount it’s sold for. but now you’re trying to tell me that actually they don’t make that much but they depend on bulk sale to actually make money.
–
i’m not a pc gamer anymore, but I remember hacks being done through usb. allowing any and all peripherals opens the community to a lot of unneeded trouble and someone using a hacked or uncertified and modfied controller can easily get an unfair advantage and potentially destroy the community was apart of my point along with adding a wider area for modified devices to hook into.
instead of having 2 doors you create 50 to accommodate every and all bodies….but at some point you or someone will leave one of those doors unlocked and someone who you don’t want will get it.
–
it actually costs engineering man hours. i’m glad that Microsoft is taking their time in implementing keyboard and mouse support, I want them to get it right and secure, I honestly don’t want them to enable any and all bodies in, but a curated set of certified peripherals

well the consoles dont multitask at all really. When im on my ps4 and i want to play a game it will ask me to shut down the previous thing i was using so the amount of RAM it needs is barely anything and it has 2.5-3GB ram out of the 8GB specifically for the OS.

The amount it costs to build will have the manufacturers cut in there. After watching Dragons Den where the people pitching break down the costs to manufacturer distribute etc, the store selling the product gets a massive cut mostly ive heard about 50% of the RRP. the manufacturer doesnt earn much and solely relies on massive bulk orders. But with the consoles the store doesnt earn anything from that instead relying on the money from game sales and peripherals.

Same as the Apprentice, a team went to a wholesaler and was trying negotiate a better price and even Alan Sugar said youve got be mad negotiating with a wholesaler as they rely on selling in bulk to make there profits.

You do know most hacks have programs installed on the PC and hook into exe’s and dll’s… you still cant install any of that on a console so hacking will still be non existent really.

Its not going to cost the console anything to be able to plug in anything you want its just software… the console has USB slots already so doesnt need to add anything

do you mind telling me how consoles handle os cache?
I made install size comment to point out that there are lots of drivers and files in windows partly because it has to deal with millions of older files, software and hardware. the comment wasn’t about it taking up all your hdd space.
about the controller it was an example plus I believe that I am right on or very close to the mark. even though it’s being sold for $60 you have to take into consideration vendor and distribution cost etc. there are lots of middle men to deal with and each of them wants a cut so out of that 60 maybe 30 goes back to the manufacturer and if it costs 15 to build then how much is left for profit?
just like games that are sold for $60, the developer/publishers only see $30 of that.
–
my point is simply that the cost of accessories and game sales help to keep the cost of consoles down, therefore if you’re trying to paint it as nefarious for having device specific accessories then I will say that you’re wrong, it’s actually a good thing for the console.
and I don’t think they NEED to enable access to the system for any and ALL peripheral because that’s just stupid in the sense that it opens the box to a lot of attack vectors.
I rather play in a game that’s not being hacked by everyone
i’m all for giving devs all the power and budget they can get, whether it’s 5 or 100mb
to me supporting all and any peripheral is definitely not an a need bases, the cost of the console is more important.
that’s how I see it.

Your GPU is weaksauce :op