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		By: Counterproductive		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2014 23:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-246026&quot;&gt;justerthought&lt;/a&gt;.

Not disputing that. The original post that I was responding to was asserting that the Xbox 360 / PS3 were more powerful than PCs at the time of their release.]]></description>
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<p>Not disputing that. The original post that I was responding to was asserting that the Xbox 360 / PS3 were more powerful than PCs at the time of their release.</p>
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		By: justerthought		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[justerthought]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2014 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245278&quot;&gt;Counterproductive&lt;/a&gt;.

You are confusing cutting edge PC&#039;s with the hardware that most PC gamers own. A console can never match a cutting edge PC because it wins through pure brute force. Only about 5% of PC gamers are cutting edge according to a Steam survey of their customers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245278">Counterproductive</a>.</p>
<p>You are confusing cutting edge PC&#8217;s with the hardware that most PC gamers own. A console can never match a cutting edge PC because it wins through pure brute force. Only about 5% of PC gamers are cutting edge according to a Steam survey of their customers.</p>
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		By: justerthought		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[justerthought]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2014 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The PS4 does out perform most gaming PC&#039;s because not all of them are cutting edge PC rigs. That will continue until those PC gamer lash out some money and upgrade.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PS4 does out perform most gaming PC&#8217;s because not all of them are cutting edge PC rigs. That will continue until those PC gamer lash out some money and upgrade.</p>
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		By: Psionicinversion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Psionicinversion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2014 02:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245350&quot;&gt;Counterproductive&lt;/a&gt;.

You know what your absolutely right I&#039;m just a bit drink at more, and on battle Royale on SC :p looking forward to getting owned haha hg a]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245350">Counterproductive</a>.</p>
<p>You know what your absolutely right I&#8217;m just a bit drink at more, and on battle Royale on SC :p looking forward to getting owned haha hg a</p>
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		By: Counterproductive		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Counterproductive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2014 02:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245346&quot;&gt;Psionicinversion&lt;/a&gt;.

So what you&#039;re saying is that PCs are always stronger than consoles. So again, what part am I wrong about?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245346">Psionicinversion</a>.</p>
<p>So what you&#8217;re saying is that PCs are always stronger than consoles. So again, what part am I wrong about?</p>
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		By: Psionicinversion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Psionicinversion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245343&quot;&gt;Counterproductive&lt;/a&gt;.

both cpus are about the same power BUT its really weak for a modern processor to be as powerful as something designed basically 14 years ago. 8 years ago start of ps3 + additional maybe 6 years for cell to be designed. thats not very good at all.

not really sure how PC&#039;s were back then beuase ive gamed on PC for about 20 years but the turning point for me was when i got involved in the console war last year. I didnt care tbh but my mate loved his ps3 wanted ps4 so i decided to read up on them both so i could argue that the x1 was better. we had some right good arguements.

For some reason after that i need the best gfx so i dunno why; ive always gone for like the mid-high end... i.e. 280x after that you got 290 then 290x so i spose 280x is highish end.

But now i want a 390x in feb/march about time it should be released. dunno why maybe i need to properly unleash the power of my i7 950 (technically a 7 year old processor from when it was released) and still crushes the consoles. But yeah next PC in 2 years going be intel or amd zen 6/8 core (12/16 thread CPU) :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245343">Counterproductive</a>.</p>
<p>both cpus are about the same power BUT its really weak for a modern processor to be as powerful as something designed basically 14 years ago. 8 years ago start of ps3 + additional maybe 6 years for cell to be designed. thats not very good at all.</p>
<p>not really sure how PC&#8217;s were back then beuase ive gamed on PC for about 20 years but the turning point for me was when i got involved in the console war last year. I didnt care tbh but my mate loved his ps3 wanted ps4 so i decided to read up on them both so i could argue that the x1 was better. we had some right good arguements.</p>
<p>For some reason after that i need the best gfx so i dunno why; ive always gone for like the mid-high end&#8230; i.e. 280x after that you got 290 then 290x so i spose 280x is highish end.</p>
<p>But now i want a 390x in feb/march about time it should be released. dunno why maybe i need to properly unleash the power of my i7 950 (technically a 7 year old processor from when it was released) and still crushes the consoles. But yeah next PC in 2 years going be intel or amd zen 6/8 core (12/16 thread CPU) 😀</p>
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		By: Counterproductive		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Counterproductive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 23:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245288&quot;&gt;Psionicinversion&lt;/a&gt;.

Which part of what I said was wrong? Because it really sounded like you just proved my point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245288">Psionicinversion</a>.</p>
<p>Which part of what I said was wrong? Because it really sounded like you just proved my point.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boy, soon as I saw this headline, I knew people would get to commenting lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, soon as I saw this headline, I knew people would get to commenting lol</p>
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		By: Psionicinversion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Psionicinversion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2014 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245285&quot;&gt;Counterproductive&lt;/a&gt;.

wrong... it took a long time for devs to learn the cell architecture and to learn the powerpc architecture of the 360. Also they were fairly new to multithreading so took a while to get the most out of that. Also the cell is more powerful or nearly as powerful as the cpu in these consoles

This time its straight up x86  architecture and GCN. They know how to multithread, the x86 architecture is much simpler to get most out of same as GCN as drivers and tools and SDK&#039;s for the architecture are mature for it so not much increase in power available im afraid.

The consoles will be constantly maxed out, they can improve the tools but whilst youve got games out that need a 780 to max you can optimise that tool/SDK all you want but it will NEVER have enough power to out do that and so will constantly be maxed.  That extra bit of tool optimisation probably allows for a bit further draw distance or 1 higher detail setting somewhere.

You think its some massively powerful machine with lots left but lets face it, it really isnt.  It was funny when devs said there surprised that PS4 is more powerful than they thought. I bet they quietly changed that tune when they ran into all sorts of problems trying get games run stabily and when even a weak PC out do&#039;s it.

check this out i tried putting together a cheap build PC that would smash the consoles apart and ive done it

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/psionicinversion/saved/T2v2FT

basically £430 with OS, hook it up to a TV and your ready to rocknroll... of and 270x far far outperforms the ps4

add £35 for win7 home off ebay, go all digital from cdkeyprices . com and consoles just bin decimated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245285">Counterproductive</a>.</p>
<p>wrong&#8230; it took a long time for devs to learn the cell architecture and to learn the powerpc architecture of the 360. Also they were fairly new to multithreading so took a while to get the most out of that. Also the cell is more powerful or nearly as powerful as the cpu in these consoles</p>
<p>This time its straight up x86  architecture and GCN. They know how to multithread, the x86 architecture is much simpler to get most out of same as GCN as drivers and tools and SDK&#8217;s for the architecture are mature for it so not much increase in power available im afraid.</p>
<p>The consoles will be constantly maxed out, they can improve the tools but whilst youve got games out that need a 780 to max you can optimise that tool/SDK all you want but it will NEVER have enough power to out do that and so will constantly be maxed.  That extra bit of tool optimisation probably allows for a bit further draw distance or 1 higher detail setting somewhere.</p>
<p>You think its some massively powerful machine with lots left but lets face it, it really isnt.  It was funny when devs said there surprised that PS4 is more powerful than they thought. I bet they quietly changed that tune when they ran into all sorts of problems trying get games run stabily and when even a weak PC out do&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>check this out i tried putting together a cheap build PC that would smash the consoles apart and ive done it</p>
<p><a href="http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/psionicinversion/saved/T2v2FT" rel="nofollow ugc">http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/psionicinversion/saved/T2v2FT</a></p>
<p>basically £430 with OS, hook it up to a TV and your ready to rocknroll&#8230; of and 270x far far outperforms the ps4</p>
<p>add £35 for win7 home off ebay, go all digital from cdkeyprices . com and consoles just bin decimated.</p>
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		By: Counterproductive		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Counterproductive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2014 20:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245279&quot;&gt;Psionicinversion&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m sorry but I am afraid that isn&#039;t the case. PCs at the time were still far more advanced, with faster CPUs, and video cards that had the capacity for significantly more memory, capable of producing higher resolutions and frame rates. They were also significantly more expensive than the consoles available, for obvious reasons. 

As for your second statement, if you look at the difference between a launch PS3 title like Genji and compare it to the visuals on The Last of Us, you&#039;ll see that there&#039;s a lot of room left for growth. Even moreso now with the PS4&#039;s memory and architecture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/ps4-hasnt-been-nearly-around-long-enough-to-have-its-uncharted-2-let-alone-its-the-last-of-us#comment-245279">Psionicinversion</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but I am afraid that isn&#8217;t the case. PCs at the time were still far more advanced, with faster CPUs, and video cards that had the capacity for significantly more memory, capable of producing higher resolutions and frame rates. They were also significantly more expensive than the consoles available, for obvious reasons. </p>
<p>As for your second statement, if you look at the difference between a launch PS3 title like Genji and compare it to the visuals on The Last of Us, you&#8217;ll see that there&#8217;s a lot of room left for growth. Even moreso now with the PS4&#8217;s memory and architecture.</p>
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