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		By: Garrett		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 06:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with you. The SOS is so OP. just now i was playing on hotel and the whole other team wa using retros and sawed offs. I kepted getting flanked by the retro and the sawed off. If i leave cover i get shot to death. I can never win shotgun battles against the SOS. I use the lancer and the gnasher. I am not trying to sound cocking but i am good at gers of war. I usally go 13-2 8-2 23-10 and so on.i think epic tried to fix it by addin the old school game mode, problem is you can&#039;t go on ranked. I cant wait for judgment because there is no retro and no SOS]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you. The SOS is so OP. just now i was playing on hotel and the whole other team wa using retros and sawed offs. I kepted getting flanked by the retro and the sawed off. If i leave cover i get shot to death. I can never win shotgun battles against the SOS. I use the lancer and the gnasher. I am not trying to sound cocking but i am good at gers of war. I usally go 13-2 8-2 23-10 and so on.i think epic tried to fix it by addin the old school game mode, problem is you can&#8217;t go on ranked. I cant wait for judgment because there is no retro and no SOS</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 04:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only baddies have egos, only baddies say their good, only baddies complain about weapons.
Lets face it gears 3 is not gears 1 or 2.  Know what if they came out with a gears 4 all of you would buy it, then complain that it isnt gears 1.  Just because you were good at one game doesnt mean you are going to be good at all of them.  Adapt to the new play style and stop bitching.  I dont even play gears, I hate the game but that first statement translates to every game, period.  The worst players have the biggest egos, and the best players dont care, you know why?  Because they play the game for FUN,  they dont bring out their best stuff until tournament play.  They love the game they play, and that&#039;s why they are good at it.  Instead of bitching about how this one gun is overpowered, why dont you just use it and use the superior skills you are talking about to kill the OMG WTF SOS NOOB, oh wait you cant, because HE IS BETTER THAN YOU!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only baddies have egos, only baddies say their good, only baddies complain about weapons.<br />
Lets face it gears 3 is not gears 1 or 2.  Know what if they came out with a gears 4 all of you would buy it, then complain that it isnt gears 1.  Just because you were good at one game doesnt mean you are going to be good at all of them.  Adapt to the new play style and stop bitching.  I dont even play gears, I hate the game but that first statement translates to every game, period.  The worst players have the biggest egos, and the best players dont care, you know why?  Because they play the game for FUN,  they dont bring out their best stuff until tournament play.  They love the game they play, and that&#8217;s why they are good at it.  Instead of bitching about how this one gun is overpowered, why dont you just use it and use the superior skills you are talking about to kill the OMG WTF SOS NOOB, oh wait you cant, because HE IS BETTER THAN YOU!</p>
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		By: Deo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 23:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I completely dislike the sawed-off shotgun and the retro-lancer. This game would be close to perfect(with the exception of some major lag issues and hitbox controversies on some characters) if theses guns were nerfed. My experiences with the sawed-off is that it has a longer range than the gnasher at some points of time. And nowadays allmost all sawed-off users use the retro-lancer also. And they simply spray and prey with that gun if they fail to kill with the sawed-off. They don&#039;t even try to escape anymore. And miraculously it is more accurate than it seems.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely dislike the sawed-off shotgun and the retro-lancer. This game would be close to perfect(with the exception of some major lag issues and hitbox controversies on some characters) if theses guns were nerfed. My experiences with the sawed-off is that it has a longer range than the gnasher at some points of time. And nowadays allmost all sawed-off users use the retro-lancer also. And they simply spray and prey with that gun if they fail to kill with the sawed-off. They don&#8217;t even try to escape anymore. And miraculously it is more accurate than it seems.</p>
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		By: Gabe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I to hate the shat-off, its such a shame that, while cliff said that it is for NEW players, it is being used by at least 65% of players, and dont get me started on that piece of garbage EPIC calls a retro lancer. I agree with all of you fellow TRUE gears gamers that they need to do one of the following things to the SOS(listen. . .READ up epic)
1:MAKE  SOS A POWER WEPON( PICK-UP)
2:PUTT IN A MORE &quot;CASUAL&quot;(nooby) GAME MODE
3:MAKE A CLASSIC GAMEMODE(NO RETROS OR SOSs)
4:REMOVE IT COPLETELY(MY PERSONAL FAVORITE)
5:OPTION #4 AND FLAME COD]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I to hate the shat-off, its such a shame that, while cliff said that it is for NEW players, it is being used by at least 65% of players, and dont get me started on that piece of garbage EPIC calls a retro lancer. I agree with all of you fellow TRUE gears gamers that they need to do one of the following things to the SOS(listen. . .READ up epic)<br />
1:MAKE  SOS A POWER WEPON( PICK-UP)<br />
2:PUTT IN A MORE &#8220;CASUAL&#8221;(nooby) GAME MODE<br />
3:MAKE A CLASSIC GAMEMODE(NO RETROS OR SOSs)<br />
4:REMOVE IT COPLETELY(MY PERSONAL FAVORITE)<br />
5:OPTION #4 AND FLAME COD</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Ben		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 03:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Things would be so much better if the just made the sawed off shotgun a pick up on the map instead of everyone starting with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things would be so much better if the just made the sawed off shotgun a pick up on the map instead of everyone starting with it.</p>
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		By: Aalex		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 23:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mmm... I think that the solution is to add a classic playlist in which players cant choose retronoob, and sawesnoob. With this playlist all people will b happy !!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm&#8230; I think that the solution is to add a classic playlist in which players cant choose retronoob, and sawesnoob. With this playlist all people will b happy !!!!</p>
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		By: That guy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 09:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now I never really did play the heaping piece of shit that I call Gears 2. It was a horrible game (Had it since launch, matchmaking was horrendous, gameplay was slow as fuck).  I had to spend an extra two years on Gears 1 every single night. That game is that damn good.  Now I agree with what Energy said...clutching in a match is literally impossible when you have scrubs running around with sawed off&#039;s; or using retro lancers while sawed off&#039;s are coming at you. Sure people say adapt and all this shit, but seriously? How are we suppose to counter 2, 3, 4 or even 5 players using the noob weapon setup and coming at you at all once? In Gears 1, I&#039;ve had countless of matches where it was 1 against 4-7 (7 by annex matches with friendly fire) without being host and you could still be able to clutch it taking out everyone by using wit and using skill. That&#039;s what made the game great, that&#039;s the &quot;wild card factor&quot; Gears 3 does not have. That&#039;s why I could still pop in Gears 1 right now and play it knowing I&#039;m going to have fun whether I win or lose. I feel Gears 3 is good as well, but sawed off is was mostly ruins it and is a cancer to the game.

Now what I&#039;m trying to say here is I can bet you that if anyone who was extremely good in both Gears 1 and Gears 2 and use the noob weapon setup will realize  that it&#039;s extremely easy to get kills using little to no skill. Regular Gnashers users aren&#039;t afraid of rushing recklessly or smart, so put a sawed off in their hands and that only makes things worse. Using the retro lancer which is capable of downing two people in one clip is stupid on its own. Those two weapons alone kill what Gears was known for and that was shotgun battles. I don&#039;t want to use those weapons since it does feel cheap getting kills with them and also don&#039;t want to play like a complete unskillful fag. Now using the regular setup which is lancer/hammerburst/gnasher is challenging, but sometimes it does get impossible when you have sawed of users running around and rushing at the same person.

Sure you can down one, but here comes another, you could get him too, but by that time you&#039;re getting shot by the third person from far away, even if you were able to escape and highly aware that the fourth and fifth guy is flanking you. You have no options but keep falling back until there is no where to go and right then and there. (Somewhat of a horrible example, but you get the idea.) You can only do so much and even invent shit on the spot and it isn&#039;t enough. 

Now listen to the assholes at Epic if anyone is reading this...if I wanted to play Call of Duty, I&#039;ll just pop in Call of Duty and get kills in one shot with any shotgun or shoot a weapon long range.  

When I want Gears, I guess I&#039;ll have to pop in Gears 1. It really sad how you guys made such a great game that was known Gears 1 only for it to be a fluke. Oh and by the way, to those who said they shouldn&#039;t have catered to &quot;new customers, new to series, casual gamers&quot; If they didn&#039;t listen to us hardcore Gears 1 fans, they definitely won&#039;t listen to hardcore Gears 2 fans. 

Okay I&#039;m just ranting here. Yes, I&#039;m a Gears 1 fan and I&#039;ll probably get heat for that, but the thing is that people who are fans of One or Two have an understanding and know what&#039;s fucked up in Gears 3 and what&#039;s not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I never really did play the heaping piece of shit that I call Gears 2. It was a horrible game (Had it since launch, matchmaking was horrendous, gameplay was slow as fuck).  I had to spend an extra two years on Gears 1 every single night. That game is that damn good.  Now I agree with what Energy said&#8230;clutching in a match is literally impossible when you have scrubs running around with sawed off&#8217;s; or using retro lancers while sawed off&#8217;s are coming at you. Sure people say adapt and all this shit, but seriously? How are we suppose to counter 2, 3, 4 or even 5 players using the noob weapon setup and coming at you at all once? In Gears 1, I&#8217;ve had countless of matches where it was 1 against 4-7 (7 by annex matches with friendly fire) without being host and you could still be able to clutch it taking out everyone by using wit and using skill. That&#8217;s what made the game great, that&#8217;s the &#8220;wild card factor&#8221; Gears 3 does not have. That&#8217;s why I could still pop in Gears 1 right now and play it knowing I&#8217;m going to have fun whether I win or lose. I feel Gears 3 is good as well, but sawed off is was mostly ruins it and is a cancer to the game.</p>
<p>Now what I&#8217;m trying to say here is I can bet you that if anyone who was extremely good in both Gears 1 and Gears 2 and use the noob weapon setup will realize  that it&#8217;s extremely easy to get kills using little to no skill. Regular Gnashers users aren&#8217;t afraid of rushing recklessly or smart, so put a sawed off in their hands and that only makes things worse. Using the retro lancer which is capable of downing two people in one clip is stupid on its own. Those two weapons alone kill what Gears was known for and that was shotgun battles. I don&#8217;t want to use those weapons since it does feel cheap getting kills with them and also don&#8217;t want to play like a complete unskillful fag. Now using the regular setup which is lancer/hammerburst/gnasher is challenging, but sometimes it does get impossible when you have sawed of users running around and rushing at the same person.</p>
<p>Sure you can down one, but here comes another, you could get him too, but by that time you&#8217;re getting shot by the third person from far away, even if you were able to escape and highly aware that the fourth and fifth guy is flanking you. You have no options but keep falling back until there is no where to go and right then and there. (Somewhat of a horrible example, but you get the idea.) You can only do so much and even invent shit on the spot and it isn&#8217;t enough. </p>
<p>Now listen to the assholes at Epic if anyone is reading this&#8230;if I wanted to play Call of Duty, I&#8217;ll just pop in Call of Duty and get kills in one shot with any shotgun or shoot a weapon long range.  </p>
<p>When I want Gears, I guess I&#8217;ll have to pop in Gears 1. It really sad how you guys made such a great game that was known Gears 1 only for it to be a fluke. Oh and by the way, to those who said they shouldn&#8217;t have catered to &#8220;new customers, new to series, casual gamers&#8221; If they didn&#8217;t listen to us hardcore Gears 1 fans, they definitely won&#8217;t listen to hardcore Gears 2 fans. </p>
<p>Okay I&#8217;m just ranting here. Yes, I&#8217;m a Gears 1 fan and I&#8217;ll probably get heat for that, but the thing is that people who are fans of One or Two have an understanding and know what&#8217;s fucked up in Gears 3 and what&#8217;s not.</p>
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		By: toxiclum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gamingbolt.com/sawed-off-shotgun-is-ruining-gears-3-multiplayer-epic-are-you-listening#comment-100456&quot;&gt;who&lt;/a&gt;.

So someone&#039;s gameplay should be drastically changed because of one controversial weapon? What about wing man?????                                                                      Where you either camp and be lucky for people to come to you without a SOS, or people WILL camp with the SOS and you have to go to them (because the most kills = win) ????????                                                                                                                                    It&#039;s total bullshit, they&#039;ll always have the advantage just because of that gun and you you&#039;re saying that people will have to use a totally different gun to counter it??? So to counter ONE weapon you&#039;ll restrict your self to close range only weapons? and btw people with the SOS ALWAYS CAMP. 95% of the time AT THE VERY LEAST.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gamingbolt.com/sawed-off-shotgun-is-ruining-gears-3-multiplayer-epic-are-you-listening#comment-100456">who</a>.</p>
<p>So someone&#8217;s gameplay should be drastically changed because of one controversial weapon? What about wing man?????                                                                      Where you either camp and be lucky for people to come to you without a SOS, or people WILL camp with the SOS and you have to go to them (because the most kills = win) ????????                                                                                                                                    It&#8217;s total bullshit, they&#8217;ll always have the advantage just because of that gun and you you&#8217;re saying that people will have to use a totally different gun to counter it??? So to counter ONE weapon you&#8217;ll restrict your self to close range only weapons? and btw people with the SOS ALWAYS CAMP. 95% of the time AT THE VERY LEAST.</p>
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		By: toxiclum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t believe they put such an OP fucking weapon in this game seriously, It&#039;s the ONLY thing that makes me angry or rage in this game..., can&#039;t believe they would build a master piece only to throw a shit brick through it. 

It encourages camping with the single fire and long reload time -.- even if people say it&#039;s not OP - people DO just camp at the vantage point of the map and corner camp and insta-kill you, jesus christ I&#039;m so wound up over who&#039;s fucking idea this was. 

Epic can forget about any DLC from me when bf3 comes out I&#039;ll probably be spending a lot more time in that if the SOS stays put.                                          Even the description of the sawed-off isn&#039;t true &quot;Ineffective past melee range&quot; No, not true, still an insta-kill from past melee range -.-

After being in a few matches where at least 4 of the enemy team players had a SOS I got angry and joined them needless to say, being the first full match of using it I got at least 4 single kills (seriously without any real effort) and a double kill with one shot, it&#039;s so fucking easy to use.

 well done Epic a third nail in the gow coffin, first and incredible fast paced laggy as hell game, a slow as fuck and awful sequel and now everything is perfect connection wise, damage wise in the third and final game, minus the SOS which is even worse than hitler.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe they put such an OP fucking weapon in this game seriously, It&#8217;s the ONLY thing that makes me angry or rage in this game&#8230;, can&#8217;t believe they would build a master piece only to throw a shit brick through it. </p>
<p>It encourages camping with the single fire and long reload time -.- even if people say it&#8217;s not OP &#8211; people DO just camp at the vantage point of the map and corner camp and insta-kill you, jesus christ I&#8217;m so wound up over who&#8217;s fucking idea this was. </p>
<p>Epic can forget about any DLC from me when bf3 comes out I&#8217;ll probably be spending a lot more time in that if the SOS stays put.                                          Even the description of the sawed-off isn&#8217;t true &#8220;Ineffective past melee range&#8221; No, not true, still an insta-kill from past melee range -.-</p>
<p>After being in a few matches where at least 4 of the enemy team players had a SOS I got angry and joined them needless to say, being the first full match of using it I got at least 4 single kills (seriously without any real effort) and a double kill with one shot, it&#8217;s so fucking easy to use.</p>
<p> well done Epic a third nail in the gow coffin, first and incredible fast paced laggy as hell game, a slow as fuck and awful sequel and now everything is perfect connection wise, damage wise in the third and final game, minus the SOS which is even worse than hitler.</p>
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