DiRT 4 Running At 4K/60fps On Xbox Scorpio Is “Theoretically” Possible, PS4/Xbox One Version May Use Dynamic Resolution

But no plans to support Scorpio yet.

Posted By | On 04th, Jun. 2017 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


The Xbox One Scorpio is coming later this year, and it appears to be a pretty damn powerful system. It’s certainly powerful enough for most developers targetting the Xbox One base spec as to be able to get some extra juice out of it.

So when we had the chance to talk to Paul Coleman of Codemasters, Chief Game Designer on DiRT 4, we figured we would ask him if the developer will be trying to leverage the new hardware for some extra visual pizazz, especially given that the PC version of the game already supports high end specs. Could the Scorpio version of the game support, for instance, 4K at 60fps for DiRT 4?

“I think it will be interesting to try,” Coleman said measuredly. “We know many of our PC community enjoy DiRT Rally in 4k so it is theoretically possible.” But Coleman was quick to point out that nothing is planned yet. “The tech guys won’t be happy with me making any promises so you’ll just have to wait and see. We haven’t got any plans to support Scorpio at the moment but it really is too early for us to be making any decisions about it”

He also confirmed that the PS4 and Xbox One versions will be targeting 60fps and in order to achieve that they may be using dynamic resolution. “60fps is the most important thing for us. Our aim is to run it at 1080p as much as we can, but we dynamically drop the resolution to maintain the framerate if we have to.”

Which is more than fair. DiRT 4 is due out on the Xbox One, PS4, and PC next week. Stay tuned to GamingBolt for our full interview on DiRT 4.


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      Turdza games look like they date from 2007.

    • Baraka

      Why are you using a likebot?

    • Mark

      Lol. He thinks the more likes u have, the more right u seem…

    • Smart guy

      Lol

  • Living While Alive

    Expect alot of 3rd party native 4k 60fps games @ E3

    • Mr Xrat

      Did you even read the article, Xgimp?

      Assassin’s Creed, Shadow of War and, erm, that’ll probably be your lot.

  • greatnessIsaLIE

    I hope they get a Scorpio patch going. I’ll still play the game but Scorpio support would be a plus.

    • HaCkEr_Fc

      Xbox Scorpio isn’t PlayStation 4 Pro that needs a day one patch on every game. Universal Windows Platform will scale the the graphical settings down on games from Xbox Scorpio to Xbox One, similar to Windows PC.

    • Baraka

      I never knew UWP did that, pretty cool.

    • Mr Xrat

      For minor improvements with dynamic res games. For actual improvements, you’ll need a patch.

    • Fweds

      That’s correct .

    • not uwp,its the system wide boost.

    • Living While Alive

      No its UWP. Get your facts straight snowflake.

    • Dan Giambrone

      Existing XB1 and Xbox 360 games running on the XB1 will not run at higher resolutions such as 4K, or see boasts to geometry, effects, draw-distances……. unless they are patched. What you will get without a patch is better texture filtering, more consistent frame-rates, less screen tearing, dynamic resolution games (Halo 5, Witcher 3, Titanfall 2 etc) retaining their maximum output more often. Loading times should also see a considerable improvement thanks to the faster CPU, bandwidth, and hard-drive. Think of it as a much better version of the PS4 Pro’s boost mode.

    • HaCkEr_Fc

      I should’ve clarified it better. I was on about new games that’s releasing on Scorpio and Xbox One this year, not existing games.

    • Jp mccann

      Much better version of pros boost mode? If what you’re saying is true the only thing on your list that pro doesn’t do is improve texture filtering. Not really worth the extra 100-150 bucks you will pay for scorpio. Throw in the fact that it literally has no exclusives I’m not impressed in the slightest.

    • Smart guy

      So your impressed with the pro and not the Scorpio? Lol wow I have and Xbox s and a standard ps4 so I enjoy all games but the day I got the “pro” I returned it the next. Terrible upgrade but Scorpio is worth every penny. Everyone has opinions but yours was a little…odd

    • Jp mccann

      I’m impressed with what the pro does for the price I paid for it yes. The extra storage pretty much covers the extra expense, never mind the boost in specs. But it can’t do true 4k you say? Well considering the vast majority of gamers, including me don’t own a 4k tv yet that’s not a problem. 4k won’t be standard until around the time of the ps5s release, in about 2 years. By that stage sets will be a lot cheaper and hdr technology will be better, and a ” true 4k ” console will actually be in demand. Sony developed the pro prematurely to speed up sales of their 4k tvs, that’s all. You want me to be impressed with microsoft when they blindly copy sony, releasing a 4k console, that there is very little demand for when they desperately need to sell consoles? I’m not. Microsoft should have had the brains to realize what sony were up to and instead of boosting Scorpios resolution, they could have boosted performance, releasing a 1080 60 console. People would have actually bought that.

    • Smart guy

      No they did not copy sony lol The Scorpio hit 4k 60 fps will more then enough power left over. That is true 4k 🙂

    • Jp mccann

      No cure for stupid. Maybe some day though. Got my fingers crossed for you lad, good luck hahaha.

    • Smart guy

      Lol It’s all good it’s obviously too late for you already 🙂 I’ll enjoy games on both consoles while you type away useless comments. Later

    • Dan Giambrone

      The Pro is a very nice of kit and offers terrific pound-for-pound value. What’s really holding it back is the support from both Sony & third party developers – you just don’t know what benefits you’re going to get, if any, from one title to the next. Especially for 1080p tv owners and the super-sampling farce. When you get titles like Rise of the Tomb Raider, Horizon: Zero Dawn and Wipeout, that do take advantage of it, the enhancements are clear to see.

    • Smart guy

      I’ve seen them but even on my LG OLED 4k tv it wasn’t worth it. 4k 60fps will be the standard starting with the Scorpio and will only improve but not with the pro. In the terms of hardware it will continue to get left behind until a ps5 where Scorpio will keep the advantage until then and the next Xbox. Either way happy gaming and enjoy what you enjoy

    • Dan Giambrone

      Jp, I agree with you, especially about the games. What’s the point in having a Ferrari if you’ve barely any petrol in the tank?!! Microsoft are really going to have to release some ‘must have’ new IP’s, or resuscitate/secure the rights to gems such as Half Life (one can dream) to get the casuals/non zealots onboard. Going back to the ‘boost mode’: the PS4 Pro only allows the unpatched PS4 games to take advantage of the higher clock speeds of both the CPU and GPU, (I’m not certain if the older games utilize the RAMs additional bandwidth) whereas the Scorpio opens up it’s full power to legacy titles, so everything that the Pro does and also the full power of it’s compute units and it’s larger pool of memory. So older multi-platform XB1 titles running on Scorpio should, in theory, have frame-rate (consistency), texture filtering, screen tearing etc advantages over the PS4 versions. That said, PS4 versions will still have the advantage when it comes to effects: e.g. greater foliage/bloom in GTA V, and titles such as Tomb Raider: DE which had a frame -rate cap of 30fps on XB1, but is unlocked on PS4.

    • Jp mccann

      Hello Dan wassap bud. Listen I first want to apologize if my comment was a bit snippy, when I start arguing I get in the zone. But you seem to know your stuff so I have a question. I know how pro boosts non patched games. The pro has a double gpu, 36 compute units, twice that of the original ps4. Ps4 games are designed to run on 18 compute units. When you run an unpatched game on pro it just uses the 18 units over clocked along with the over clocked cpu. So the hardware is actually identical to base ps4 accept faster. Opening up the other 18 units on an unpatched game would actually not show any improvement. But as Scorpios hardware is completely different how can it boost unpatched games that weren’t designed to run on that hardware?

    • Dan Giambrone

      No need to apologize! Given the rampant fanboy culture that pervades almost all gaming threads, it’s easy to fall into the trap of thinking that someone is defending their tribe when they post a positive comment about a particular platform. I’ve never subscribed to the fanboy mentality. I judge everything on its individual merits. Fanboy mentality is just an overt manifestation of ones own insecurities. Your question is a good one, and tbh, I don’t know the answer. If I was to hazard a guess, I would say that clock-speeds are just one facet of processing power and that those compute units give you considerably more processing power. Going forward, I expect to see more games shifting traditional CPU tasks to the GPU and those compute engines, especially in the area of AI, because things haven’t really moved on in this area since the likes of Halo:CE, Half-Life 2, & FEAR. If anything, it feels like it’s gone backwards.

  • Mr Xrat

    Theoretically.

    Oh dear!

    • Fweds

      I think they are talking in terms of if the company were to hold back Scorpios power to be in line with the underpowered PS Protato.

    • J.j. Barrington

      And why would they do that? The Pro isn’t held back to be in line with the base PS4 or the even weaker XB1.

      Some of you guys just must not have fully functioning brains.

  • Riggybro

    Another driving game.

    We’ll have to wait until the end of the year I guess to get an idea of how a multiplat non-corridor, non-driving game functions on Scorpio to compare properly to all the other formats.

    • spideynut71

      Or in 6 days, at E3 ???

    • Riggybro

      I expect E3 for the Scorpio to be similar to the Digital Foundary thing.
      Very narrow, tightly controlled and effectively comparing itself to itself.

      End of the year we’ll get to see some 3rd party AAA’s so we can compare things in more practical terms.

    • HaCkEr_Fc

      Shadow of War has already been confirmed to run at native 4k on Xbox Scorpio

    • Riggybro

      I think most games will run 4K on Scorpio.

      I’m more interested in – compared to the other versions – the framerate, if there are extra graphical features etc…

  • Jp mccann

    Of course scorpio wont be held back by pro. Was the ps4 held back by xbox one? No. Ps4 games have been running at higher resolutions and better frame rates than xbox one games since the consoles release. So why does this question keep getting asked? I’m thinking xbox fanboys are starting to realize that the scorpio isn’t as powerful as microsoft have made it out to be and are looking for a scapegoat. Good luck with that.

    • Living While Alive

      What? On the contrary it’s actually more powerful than we anticipated.

      Battlefront UK online multiplayer 4k 60fps natively on Xbox Scorpio

    • Jp mccann

      Battlefront will run at 60fps on all consoles, that’s how it was developed. And it’s alegedly native 4k. But if so at what settings. We all know scorpio can run forza 6 at native 4k 60fps on ultra settings, but then again it ran at native 1080 60fps on the original xbone, which highlights just how misleading of a bench mark that is. Funny how that’s the only game digital foundry was allowed to test.

    • Living While Alive

      Yes but it was leaked by a very credible source.

      And by leaks I mean “3rd party tactical Company marketing”.

      Meaning these companies allow or choose what they want to keep “tight-sealed” or “put-out-there”

    • Jp mccann

      All I know is forza 6 as a benchmark is very misleading. It would suggest that the original xbox one would output every game at 1080p but it rarely did. When more demanding games are tested it won’t perform nearly as well and from what I’m reading there are a lot of people getting ready to blame the pro even though there was never an issue of the ps4 being held back by xbox one.

    • Mark

      Fair question; how was the benchmark misleading when Scorpio outperformed GTX 1070?

    • Jp mccann

      A gtx 1070 is just a gpu. What xbox fanboys are saying is that because of this test the scorpio has the same performance as a mid to high end pc. But Scorpios cpu is where it is held back just like the pro. These consoles were designed to boost resolution to a far higher degree than performance. Sony did this to sell their 4k tvs. Microsoft did this to copy sony. Scorpio will still run most games at 30fps while a mid to high end pc with even a half decent cpu will run all games at 60fps.
      Fair answer?

    • Mark

      Fair answer yes, but not a good one. What do we know about Scorpio’s CPU’s performance right now? It can handle Forza at 4k/60fps, MAX settings for the GPU functions (Ultra for other functions), while pushing 4K assets….that’s more than just “boosting resolution”. No frames were dropped whilst collisions and other CPU taxing functions occurred. All the while the 1070 DF rig did…..Scorpio sounds like a mid-high end machine to me. Oh and I’d like for u to find me a mid level GPU and CPU that can run 4K/60fps Ultra on Forza Apex….

    • Smart guy

      And it’s CPU is customized that makes a big difference as well

    • Mark

      So Jp has clearly read the Forza article, but chooses to ignore that Microsoft used PIX to eliminate many bottlenecks in the GPU and CPU, which supports the Scorpio’s overall design…….it’s CUTSOM.

    • Smart guy

      All the sony fanboys have especially Mrs Xrat/crazy black woman. I keep hearing weak CPU but what about the pros?? Lol that customized CPU will make a huge difference. I have both consoles and get the best of both worlds but I returned the semi pro because it was garbage and that’s a FACT. Just because I prefer Xbox people hate. It’s all good though they can keep hating 🙂

    • Mark

      Yeah now they’re saying that if Scorpio doesn’t run all games at 60fps in 4k, at Ultra, with 4K assets, that it’s another PS4 Pro job….ahahaa. Uhhh, no it will run at smoother and/or higher frames, higher resolution and higher settings, 4K assets, and a UHD player with 4K 60 capture card…..hot dam! Stop hating guys lol

    • Smart guy

      Everyone will hate just let am 🙂 ima get laid now I’m not like the multi alt Mrs xrat:))))) I get puss and am not sober why? Because I live 😀

    • Jp mccann

      So all games will run at 60fps then? Wow you would think Microsoft would have made such a statement.they are so quick to point out all the things scorpio can do that the pro cant, ie ” true 4k” and ” high fidelity vr” where’s the ” all games 60fps”? No if you actually watch digital foundry’s analysis you will see scorpio will have the same cpu bottleneck as pro.

    • Gamez Rule

      Correct, and if people believe that all games will be native 4k at 60fps are in for a shock.. I bet that Tekken 7 on Scorpio will not be native 4k at 60fps ( due to CPU bottleneck )…Tell will soon tell☺

    • Mark

      Why would all games run 60fps on a console? It won’t, because it’s on console bro. Developers have different targets on console, they mainly use most resources for graphics, not frame rate, due to it being better for sales. Also, once again, find me a mid-high end CPU that can run most games at 4k/60fps on PC?

    • Jp mccann

      They will run at 4k 60fps on the ps5 when sony upgrades to a ryzen cpu. Possibly available 2019. And I’ve answered your question about a 4k/60 cpu at least twice now. You don’t get a third.

    • Mark

      PS5 won’t deliver 4k/60 on all games. Why because devs will always target 30fps for graphics on console. And if we’re talking post launch patches, that’s still complicated (especially on 3rd party multiplats) due to 1) additional spending on graphics and frame rate patches (not stability) 2) some devs have stated 60fps is too hard because their engine is based on 30 hz refresh and 3) studios vary in size, thus there will be varied levels of support…..most games will just launch how the devs desire it, and they will stay that way.

    • Jp mccann

      That’s the stupidest comment I’ve ever read.

    • Mark

      My question about the CPU is this; how can u expect a console to run all games at 4K/60 when it’s difficult for even mid-high end PC CPUs across the gamut of AAA games to do it? I wouldn’t say Scorpio’s CPU is holding games back because it can’t do that feat. I don’t know what it can do yet, none of us do till we see game performance. But if it can deliver COD 4k/60fps great settings, BattleFront 2 with mid-high PC grade IQ and performance, then what else can I really ask for out of a console at console price. Most games will be 30, some will be 60 and they will look beautiful doing it, and that’s good on console.

    • Mark

      I honestly didn’t see anywhere in the analysis where they showed Scorpio’s CPU bottlenecks. Not saying ur lying but I can’t find it. What I read was Forza locking 60fps during taxing CPU simulations

    • Jp mccann

      If your really interested in buying a scorpio then watch all digital foundry’s analysis. It’s when they are talking about project cars I think, that runs at an unlocked frame rate on pro. It can hit 60fps but it averages around 45fps. The one guy asks Richard so scorpio should run this at 60fps and he says no, and mentions the cpu is only 14% more powerful than pros. Now it will run better no doubt but a rock solid 60fps is off the table. If scorpio could run every game at 60fps microsoft would be shouting it from the rooftops. I wished it could I would have bought one. Even every game at 1080 60 but thats not how these consoles are designed. They are designed for increased resolution.

    • Mark

      That’s interesting because Richard just gave us a glowing praise of Scorpio’s CPU from the Forza demo when he mentioned; 1) No frame drops at 4K, Ultra, with 4K assets and 2) He states Microsoft rammed the cars into each other, pushed all physics simulations to the max, with headroom to add more IQ. If Project Cars 2 can’t lock frames then I’m curious to see. Now I don’t take that to mean all games will run at 60. I’m not sure most Xbots think that either. However we will see some 4k/60fps games at Ultra with 4K assets on Scorpio, and that, is what’s gettin us hyped!

    • Jp mccann

      Again and for the last time forza 6 was the only AAA game that ran at 1080 60 on original xbox one. Halo 5 is claimed to but it uses dynamic resolution and is actually sub 1080 for the majority of play time. Plus enemies animate at 30fps when they are like 2 meters away. If this was a test of the original xbox one before it’s release you would be looking forward to all the 1080 60 games to come out for it. And you would be dissapointed.

    • Mark

      Not true at all. Because of my gaming knowledge I know all games on X1 wouldn’t be 60fps, that’s absurd. Why because Forza’s a racer, and most games aren’t twitch based, so they’d run 30fps. Trust me JP, by far most Xbots do not believe Scorpio will run 4K/60fps on ALL games man, less u can show me any relevant Xbox Youtuber and their followers, or Twitter group who thinks so…..one or 2 crazy Xbots don’t count lol

    • Jp mccann

      Read other comments.

    • Mark

      So you made the claim, but u want me to do the leg work ahahaa, c’mon gebroney

    • Jp mccann

      Giddyaap horsey pffffffff

    • Mark

      Lol. I remember some other PS4 fan claiming us Xbots think Scorpio will run 4k/60 ALL games, yet he couldn’t even find a CrapGamer, a Mooch, Red Dragon…sumbody’s gotta be out there!

    • Jp mccann

      Wow so you only read my comments nobody else’s? I’m flattered. But I’m afraid I’m straight sorry lad.

    • Mark

      Nah it was Gamez, he said what ur saying, I’d just like to who u guys are talking about

    • Jp mccann

      Again 4k no. The ps4 and xbox one were well balanced consoles. But for these 4k consoles they sacrificed performance for resolution. Example scorpio boosted the gpu by 300% but only boosted the cpu by 30%. Digital foundry and developers have said there will still be a cpu bottleneck. And believe it or not gamers do still choose performance over resolution. Games like nioh and the surge that offer either a 4k ish 30fps or 1080 60fps mode the majority of players choose the 1080 60fps. 4k 30fps is not a setting any pc gamers I know would ever use. If you can’t hit 4k 60 on a pc with gtx 1070 you could even drop the resolution as low as 1440 and it would look and play far better than 4k 30. When you try to say the scorpio PERFORMS as well as a high end pc you are wrong.

    • Mark

      I never said high end, I said mid-high end RANGE, all based on the Forza demo. U, like I, don’t know enough about the CPU’s real performance outside of the demo. I agree with u that most games will be 30fps, but that doesn’t mean Scorpio couldn’t run games higher at great IQ

    • Jp mccann

      It’s simple. If a system is going to play most games at 30fps, it’s performance isn’t comparable to a gaming pc.

    • Smart guy

      Negative 🙂

    • Mark

      Agreed they wouldn’t be comparable in most games, but 60fps games they will be; expect to see BattleFront 2, COD WW2 and others in Scorpio face-offs vs PC. Hence the Forza DigitalFoundry comparison

    • Jp mccann

      Oh and I almost forgot. You do realize a pc with a gtx 1070 can’t hit native 4k 60fps at even medium settings on battlefield 1?

    • Mark

      Yes I know 4k 60 is tough. And what of it?

    • Mark

      Also, the scores of millions of console gamers don’t know what 30fps is vs 60fps….sad to say that, but it’s true, most these guys are just ignorant, and according to recent statistics, people still want games mostly for their graphics!

    • Jp mccann

      That’s what I believed too.
      But games like nioh and the surge proved that wrong. They offer a 1080 60 mode and that is by far the most popular choice, and I’m talking with 4k tv owners. If you watch digital foundry’s analysis of the surge on the pro they are very impressed. But it’s the 1080 60 mode they are most impressed with and actually recommend . It mightnt be native 4k but it still 3x the resolution of 1080. Plus 4k won’t be standard for a few years so at the minute the majority of gamers aren’t interested in 4k. Nintendos switch will outsell pro and scorpio combined, just wait and see.

    • Mark

      Well Nioh and Surge are by far in the vast minorty in terms of judging how important frame rate is to console gamers. I have Nielson reports that show graphics still remain supreme. I do appreciate higher frames like u tho…Yes the Switch will sell, but that’s more of handheld market, not competing with Pro imo. It outsold PS4 too, but that doesn’t mean what one might think.

    • Jp mccann

      How are nioh and the surge the minority? They are the only games on the pro to offer a rock solid 60fps as an alternative to higher resolutions. If more games offered that option it would be preferred there as well. And the switch is a hybrid it is not just a handheld. It will be in competition with the ps4 and xbox.

    • Mark

      Last word Nioh sold 1m worldwide in Feb, would u not call that a tiny slice of the PS4 userbase to judge how many gamers prefer frames over graphics/resolution? Even if it’s one of the only games with 60fps alternative, that’s still a minute sample size. I can accept good info, but you’re talking 2% of PS4 users here.

      As for Switch, it will be interesting if it’ll outsell the other consoles, it is actually beating the PS4 in Japan and in the states I believe. But I think we’re mainly talking 2 different gamers between Scorpio and Switch owners. Anyway I’m not arguing over that cuz u could be right, who knows we’ll see

    • Jp mccann

      To make your argument valid people who play nioh and the surge would have to have opposite priorities to those who play other games. Is that what you are saying? Seriously? What are the chances that’s even remotely true.

    • Mark

      I’m saying how do u take a game (or 2) where there’s a very small amount of players choosing frame rate mode over Res/graphics, and citing that as “gamers want performance”? That’s a very tiny data size. You’d need substantially more numbers to back that up. That’s like me saying back compatibility is the number one preferred feature on Xbox…..I’d need some good numbers right?

    • Jp mccann

      Pc gamers don’t play games at 30fps. They just don’t. Need proof? Pc games do not come with post processing effects like motion blur. Thats a console feature to smooth over low frame rates. How many pc gamers are in the world? Google that and see if that’s a big enough number of players for you.

    • Mark

      Ur comparing PC gamers to console gamers, who don’t even know what frame rates are! They see, plug, and play lol. I agree that higher frames are great, but these guys are more ignorant than u give them credit for ahaha

    • Jp mccann

      Actually that gamespot link is just a straight up question to gamers, 4k 30 or 1080 60. Doesn’t mention pc anywhere. Here’s the link again in case you missed it.

      https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/108060fps-or-4k30fps-if-you-had-to-choose-which-on-33362873/

    • Mark

      Nah JP, read their comments again, those are clearly PC guys……u tryin to fool me gebroney?! Lol

    • Jp mccann

      I came home and just turned on the old youtube and guess what? Digital foundry have run an analysis of a gtx 1070 laptop. It’s fate lad check it out and tell me now how many native 4k 60fps ultra settings games will run on scorpio, as the forza test would imply. Also bearing in mind this laptop isn’t using an old 8 core jag like scorpio.

      https://youtu.be/mrHg60mY2IE

    • Mark

      First, thanks for the video, it’s good stuff. But right off the bat the Scorpio has a 70Gb/s memory bandwidth advantage, and prolly a better cooling solution (vapor chamber unit), Tflop comparison isn’t a 1:1 comparison cuz of different architectures so who knows. However that I7 is prolly way stronger than Scorpio CPU, but this is what I’m saying, we don’t know, what to fully expect from parts fully customized, from the motherboard voltage, to the cooling unit and APU. So I’m not pretending to know either way. I’m basing my opinion off the Forza demo, and Scorpio simply outperformed a GTX 1070 setup (which very likely had an I7 in it). Does that mean all games will run 60fps? Noooo. Who’s saying that? You? Cuz I don’t see it. But it does insinuate that we can expect a mid-high end range of PC quality content from the box, imo. That’s what Xbots are hyped for, it’s that simple, nothing else.

    • Mark

      I’m talking the amount of gamers ur citing, which prolly adds up to no more than 3 million based on Surge and Nioh sales…….that’s small man

    • Jp mccann

      It doesn’t matter how many people have played the games. If only 10 people played nioh and 8 out of the 10 chose performance over resolution, my point is still proven. Given the opportunity the majority of gamers would choose performance over resolution. The pro offers console gamers the opportunity to switch between 60fps and 30fps with the click of a button. Once you see the game running at 60 there’s no going back.

    • Mark

      That’s 8 out of 10 for 2 games….2. Both of which are heavily based on timing attacks, where 60 frames has big impact…..of course they’d choose higher frames! That isn’t the case with the more relaxed combat games (i.e. Fallout etc), that may be served better with higher graphic fidelity at 30, than simply targetting 60fps. To say Nioh and The Surge represents what would happen on every other game genre, and what gamers want as a whole is downright wrong and selective…it’s a biased sample, can u not see that?

    • Jp mccann

      http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1212137

      Can you see that? What’s the majority vote there? That’s one forum want more?

    • Mark

      Hold up, I’m talking console gamers, who, really you said Xbox gamers who think Scorpio will run all games 4k 60. But anyway those forums are PC guys man…

    • Jp mccann
    • Mark

      A “half decent mid-high end PC cpu will run all games at 60fps”, at 4k? Show me….

    • Mark

      Also, the Scorpio version provided 4K assets at “MAX settings for all GPU functions”, clearly offering more than just a resolution bump from X1 version. Granted I don’t think we’ll see the EXACT same performance across all Scorpio games due to other devs having less time to optimize, but that doesn’t mean the power isn’t there…..

  • Gamez Rule

    Off topic about this game, but wondering if the new Tekken will be native 4k at 60fps on Scorpio?

    • Living While Alive

      I don’t see why not. It’s not really a graphical intense game with just 2 players and a nap. If Killer Instinct is announced for Scorpio to be 4k 60fps natively then expect every fighting game to be.

      Theoretically

    • Gamez Rule

      I believe that Scorpio couldn’t run Tekken 7 at a solid 60fps at native 4k resolution. But we shall soon see I guess.

    • Living While Alive

      If Battlefront II is 4k 60fps natively then I’m sure tekken will be. Battlefront is definitely more graphical demanding.

      There’s really not alot going on in Tekken except 2 people.

    • Mark

      Dude B-Front 2 is gonna look mind blowing on Scorpio!

    • Gamez Rule

      We shall soon see.

  • marc Berry

    Sony sold you a 4.2TF up scale console. I know it’s for the players HA,HA,HA. For the last 3 years it’s been about XB1 720p-900p games and now that’s over. And Sony fans last hope is, it can’t do native 4k/60 on AAA games? No that can’t be right. must be talking about the PS4 Pro?
    Forza 6 was running at 4k/60 = to a GTX 1070+ on PC. How’s that GT working out for you?
    Then we have this!
    http://www.gamepur.com/news/26801-star-wars-battlefront-ii-project-scorpio-will-run-native-4k60fps-insider.html
    He’s been right so far.
    You even try to say that the CPU in Scorpio is just as weak as PRO when it’s more than 14% faster than the PRO and 44% faster than OG PS4. So if most of the games stop at around 50FPS on the PRO, then 10% of that 14% gets you to 60fps. NG4 can’t save you anymore.

    • Jp mccann

      Sony developed the ps4 pro prematurely to help speed up the sales of their 4k tvs. Microsoft found out and copied them even though they don’t make 4k tvs. 4k is still years away from becoming mainstream, meaning both pro and scorpio wont sell particularly well. This suits sony fine as they don’t need to sell consoles, but microsoft do. Sony knew exactly what they were doing releasing the pro early but microsoft are clueless, releasing a ” premium ” 4k console when there is very little demand for one when they are being destroyed by ps4 2 to 1. And when 4k tvs are becoming standard in about 2 years give or take the ps5 that is being developed right now will be ready for release. Bye bye xbox brand.

    • Smart guy

      Lol no kiddo at the same time a ps5 is announced there will be a new Xbox announced. And they never copied anything for sony lol the “pro” was the response to the Scorpio and it was yes it was very rushed and the end result wasn’t worth it at all. Stick with the standard or slim ps4 and wait for a ps5/Xbox 4 where getting a Scorpio when it comes out is a great idea frankly because everything will look better on it and then upgrade from mid to next gen when its out 🙂

    • Jp mccann

      Haha pro was a response to scorpio? Good one. And yes maybe there will be a new xbox announced and it might release about a year after ps5. But the ps5 will offer true 4k at 60fps. So what will the next xbox offer 8k? I don’t think so. 4k will be the standard for a long time to come. Higher frame rates? If ps5 can nail 60fps across the board is that really necessary? Nope 4k 60fps seems to be what the next generation of consoles will be aiming for and sony will be in there a year before microsoft. Thats if they don’t scrap xbox. They really need scorpio to sell which I doubt.

    • Smart guy

      Most likely not a year after at all both will release their new consoles the same month especially for next gen. No next gen console (not mid gen) will risk releasing a year after the other again and everyone should already know it won’t get scrapped. It’s been confirmed that Microsoft and Sony are already working on next gen consoles 🙂

    • Jp mccann

      I know sony are working on a next gen console. Probably scheduled for 2019 release. But you are saying it’s confirmed microsoft are also working on a next gen console even before they have finished working on scorpio and will also release it in 2019? Please provide proof.

    • Smart guy

      https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/phil-spencer-confirms-more-xbox-consoles-after-sco-33380683/

      Now with that settled. I never said a 2019 release date for the next I said they will most likely release the same month but again neither company will risk a next gen being released a year after another :)) now if I’d like more proof your more then welcome to find it yourself it’s very easy to type and find out anything these days. I enjoy games on both consoles and find enjoy my hearing good info from both sides where you’re narrow minded and only look for sony stuff then demand proof for the other lol the “pro” is a bad joke but they’ll do better with the next. Until then Scorpio is the smart move along with the standard ps4. Happy gaming

    • Jp mccann

      I have tried to find it myself that’s the point. There are plenty of rumors and speculation about the ps5. Here’s the latest most promising article.

      http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57845/playstation-5-feature-full-discrete-gpu-apu/index.html

      But I can find absolutely nothing about a next gen xbox that is being developed. And yet you claim microsoft have actually confirmed it? You’ve seen this confirmation so it would be a lot easier for you to find it than me. Maybe check your browser history.

    • Jp mccann

      Hahahaha I just saw your proof. Phil spencer says there will be more xboxs hahaha. Thats proof to you that microsoft are working on a next gen console before scorpio is even released. Too funny haha.

    • Smart guy

      Actually both have been planning on next gen since 2015 not only mid gen :))

    • Jp mccann

      Yes I saw your proof. Overwhelming.

    • Smart guy

      Ok so you are just a low life fan boy thanks for that proof 🙂 later kid lol

    • Dan Giambrone

      Most of the enhanced PS4 Pro titles output at a 2560 x 1440 resolution. This is considerably higher than the 1920 x 1080 that the PS4 generally outputs at. From that 1440p many techniques are then used to bump the image up to 4K. To call it an up-scaling console is doing it a disservice. Granted, it’s not a powerhouse, but for the price it’s a very decent and capable machine. It’s only problem is Sony’s piss poor support for it – you just don’t know what improvements you’re going to get from game to the next. There is no consistency. It’s starting to feel like the PS Vita all over again. The good news regarding the Scorpio is that in addition to it’s extra power, Microsoft have been learning from Sony’s mistakes and implemented many of it’s benefits at a system level, e.g. super-sampling for 1080p tv owners and x4 texture filtering. Let’s just hope that the console is priced sensibly.

    • Dan Giambrone

      Forgot to say…. Far too much has been made of screen resolution during this gen. 1080 means nothing if you have crappy anti-aliasing and texture filtering. A great example is Ryse. It ran at 900p, but had far superior image quality to the 1080p Forza 5, which was a jaggy blurry mess.

  • J.j. Barrington

    These articles are just so bad…

  • Jp mccann

    Ps5 baaaaaaaaaabyyyyyyyyy

  • Wookie Groomer

    It’s still a global mystery at just what native resolution the game runs at on the PS4 Pro. I didn’t buy the Pro to still run games at 1080p on my 4K TV.


 

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