Dev On Whether Xbox Scorpio’s Power Should Be Used For 4k/30fps Or 1080p/60fps: ‘It Deserves Experiments’

“Lots of new options to explore.”

Posted By | On 02nd, Oct. 2016 Under News | Follow This Author @GamingBoltTweet


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Microsoft certainly seems to be pushing 4K gaming with their upcoming console, the Xbox One Scorpio which is scheduled to launch next year. However as previously reported, Microsoft are not going to set any mandate on how developers will use all that power. The Scorpio is a 4K ready machine but in the end it’s up to the developers on how they want to use it.

In a recent interview with Matteo Pezzotti, the Lead Designer of Ride 2, GamingBolt asked whether Milestone will push for 1080p/60fps or 4K/30fps on the new console. Pezzotti stated that it depends on player’s feedback and what works best in their perspective.

“I think it’s something that deserves some experiments, to understand what’s better from a player’s perspective,” he said to GamingBolt. He believes that hitting the 60fps is more difficult so it will be a better option to play with resolution instead. “Hitting the 60fps mark flawlessly is probably more challenging, and there might be the option for resolutions in between of HD/4K. Lots of new options to explore.”

Ride 2’s engine renders the game at 1080p on the PS4 and Xbox One but at a 30 frames per second cap. So in that perspective, the developers of Ride 2 may opt for better resolution over frame rate if and when they develop for the Xbox One Scorpio. Personally speaking, I would like third party developers to target 1080p and 60 fps with all visual settings maxed out on the Scorpio but at the same time I would also like first party developers to run their games at 4K and 60fps.

I mean just imagine Forza Motorsport 7 running at 4K/60fps on the Scorpio. That sounds glorious, right?


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  • tommi Lee

    Forza Motorsport 7 running at 4K/60fps – on Forza 6 engine? No thanks! Forza 7 1080p/60fps on brand new engine? Yes!

  • Riggybro

    What’s wrong with 2K 60fps??

    • Guest

      You do know that 2K 60fps is 1080p/60fps right? Obviously not.

    • Riggybro

      Obviously. I thought 2K was 1440p.

  • crazy_black_man-

    Forget graphics and framerate. All that extra power should be used to make the console hard reboot faster after an app crashes back to the desktop.

    If the extra power can help that slow UI become half as fast and snappy as the PS4 UI, then for that reason alone, the upgrade would be totally worth it and aggressively defended by the dumbest of Xbox fans.

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  • Terminator

    All that power already has the PS Degenerate Drone Force scared and crying so use it however you see fit.

    • crazy_black_man-

      PS Degenerate Drone Force? Really?

      Are you trying to sound original, coin a dumb phrase like ‘sony pony”, and then hope that it grows legs and becomes commonly used in gaming forums? Or are you just trying your best to sound stupid?

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/807a024cb206574b269900af85e47405ccb9b7268533abcd21d2e7e655ba772a.jpg

      You won on the latter.

    • TheCellGames

      We have found the PS Degenerate Drone Force’s leader it seems. And here I thought it was Mr.Monkeypoop. Turns out it’s Crazy Black Man. *dun dun dun!* What a crazy turn of events!

    • jp

      hahahahahaha

    • crazy_black_man-

      Everybody upvote this guy. He’s trying extremely hard here. Show him some love!

    • TheCellGames

      Aw. Thanks. But no one tries as hard as you do you degenerate. Proof is in your response.

    • crazy_black_man-

      LOL. Love you too bro!

    • Guest

      Says the degenerate.

    • Terminator

      Oh it was Doggystyle who replied to me? I have that degenerate loser blocked lol

    • TheCellGames

      Crazy Black Man. Guy be cray cray

    • crazy_black_man-

      Awe. That guy truly loves me. He reads all my comments before he logs in to Disqus, where he has me blocked from replying to him, and then he only goes and comments on the articles that I’ve commented on, just to be closer to me. He’s such a coward about admitting his secret man crush on Phil Spencer, and me, the only two influential men in his sad little pathetic life.

    • TheCellGames

      Ok. Ok. XD. That comment was too Broke Back Disqus for my eyes to read.

    • Mark

      Lol

    • Terminator

      LOL The guy isn’t just crazy, he’s an insecure child trying to persuade people he made the right purchase, even more when it seems he talks more about the Xbox One than the PS4. You would think his undying love for a piece of plastic and liking to take it doggystyle by Sony he would talk more about the PS4 but like I said degenerates like him are just seeking to validate themselves.

    • TheCellGames

      I fully agree. Guys like him just hate Xbox. If he would spend more time gaming he would be happier.

    • Guest

      And you obviously hate PS4, hypocrite!

    • Guest

      Says the other degenerate.

    • Guest

      And we’ve found the Xbox Degenerate drone Force’s leader, congratulation, you’re a tool.

    • Guest

      All what “power” you XRat? You’re the only one scared, because Scorpio is barely going to look any better than Pro, and will come out over a yr later and probably at a higher price tag. DF has already stated the difference between Pro’s uoscale and native 4K is smaller than the difference between 900p and 1080p, you XMoron.

  • TheCellGames

    See. What I want is the option to choose which experience I want. Hit a switch, 1080p/60fps Ultra or 4K/30-60fps medium. With the market for 4K not even that big, you have to consider people will want an enhanced 1080p experience.

    • JuneMas

      It’ll likely be 4K with everything on low because the extra pixels and higher textures could cover a lack of AA or other features being being omitted. Some games like Rise of the Tomb Raider on the upcoming PS4 PRO allow you to pick so in sure devs will do the same on the Scorpio. 1440p 60fps with everything on high seems doable on the Scorpio though. Games could also dynamically scale depending on the resolution of the tv the console is connected to and automatically select the best mode.

    • TheCellGames

      I just hope that the mode you game on can be changed. For example, if I have a 4K TV, then I could choose in game to use a 1080p version with maxed graphics. It would be a pain to change that through the settings menu every time I switch games because I would probably not choose the same setting for every game. I do know Spencer said the Win 10 version of the first party line up would be used for Scorpio so I’m interested in seeing if we can change the settings of the game how we wish

    • crazy_black_man-

      Gee, it sounds like you already have all those options, no? Have you ever heard of a PC, because that is clearly what you’re describing.

    • TheCellGames

      Yeah. You’re right. But I’m talking about Scorpio, what I want for it. Genius.

    • Mark

      Lol. Yeah some of us just like console over PC, and the Scorpio will give us the high end experience while making gaming simple at that.

    • TheCellGames

      Indeed. Consoles will always be a step behind PC. That’s ok. Just, it should learn from it too. Gamers want options, give them options.

  • Graeme Willy

    We’re forgetting one major thing here. VR.
    Not many people know this but if VR is going to be the new gimmick, then any console and PC needs to be able to do 120FPS. In VR, 120FPS is equivalent to 60FPS on regular 2D display. So, is the console capable of 120FPS @ 1080p? Ideally, you want 4K VR, but there’s no way 6 Teraflops is going to do 4K at 120FPS…now the contrary to this is if said VR headset has onboard graphics processing that can help contribute in processing power enough to pick up the frames to that 120FPS sweet spot. Naturally, the end goal would be 4K/ 8K VR at 240FPS. This, however, is not a reality even for PC within the next couple of years.

    So, even with Scorpio, we’re still going to be gaming with pop-in textures, limited draw distance, limited foliage and limited filtering because people are going to want resolution and frames.

  • Hvd

    they need to try do do 4k/30 if they are doing 1080p/60 ill just stick with the xbox one.most games are 1080p/30 and multiplayer are 900p ro 1080p/60fps.

    no point to get another 1080p machine.plsu if they are still making 1080p/60fps games tthe console will fall behind pc even more.isnt the whole point of these mid gen console to keep up with pc’s as ms and sony want to do.

  • Hvd

    no need for another 1080p console most multiplayer games are 1080p/60fps.thats the issue with mid gen consoles.devs will get even more lazy and stop trying to push the consoles and end up making shi* games.

    we need console to last long so devs can push that hard ware and make great games.if we get any more mid gen consoles after this watch as games start to go down in quality.

  • Guest

    Blah, blah, blah, WEAK!!! So its supposed to have 6TF, 320gb/s of bandwidth, a Vega GPU with a Zen CPU and 12Gb of HBM RAM and the best it could do is a measly 30 more frames on a game that is already 1080p 30fps on the supposedly measly PS4/X1? Pathetic! Diminsihing returns is real and its powerful. Its taking way to much more power just to get a little teeny tiny bit better. Even DF said that at 3-4ft from a 60inch screen yielded a smaller difference between Pro’s non native 4K and native 4K, than the difference between 900p and 1080p. That is pathetic. Meanwhile, all you fanboys and techno fanboys need to wake up from your fanstasy land and realize that the differences are so minute that to brag about them is just completely and utterly pathetic!.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      DF is just trying to damage control the 2tflop power difference, PERIOD.

      The 900p vs 1080p was never noticeable and I doubt that we’ll notice much of difference between the checkerboard UPSCALING (hehe) and 4K NATIVE resolution. However, when DF runs its typical “vs” analysis they will have to give the win to the Scorpio version because if they found “more” grass in the PS4 multiplat with 0.5tflop advantage over XB1, then they will SURELY find a few extra trees in the Scorpio’s with its 2TFLOP advantage over the weaker PS Pro..:)


 

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