No excuses made, just truth.
Sony made a loss last year, profited the 2 years before that, so that goes right against what you’re saying.

The companies not even close to liquidation, not with almost 100 billion dollars in revenue every year, costs reducing & projections of a $4 billion profit this year after the laptop divisions done.
All that Sony’s really left with now are profit making assets, that’s how much of a negative the Laptop business was & now it’s gone, so with the growing PS business, multiple PS service revenues.

They have a console that’s profitable on hardware alone from the beginning, selling more software than the last platform & also benefiting from the get go on PS+ & soon to gain more from PS Now (along with other, none gaming platforms like streaming to TVs).
Having an excellent movie business, electronics, insurance, semi-conductors & mobile phones.

You only want to see the negative, whereas I have a more honest, objective view as this is what the facts show.

I’m always right. You call a 1.84TF entry level GPU a “Mid-Range”. Hilarious. Keep on shilling, derp. PC will always be the master race

The real “god gaming race” owns both a good PC and consoles, and they find your lies and ignorance disgraceful.

Both PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and maintain one.

PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

PC and PS4 are different markets with different pros and cons. PS4 has price/performance and simplicity, PCs have a higher potential performance, but generally more expensive and requires time and knowledge to buy, build, and maintain one.

PS4 has some interesting architecture benefits over traditional split CPU/GPU split memory pool PCs, and other GPGPU customizations. PS4 is comparable to a mid range PC at 1.84TF considering the APU and GPGPU architecture benefits and low level single platform coding. For $400 you get a lot of price/performance, more than a $400 PC would get you. PS4 is better than most PCs. PS4 will have lots of good exclusives, both console only and PS4 only.

Xbox/PC fanboys seem to be on a war on people too poor or unwilling/unable to spend time and money buying, building, and maintaining a PC. Mustard race claiming they can afford multi-thousand dollar PCs but too poor to buy a $200-400 console.

Both PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and maintain one. Only deranged fanboys keep chewing their own legs off screaming about “PS4 peasants”.

Mustards don’t have “a point”, they just hate anyone who doesn’t have the time, money, or interest in building and maintaining a PC, and hate the fact that consoles offer a comparable gaming experience and exclusive games they can’t have. Unless they grow up and buy a console themselves, not that expensive compared to their imaginary quad SLI 4k PCs.

You sound upset that PS4 is the more powerful console, more developer support, a large number of 1st party studios, and is outselling Xbox by ~3 million. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

It’s good to know you’re completely wrong and raging against facts and reality, and nothing you say will happen. I’m constantly right, you’re constantly wrong.

PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s. Playstation is a net profit and PS4 will gain on that profit.

“2nd fastest selling console ever!!1” Yeah no, sales cratered after the one time delusional fanboy frenzy at launch. It’s going to get WORSE as time goes on, not better. Xbox is shipping under 360 numbers and will soon be selling under 360 numbers.

Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2” markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

The 13 countries Xbox One launched in already account for ~90% of 360’s sales. Remaining countries will be 10% at best, but probably less since it’s launching late, more expensive, and less global appeal than the MURICA’ NFL TV box. I estimate the % of sales from non-launch countries around 5-6% at best.

Furthermore, Xbox is ALREADY AVAILABLE in pretty much every European country as a grey market import. They’re stacked on the shelves of “unlaunched” European countries. That leaves Asia, South America, Middle East, and African countries.

These markets for Xbox are so tiny they might as well be rounding errors. In other words, barely enough to move the global needle, let alone keep it from tracking under the 360 shipped numbers.

I can’t wait for September’s “launch” to arrive with all the sales force of a wet fart. Microsoft fanboys will be left gobbling up a mountain of crow yet again while scrambling for more excuses and straw grasping. Same with this China straw grasping. I’m sorry but that’s reality and if you think Xbox sales are going to skyrocket in September you’re in for some serious crow eating.

Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS shareholders aren’t going to throw endless billions into the Xbox brand that shows little or no sign of turning a profit.

The Xbox brand has lost Microsoft billions of dollars, Xbox One will lose them further billions. Why do you think Microsoft investors keep calling for it to be sold off? Xbox, Bing, Surface, and Windows Phones are all in the same general area of failure and net loss. MS’s consumer products besides Windows have almost all been failures.

OG Xbox lost billions, 360 made some profit but not nearly enough to cover the OG Xbox loss. Xbox One looks like an even bigger loss. Why do you think shareholders keep demanding Xbox be sold off, and execs keep mentioning selling Xbox? It’s a net loss that has lost Microsoft billions of dollars and not likely to turn a net profit anytime soon if ever.

Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

Xbox One will be a net LOSS, not profit. Only question is how much they’re going to lose.

It’s sad PS4 is dominating so badly that you’re left desperately wishing Sony would go bankrupt. Keep dreaming.

Sony is selling or splitting off their lossy businesses (Vaio, TVs) and focusing on their profitable divisions. This means they’ll soon cut their losses and start turning a profit. You should be worried if Sony WASN’T cutting those losing divisions, but they’re making the right business decisions. They won’t ever be an empire again but they aren’t going under.

The gaming division and first party studios are well funded, are in a net profit, and working on PS4 games. During the quarter ending 31st December 2013 the Game business made a profit of $172m off the back of an impressive 64.6 per cent rise in sales year on year. Sony is in for a year or two of losses and restructuring, then provided their profitable divisions stay profitable, they’ll be on solid ground.

Sony is still worth 18.5 billion (in market cap). They just aren’t bringing in enough revenue or profits to bring that number up, and for a time, and probably for a few quarters here or there for the next few years, they might lose money. They also obviously have working capital, because they have games in development right now, and are able to market their newest system and do what they have to do to sell their products. If Sony were on the brink of bankruptcy, we wouldn’t be seeing AAA game announcements with budgets ranging from $50-100 million dollars. If they were on the brink of bankruptcy, they wouldn’t be buying Gaikai, or investing in new tech such as Morpheus or the PS4. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt.

Sony Game, Financial Services, Devices, Music, Mobile Products & Communications, and Pictures are all profitable divisions. They aren’t going anywhere, sorry.

Sony’s market cap is 18.65 billion as of today (2014).
Market cap in 2013 was 17.6 billion it has gone up since then.
Sony is ranked #80 in world as the most valuable brand 2013.

Sony is ranked #506 in the global 2000
#87 in Sales
#171 in Assets
#547 in Market value
78.52 billion dollars in sales in 2013

Sony Games Division FY 1995-2013:
-9+57+117+137+77-51+83+113+68+43+9-232-125-58-56+48+29+2-8 = 244 billion yen net profit

Yes the games division is still a NET PROFIT even after the PS3 losses, PS1 and PS2 were just that successful.

Sony still has over 18 billion in cash reserves, the loss they have is large no doubt about this, was already set aside in restructuring costs, by doing this now they are going to be saving in over 1 billion in costs! This takes time, and in that time if Sony did not do what the board has done it would have been far worse, over 2 billion in further losses.

The point is playstation stock is not for public buy in. Sony has over 148 billion in physical assets, sony could indeed liquidate every thing except for smart phones, entertainment and playstation and still have paid off debt, and still have 18 billion on hand to invest back into the three core pillars of the company.

PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

You sound upset that PS4 is the more powerful console, more developer support, a large number of 1st party studios, and is outselling Xbox by ~3 million. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

It’s good to know you’re completely wrong and raging against facts and reality, and nothing you say will happen. I’m constantly right, you’re constantly wrong.

PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s. Playstation is a net profit and PS4 will gain on that profit.

“2nd fastest selling console ever!!1” Yeah no, sales cratered after the one time delusional fanboy frenzy at launch. It’s going to get WORSE as time goes on, not better. Xbox is shipping under 360 numbers and will soon be selling under 360 numbers.

Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2” markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

The 13 countries Xbox One launched in already account for ~90% of 360’s sales. Remaining countries will be 10% at best, but probably less since it’s launching late, more expensive, and less global appeal than the MURICA’ NFL TV box. I estimate the % of sales from non-launch countries around 5-6% at best.

Furthermore, Xbox is ALREADY AVAILABLE in pretty much every European country as a grey market import. They’re stacked on the shelves of “unlaunched” European countries. That leaves Asia, South America, Middle East, and African countries.

These markets for Xbox are so tiny they might as well be rounding errors. In other words, barely enough to move the global needle, let alone keep it from tracking under the 360 shipped numbers.

I can’t wait for September’s “launch” to arrive with all the sales force of a wet fart. Microsoft fanboys will be left gobbling up a mountain of crow yet again while scrambling for more excuses and straw grasping. Same with this China straw grasping. I’m sorry but that’s reality and if you think Xbox sales are going to skyrocket in September you’re in for some serious crow eating.

Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS shareholders aren’t going to throw endless billions into the Xbox brand that shows little or no sign of turning a profit.

The Xbox brand has lost Microsoft billions of dollars, Xbox One will lose them further billions. Why do you think Microsoft investors keep calling for it to be sold off? Xbox, Bing, Surface, and Windows Phones are all in the same general area of failure and net loss. MS’s consumer products besides Windows have almost all been failures.

OG Xbox lost billions, 360 made some profit but not nearly enough to cover the OG Xbox loss. Xbox One looks like an even bigger loss. Why do you think shareholders keep demanding Xbox be sold off, and execs keep mentioning selling Xbox? It’s a net loss that has lost Microsoft billions of dollars and not likely to turn a net profit anytime soon if ever.

Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

Xbox One will be a net LOSS, not profit. Only question is how much they’re going to lose.

It’s sad PS4 is dominating so badly that you’re left desperately wishing Sony would go bankrupt. Keep dreaming.

Sony is selling or splitting off their lossy businesses (Vaio, TVs) and focusing on their profitable divisions. This means they’ll soon cut their losses and start turning a profit. You should be worried if Sony WASN’T cutting those losing divisions, but they’re making the right business decisions. They won’t ever be an empire again but they aren’t going under.

The gaming division and first party studios are well funded, are in a net profit, and working on PS4 games. During the quarter ending 31st December 2013 the Game business made a profit of $172m off the back of an impressive 64.6 per cent rise in sales year on year. Sony is in for a year or two of losses and restructuring, then provided their profitable divisions stay profitable, they’ll be on solid ground.

Sony is still worth 18.5 billion (in market cap). They just aren’t bringing in enough revenue or profits to bring that number up, and for a time, and probably for a few quarters here or there for the next few years, they might lose money. They also obviously have working capital, because they have games in development right now, and are able to market their newest system and do what they have to do to sell their products. If Sony were on the brink of bankruptcy, we wouldn’t be seeing AAA game announcements with budgets ranging from $50-100 million dollars. If they were on the brink of bankruptcy, they wouldn’t be buying Gaikai, or investing in new tech such as Morpheus or the PS4. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt.

Sony Game, Financial Services, Devices, Music, Mobile Products & Communications, and Pictures are all profitable divisions. They aren’t going anywhere, sorry.

Sony’s market cap is 18.65 billion as of today (2014).
Market cap in 2013 was 17.6 billion it has gone up since then.
Sony is ranked #80 in world as the most valuable brand 2013.

Sony is ranked #506 in the global 2000
#87 in Sales
#171 in Assets
#547 in Market value
78.52 billion dollars in sales in 2013

Sony Games Division FY 1995-2013:
-9+57+117+137+77-51+83+113+68+43+9-232-125-58-56+48+29+2-8 = 244 billion yen net profit

Yes the games division is still a NET PROFIT even after the PS3 losses, PS1 and PS2 were just that successful.

Sony still has over 18 billion in cash reserves, the loss they have is large no doubt about this, was already set aside in restructuring costs, by doing this now they are going to be saving in over 1 billion in costs! This takes time, and in that time if Sony did not do what the board has done it would have been far worse, over 2 billion in further losses.

The point is playstation stock is not for public buy in. Sony has over 148 billion in physical assets, sony could indeed liquidate every thing except for smart phones, entertainment and playstation and still have paid off debt, and still have 18 billion on hand to invest back into the three core pillars of the company.

PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

Sony has more 1st party studios actually working on PS4 games (not mobile or cloud or whatever) and 1st party franchises.

PS4 has the superior version of all console AAA multiplats, more dev support including indies, a large number of first party studios, free to play games and MMOs like FFXIV and Warframe, and unannounced 1st party games (Gran Turismo, God of War, Media Molecule, Quantic Dream, etc.) Titanfall 2 and future 3rd party games will almost certainly be on PS4.

PS4 games not on Xbox One: Killzone, inFamous Second Son, Dynasty Warriors 8, Final Fantasy XIV, Warframe, DC Universe, Yakuza Isshin and other Japanese games, MLB 14 The Show, Bound by Flame, Injustice Gods Among Us, Knack, Natural Doctrine, Transistor, Planetside 2, Dragon Ball Z, MotoGP, Deep Down, Driveclub, The Last of Us, The Witness, The Order, and a ton of indies including Resogun and Transistor

Recently Sony has filed trademarks or had leaks for no less than 6 games. Entwined, Kill Strain, Blood Borne, Dark Chronicles, Project Beast and Guns Up. Expect a big E3 reveal of new games.

PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

And we all know this is PS4lol go back under your bridge you waste of daddy’s ball juice

Sony has lost huge revenue 4 out of the last 5 years. Dude quit making excuses Sony is in serious financial distress and close to company liquidation.