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	Comments on: &#8216;Next Car Game&#8217; Dev on PS4&#8217;s RAM Latency Claims And Next Gen Development Costs	</title>
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		By: JoeD		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-234771</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2014 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[God damn, everyone just shut the F up!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God damn, everyone just shut the F up!</p>
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		By: Michael Lee Kunschner		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-207270</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Lee Kunschner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2013 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-205180&quot;&gt;George Valkhoun&lt;/a&gt;.

LAWL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-205180">George Valkhoun</a>.</p>
<p>LAWL</p>
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		By: Michael Lee Kunschner		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-207269</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Lee Kunschner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2013 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204342&quot;&gt;HDShatter .&lt;/a&gt;.

Was looking at 7970 for next build, with the law of diminishing return, it alone should outlast this gen of consoles. So beastly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204342">HDShatter .</a>.</p>
<p>Was looking at 7970 for next build, with the law of diminishing return, it alone should outlast this gen of consoles. So beastly.</p>
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		By: George Valkhoun		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-205181</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Valkhoun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 05:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204342&quot;&gt;HDShatter .&lt;/a&gt;.

who cares.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204342">HDShatter .</a>.</p>
<p>who cares.</p>
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		By: George Valkhoun		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-205180</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Valkhoun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 05:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204331&quot;&gt;kreammer&lt;/a&gt;.

Nobody cares. It&#039;s all about the games. Besides, the PC is dying. Also, console optimization goes a long way. Nothing is really optimized on PCs. You&#039;re just adding more Mhz to make everything run faster. PCs lose once again. PS4 for the win.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204331">kreammer</a>.</p>
<p>Nobody cares. It&#8217;s all about the games. Besides, the PC is dying. Also, console optimization goes a long way. Nothing is really optimized on PCs. You&#8217;re just adding more Mhz to make everything run faster. PCs lose once again. PS4 for the win.</p>
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		By: George Valkhoun		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-205179</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Valkhoun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 05:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204334&quot;&gt;Guest&lt;/a&gt;.

Once again, PS4 for the win *yawn*...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204334">Guest</a>.</p>
<p>Once again, PS4 for the win *yawn*&#8230;</p>
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		By: Nathan O		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204534</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan O]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2013 01:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204346&quot;&gt;YnotNDalton&lt;/a&gt;.

and yet the CPU&#039;s in PC&#039;s are still using DDR RAM]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204346">YnotNDalton</a>.</p>
<p>and yet the CPU&#8217;s in PC&#8217;s are still using DDR RAM</p>
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		By: Jecht_Sin		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204358</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jecht_Sin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Really? With all the gamelay videos out alredy they are still keeping going on with that latency crap? Which is just 20% higher anyway. Nothing the CPU caches can&#039;t deal with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? With all the gamelay videos out alredy they are still keeping going on with that latency crap? Which is just 20% higher anyway. Nothing the CPU caches can&#8217;t deal with.</p>
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		By: YnotNDalton		</title>
		<link>https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204346</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YnotNDalton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 13:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These latency issues ppl are talking about is a crock of crap ... Bandwidth is what graphics processing relies on.. latency has minimal impacts on it thats why nvidia and amd put gddr5 on high end graphics cards not ddr3... ppl need to use thier common sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These latency issues ppl are talking about is a crock of crap &#8230; Bandwidth is what graphics processing relies on.. latency has minimal impacts on it thats why nvidia and amd put gddr5 on high end graphics cards not ddr3&#8230; ppl need to use thier common sense.</p>
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		By: HDShatter .		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HDShatter .]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 12:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204331&quot;&gt;kreammer&lt;/a&gt;.

If you own a decent desktop its cheaper to add a GPU than buy a new console anyway:

Raderon R9-280x (improved 7970 thats cheaper), out right now - $300

PS4: not out for 1 more month - $400

R9-280x:
2048 Stream Processors
			3GB Vram + System ram (newer boards support up to 32 or 64.), ddr4 is becoming the standard next year and will blow away the gddr5 and have super low latency.
384-bit GDDR5
Core Clock 1000MHz
Boost Clock 1050MHz
Effective Memory Clock 6000MHz
4.8 Teraflops, overclocks to over 5
System Memory Bandwidth: 288GB/sec

PS4 GPU:
1152 Stream Processors
8GB of GDDR5, shared between vram and ram usage so its really only 2-3 available for vram and the rest for ram
256-bit GDDR5
Effective Memory Clock 5500MHz
1.84 teraflops
System Memory Bandwidth: 176.0GB/s

As you can see the new upper mid range PC card from AMD blows away the PS4.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/next-car-game-dev-on-ps4s-ram-latency-issues-and-next-gen-development-costs#comment-204331">kreammer</a>.</p>
<p>If you own a decent desktop its cheaper to add a GPU than buy a new console anyway:</p>
<p>Raderon R9-280x (improved 7970 thats cheaper), out right now &#8211; $300</p>
<p>PS4: not out for 1 more month &#8211; $400</p>
<p>R9-280x:<br />
2048 Stream Processors<br />
			3GB Vram + System ram (newer boards support up to 32 or 64.), ddr4 is becoming the standard next year and will blow away the gddr5 and have super low latency.<br />
384-bit GDDR5<br />
Core Clock 1000MHz<br />
Boost Clock 1050MHz<br />
Effective Memory Clock 6000MHz<br />
4.8 Teraflops, overclocks to over 5<br />
System Memory Bandwidth: 288GB/sec</p>
<p>PS4 GPU:<br />
1152 Stream Processors<br />
8GB of GDDR5, shared between vram and ram usage so its really only 2-3 available for vram and the rest for ram<br />
256-bit GDDR5<br />
Effective Memory Clock 5500MHz<br />
1.84 teraflops<br />
System Memory Bandwidth: 176.0GB/s</p>
<p>As you can see the new upper mid range PC card from AMD blows away the PS4.</p>
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