Climax Dev On Xbox Scorpio vs PS4 PRO: Competition Between Platforms Is Positive For Everyone

“Games as a medium are tied to the technology they run on.”

Posted By | On 16th, Mar. 2017 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605

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The console war this generation has been more marked by the technical aspects of gaming than in any generation before. Previous generations often saw people arguing over games– I mean, yes, the technological aspects were still argued (’16-bits’, ‘blast processing’, ‘Mode-7′, ’64 bits’, ‘CD-ROMs’, ‘The Cell’), but that was always second fiddle to the argument about games.

And yet, this generation, probably because the PS4 and Xbox One share most of their lineup, it looks like the discussion is no longer about the games, but about the dots and lines each system can output to the screen. That’s not about to change either, given the release of the PS4 Pro and the impending release of the Xbox Scorpio.

What do game developers think of this relentless march towards an emphasis on the technology of gaming? When we got a chance to speak to Jamie Fisher of Climax Studios, the folks behind the Surf World Series, we asked him that question.

“Games as a medium are tied to the technology they run on in a way that, I’d argue, no other medium really is,” Fisher said. “So that progress towards more powerful platforms is always exciting; in that it moves the medium forward. On the competition between platform holders. I think it’s a net positive for everyone. Developers have more resources to play with and players have a vibrant, competitive landscape to choose from.”

Thoughts on his comments? Let us know your thoughts below and stay tuned for our full interview with Jamie in the coming days.

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  • EverybodyHatesDoug

    Soooo, let me get this right Doug,….he’s basically saying that Phil Spinner was crying like a bi tch a month ago when he said that successful PS4 exclusive games like Horizon Zero Dawn shouldn’t be used as a weapon against Xbox in the console war.

    • kma99

      Let me vet this straight. Yoshida was crying when he was ask about tomb raider being exclusive for a year. Let me get this straight. Mark cerny was crying like a B%$$$^ when trying to damage control checkerboard 4k to native.

    • justerthought

      MS are forced to try and derail Horizon Zero Dawn because it basically threatens the whole Scorpio concept. Horizon Zero Dawn is filling a 4K screen with silky smooth awesome imagery on very cheep hardware. Compare that to Scorpio which is going for expensive brute force native 4K which will end up doing exactly the same thing.

  • Luke Skywalker

    Some take gaming as a way of life instead of a hobby

    • Mark

      A wise man named Puerto Rock recently said “Some people love the sh*t talking more than the hobby. Even if they didn’t watch the Giants game, they just show up to talk trash about it”. Ahahaa. In short, ur right. I’d like to see what a Psyche doctor has to say about this lol

  • Riggybro

    I found this “competition” talk a bit suspicious at the beginning of the current gen… why did both PS4 and XB1 both use the same watered down CPU’s and although the GPU’s had different different spec they were from the same family and both were unusually low grade for when they released.

    It seemed an incredible coincidence that two apparently competing companies came up such similar solutions…

    • C. Hoffer

      That can be pretty logical to explain from a customer/mfg’er relationship point of view.

      Both companies approach the cpu/gpu manufacturers and request a specific power envelope that can handle ‘x’ tasks. ‘x’ tasks would be very similar for both Sony & M$. Play games, multimedia, etc.

      The manufacturers come back with “Here is the chipset/cpu/gpu combination that we make that will meet your needs.”

      In the case of M$ and their cost cutting (to R$D) to the Xbox division, they likely said “We had a proprietary modification to our last system and it worked well. Rather than re-invent the wheel, we would like to implement that on this new system as well. Can you do it with minimal cost?”

      In the case of Sony and their previous system challenges, they likely said “Our last system was powerful but had memory bandwidth issues. What do you have that is more mainstream and provides a lot of memory bandwidth as we know that is important (from experience).”

      Result is similar systems.

    • justerthought

      The reason why both Sony and MS are using the same tech this gen is because AMD are setting the pace by developing the tech. AMD developed the tech and went to Sony and MS as potential customers and claimed that PC scalability would be good way forward for both of them.

      Yes it was. And it’s great. It gave birth to the best console ever made.
      Both platform holders were allowed to tinker with the design to add custom features, but unfortunately MS made all the wrong decisions with the XB1, so expect Scorpio to be powerful PS4 clone.

  • Mr Xrat

    Hmmm. Very non-committal. Interesting.

    Will CrapGamer make a video about this, I wonder?

  • BermudaTriangle

    I’m not buying into the Scorpio vs. PS4 PRO concept. You have to admire Sony for breaking the cycle of Microsoft’s attempts to shadow the Playstation with their Xbox and its odd naming conventions.

    PS4 PRO arrived just in time to capitalize on Christmas sales, and be the first to offer quality VR at a good price all the while catering for 4K television owners. By the time Scorpio arrives, the VR novelty just might be over. At some point during the Scorpio’s life-cycle, Sony will announce Playstation 5, thus the Xbox Playstation cycles should be out of sync with one another other by roughly 3 to 5 years, which can only be a good thing.

    • Gamez Rule

      2017 = New IPs / Full exclusives only on console / VR / More games in general = Sony & PS4

      2017 = No new IPs / No full exclusives only on console / No VR / Less games in general = MS & Xbone

      PS4-Pro = same offerings as PS4
      P-Scorpio = same offerings as Xbone

      PS4 is selling better than PS4-Pro = power doesn’t mean everything. ( P-Scorpio may not sell more than Xbone due to the above already shown via PS4/PS4-Pro.

    • Eddie Battikha

      Sony will control the Market the next 2 years because of their Exclusives. I. Just Curious too see if PS5 comes out Fall 2018 or Fall 2019.

    • justerthought

      Fall 2019, early 2020. PS4 Pro has a 3 year span. It’s a mid gen console in a 6 year gen.

    • Eddie Battikha

      Sony had a job listing late May 2015 for a senior Programmer to work on their next gen system. I could easily see PS5 launching Fall 2018 to destroy Scorpio even though Fall 2019 makes more sense.

    • justerthought

      The new PS4 Pro is not a replacement for the PS4. It’s an elite mid gen upgrade for those that want it. It’s basically more of the same.

      XB Scorpio on the other hand is not an XB1 upgrade. It’s designed to fix everything that was wrong with the XB1 and try to get MS back into contention. But it’s price is going to knock it back into second place again, unless MS sell at a loss.

    • Gamez Rule

      Scorpio IMO is an elite mid gen upgrade for those that want it. Just like PS4-Pro is as otherwise it could be classed as MS’s next gen console.

      As for price debate people that want Scorpio will pay, just like what we witnessed with PS3 vs 360 prices back in the day. IMO the price isn’t the thing to worry about, it’s the lack of support when compared to what we already have with PS4/Pro that could hold back sales on Scorpio.

      Best way to explain SS & DS is an image is rendered at a higher resolution from the one the display uses(supersampled), & resized to said resolution using algorithms just like the ones used when resizing an image in an image editing software(downsampled). Either way it works wonders on PS4-Pro and should do on Scorpio.

    • Eddie Battikha

      I’m really enjoying my PRO on my LGB6, With the Exclusives that Sony will be realasing in the next 2 years I would think Fall 2019 for PS5 would be perfect. I believe Sony always wanted PS5 Fall 2018 since they had a Senior Programer listing to work on A Next Gen Machine on May 2015. I’m in either way we’ll see how it goes.

  • justerthought

    The reason why the games are playing second fiddle this gen to the technology is because devs like this one have made the games multiplatform to sell the most product. The biggest differentiator is now the tech not the exclusives.

  • justerthought

    Are you inferring head looks too big for his body with the broad chesty shoulders and tiny legs …lol

    • Mark

      Ahaha. Whoever did that, they’ve way too much time on their hands

  • LordCancer Kain

    competition? microsoft is like a cocky mma fighter taunting in the middle of a fight flopping around after getting knocked out. lights out, game over.

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