Microsoft Was In A “Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don’t” Situation Post E3 2013, Says Aaero Developer

“To Microsoft’s credit, despite it completely disrupting their launch, they did listen to the feedback and went out of their way to address it.”

Posted By | On 13th, Aug. 2017 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


A few days ago, Paul Norris of Mad Fellows games, the developers of Aaero, famously said that he was tired of every announcement regarding the Xbox One being met with backlash by the gaming community. His point did make sense- and I say this as someone who is largely dissatisfied with Microsoft’s showing this generation on the games front.

Discourse in games can often be vehemently negative, and for Microsoft, especially, that seems to be the case. We asked him to explain why he thinks this is in an exclusive interview with GamingBolt- is it because of Microsoft’s infamous E3 2013 showing?

“People seem to go out of their way to find something to moan about and seem genuinely incensed if someone dares to actually think it’s pretty cool and look forward to it. For something that’s supposed to be fun, gaming seems to have more than its fair share of haters,” Norris said.

“The launch and that particular E3 seemed pretty disastrous from an on-looker’s point of view. I think that leading up to the launch Microsoft had had some really cool ideas that were overshadowed by DRM, focusing on the TV aspect and the ‘always online’ issues. All these huge corporations are so used to looking ahead at the whole life-cycle of a product, I think they misjudged that the average gamer was ready to be prevented from playing if the internet went down. I don’t think it’d be as controversial to suggest that a new console needed to be online in 2017, but in 2013 it was pushing things a bit too far.

“The frustrating thing for me personally was that I’d come to accept that it’d need to be online and I was looking forward to the feature where you could share games with your friends and family. Then, after the infamous ‘this is how you share a PS4 game’ skit and an E3 arena chanting ‘Sony! Sony!’ it seems that Microsoft did the mother of all U-turns.”

Norris goes on to say that he assumes that last minute change in plans is what led to the Xbox One being as barebones at launch as it was. “I guess if they had to restructure how the whole console worked at the eleventh hour, that’d explain why it was a bit bare bones at launch. In terms of features, it felt like I’d downgraded from the Xbox 360 at the time,” he said.

“To Microsoft’s credit, despite it completely disrupting their launch, they did listen to the feedback and went out of their way to address it. It’s a ‘damned if you do, damned if you don’t’ situation at that point. Do you push ahead regardless and try to prove everyone wrong with the original plan or do you do everything you can to deliver what people say they want?

“In answer to the original question, I don’t think it’s possible to please everyone (and us gamers, much less so). I think it’d still happen if E3 2013 had gone without a hitch. Can you imagine if after the Sony and Microsoft keynotes everyone just said “We’ll this is all looking amazing. Great work Xbox and PlayStation. Let’s go to the pub together and celebrate a win for video games!”? Would that be so bad?”

As I have already said, I do agree with his larger point. However, with that said, I do need to point out that the phenomenon is not restricted to Microsoft, either. Everybody is raked over the coals at some point or the other in the gaming industry. It is Microsoft who are suffering negative discourse at the moment, but has everyone forgotten how bad Nintendo had it during the Wii U era? Or Sony in the early PS3 days?

Yes, Microsoft gets backlash- but they also have the most flawed strategy at the moment. As fans of gaming who get invested in and passionate about the hobby, I don’t think it’s necessarily wrong to vocalize how you feel about that either.


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  • AuricGoldfinger

    “Yes, Microsoft gets backlash- but they also have the most flawed strategy at the moment.”

    As the author of this article, could you reiterate what’s so flawed about microsofts strategy? Are you suggesting that Sony and Nintendo’s strategy is perfectly fine? How about consumer friendly? I could point out plenty of Sony/Nintendo decisions that I find anti consumer. I would enjoy reading an article that indicated every (MS/Sony/Nin) games/features comparison..

    As of now MS should be applauded for their efforts in updating their console with a plethora of consumer friendly features, after their 2013 launch fiasco….
    -Cross platform with Sony/Nintendo
    -Backwards Compatability with both previous gen consoles
    -Xbox Preview Program
    -Early Acces: Ark, Happy Few, PUBG
    -EA Access
    -Game Pass (netflix for games)
    -Creators Content HUB
    -Play Anywhere (2 games 1 purchase)
    -Modernized Avatar system
    -Clubs/LFG
    -Self Refund feature
    -Mixer
    -Xbox One X (hardcore customer)
    -Elite Controller (hardcore customer)

    Plus we’re still waiting to see what MS intentions are for integrating their mixed reality initiative. As of now, I wish the gaming community would come together and stop throwing stones at one another. Just because one may prefer to game on another console/pc than you. I’m simply just over the fanboy nonsense.

    • Holeybartender

      Consumer friendly features Sony already had or was in the works.
      -Cross platform with PS4/PC
      -PS Now (Netflix/ Steam for games)
      –open door policy with Indies
      -Remote Play (2 systems 1 purchase)
      -Atom Universe Avatar hub system
      -Free game demos (That’s all EA Access and Early Access essentially is but you pay for it)
      -No Backwards Compatibility (because we don’t want it)

      I wouldn’t call the Elite controller a feature,it’s a peripheral.Xbox One is not a feature,you didn’t need it in your list since that was already addressed by the reason behind your list. Microsoft shouldn’t be applauded bringing features that should’ve already been there,they should be humbled that they weren’t completely abandoned for not bringing them in the first place.

    • S. Cruz

      EA Access….sorry not demos, full games but i guess PlayStation only owners wouldnt know that, full games for 30 a year….you stick to demos!!!

    • Holeybartender

      Yes we PlayStation only owner s know what EA Access is because we turned it down when it was offered. EA Access gives you a chance to play a game before it releases,that is essentially a game demo. Is it all the service provides?No,you get 10% off EA games and you get to stream EA games…Oh wait you know who also does that? PlayStation Plus and PS Now.

    • S. Cruz

      Oh im sorry as a playstation owner myself i dont recall being offered EA Access….oh wait sony decided for us….but i guess they are protecting us from a good deal. 10% off sounds like another good deal to me. Correction you do not stream games you download full games, i mean feel free to see the vault and see if its worth $30 a year. But feel free to tell more lies. Enjoy your day sir

    • Holeybartender

      Good deal? No,Sony decided on behalf of us. EA could’ve offered discounted and trial version games through PS Plus and we would’ve had more of a discount but no EA wanted to charge an additional $5 more for PS Plus. Discounts up to 80% is WAY better of a bargain than 10% and what does EA have worth getting anyways,sports games? Ha. Oh wait,look Star Wars Battlefront!…Oh look,it’s $10 on PS Plus.Screw your Vault.

    • S. Cruz

      Lol Sony decided for you…..ummm how is that a good thing? Thought they are for the players? To each is their own, just got titan fall2, battlefield 1, i mean hey by all means find all the ways “you” don’t like ea access, me 30 bucks a year for it is a good deal.

    • Holeybartender

      How is that a good thing?Oh let’s see…$60 a year for PS Plus and an additional $30 a year for EA Access tackled on. Naw,nothing bad about that deal,naw…

    • S. Cruz

      Lol different services….but again you can state your opinion on ea access that’s fine. I was just disagreeing with your “facts” …. EA Access is not a streaming service… you download all games, no just demos…they have trial of yet to be released games. Again its an option that ps4 owners didn’t have a say in, you don’t need Xbox live to have Ea access. But you are entitle your opinion. I enjoy ea access had it since it launch got my 90 bucks worth easily..again just my opinion.

    • andrewsqual

      I haven’t played a SINGLE EA game this gen. Go on, look up my PSN ID that is my name.
      Battlefields and Mirrors Edge (another huge disappointment for the gen), Dragon Age Inquisition, 2 crappy NFS games and a 3rd on the way, every yearly/bi-yearly sports games. I never had the need to touch any of them.

      Before the disastrous reveal of Mass Effect Andromeda in Dec last year, I was actually excited to be purchasing my first EA game of the gen………….. and they even managed to screw that up.

      As you can imagine, the idea of an “EA” Access repulses me. More like EA Why lol.

    • S. Cruz

      Lmao sorry i don’t really care what you play or don’t play. Your opinion on EA Access differs from mine and I’m okay with that. I got to play all the mass effect since i skipped them last gen for 30 bucks plus other games in the vault “I” enjoy. Again my statements were only Sony didn’t give players the option like the gamer I was responding to said, or that its only demo and streaming…which he also said and was incorrect.

    • AuricGoldfinger

      “Free game demos (That’s all EA Access and Early Access essentially is but you pay for it)”

      Did you really say EA Acces is free game demos? smh, you obviously don’t know what the service offers if that’s what you had to say about it lol.

      Second, you mention PS Now which is just a means to stream old games you may have owned or still own, in lower resolution with the possibility of LAG. Yet you say there’s no backwards compatibility because “WE” as in the playstation community don’t want it? Then why would they want PS Now? when it’s obviously the only solution to play previous gen games, you said yourself you don’t want. Mentions PS NOW, which requires an ALWAYS ONLINE CONNECTION, yet scoffed at Microsofts XB1 always online policy lol.

    • Holeybartender

      EA Access lets you play games before they release and give feedback,that is essentially a game demo.

      PS Now IS NOT backwards compatibility,streaming a digital game is not backwards compatibility. Does the Xbox One and PS4 read older discs?NO. Does Xbox One and PS4 have an emulator on the system to read older discs? NO. Can you put in an older disc and immediately play the game? NO.
      Xbox One and PS4 CANNOT do backwards compatibility. Xbox One downloads a digital game to your system and you play that. PS4 streams a digital game through PS Now and you play that. That IS NOT backwards compatibility.

    • C. Hoffer

      I wish M$ had not dropped the ball with that garbage One. The One S is what it should have been in 2013 as a minimum. No good exclusives now or coming. I have to buy the X as I can’t stand the freaking garbage One S I have now.

    • Wei Feng

      Should of been a 1080p capable system from the start.

    • Fweds

      Talking to yourself again, still at least you didn’t use the Upvotes on this one, Yet!

    • Wei Feng

      You enjoy that 720p sub 30fps your current media box then.

    • kma99

      Enjoy that hellblade ps pro 720 edition just to get 60 fps

    • J.j. Barrington

      Enjoy not playing it at all, lol.

    • kma99

      I have a ps4 plus a computer so what are you blabbering about? Lol oh i forgot you don’t have reading comprehension skills. You don’t know what first to console means now lol. Stupid

    • J.j. Barrington

      And yet you’re still the Xbox fanboy. How’s that work?

    • kma99

      And yet you are still all up in a Microsoft article crying on every other comment. How’s that working out for you. You still the resident dumb @ss?

    • J.j. Barrington

      “You still the resident dumb @ss?”

      That title shall forever be yours.

    • Wei Feng

      Use down votes then if you were ok with it not been a games focused console

    • Mr Xrat

      Limp emulation, bandwagoning on cross-play after everyone else did it to pad MAU numbers, paid beta testing, ripoff subscriptions on top of ripoff subscriptions. Then you pad it out with avatars, controllers with bad build quality and a streaming service no one uses? The reach is real. I’m starting to feel sorry for Xgimps.

    • Fweds

      Just in case you don’t know, “Mrxrat” posting here (Worst type of Sony fanboy) has many multis and you are just as likely to be replying to him on many posts here despite the different names.

      He also uses an Upvote Bot, notice the same amount of fake Upvotes on anything negative said about MS and anything positive about Sony.
      It is currently given them all 5 fake Upvotes.

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  • Holeybartender

    No,Microsoft’s problem was they tried to control the living room and left gaming on the backburner. Their TV and DRM features overshadowed the gaming capabilities of the console and in the process confused people as to what direction the Xbox One was heading. Was it a gaming console with TV features or was it a media center that happened to play games? When the gaming is in question and your core audience are gamers your message is confused. The gamers spoke out,Microsoft told them to shut up,Microsoft lost the gamers trust. THAT is what killed them and they had to not only 180 everything but ran off into the woods with their tails on fire.

    • AuricGoldfinger

      Sony and Microsoft both had similar intentions. One company presented first, and the other countered with what the consumers wanted. Then 3 years later, turned around and implemented Playstation VUE TV service. As if that wasn’t their strategy all along. Funny how everyone overlooks PS Vue, but when it was MS doing the TV talk they were met with tremendous amounts of backlash. When at the time, was providing the AAA exclusives while Sony was relying on third party deals, and remasters :-/

    • Jaryd O’Donnell

      Sony are doing everything people hated about the 360 last gen and what people criticised the Xbox One for and are getting applauded for it. The hypocrisy over it is unbelievable. Maybe MS, like Sega, were ahead of their time. Or maybe, as usual, it’s only OK when Sony does it…

    • J.j. Barrington

      Everything? Which thing? Even one?

    • Holeybartender

      No one overlooked PS Vue because it wasn’t a problem.It’s because Sony wasn’t trying to shove PS Vue in your face like Microsoft was by requiring you to pay them additionally to use things like cable,Netflix and YouTube. Vue was and is offered as an alternative unlike Microsoft was. Vue may have been implemented 3 years later but Sony’s intent for the service was announced during PS4 ‘s launch.

      Oh and don’t talk about Sony relying on third-party deals and remasters to float the PS4’s game catalogue. Microsoft was just as guilty of those as Sony was with deals like with The Division and COD. The remasters were a part of Microsoft’s lineup as Sony’s with games like the Halo Master Chief Collection.

    • Mr Xrat

      “When at the time, was providing the AAA exclusives while Sony was relying on third party deals, and remasters”

      Funny how you keep repeating this line when your big 2014 game was a broken remaster collection.

    • andrewsqual

      “One company presented first, and the other countered with what the consumers wanted”

      Lol the PS4 reveal was first so Xbone One “countered with what the consumers wanted”? At the worse games console reveal in history?

      Right after the PS4 reveal http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-21-playstation-4-does-not-require-an-internet-connection Why do you people still deny this???
      Again, 2 weeks before the worse games console reveal in history http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-05-08-sony-definitively-rules-out-always-online-for-ps4 It was fact BEFORE Xbone was even a thing.

      You are right though, Microsoft HAD the chance to one up Sony that went first and failed gargantuanly.

    • AuricGoldfinger

      If I’m not mistaken, Microsofts E3 presentation was mainly about games. The console reveal was about the console features. From what I remember about that E3 presentation was seeing games like RYSE, and TITANFALL on display. Can’t remember much else, because the moment I heard “Standby for Titanfall” I immediately headed to Gamestop and preordered an xbox one.

      I also had my PS4 since launch as well, but only game I played at launch was Killzone. A while later I picked up Second Son which I platinumed by the way. Anyhow, it’s evident you’re a playstation fanboy by the way you say XBONE, while I’m a gamer who doesn’t worship one particular piece of plastic over the other lol.

    • Mr Xrat

      “Can’t remember much else, because the moment I heard “Standby for
      Titanfall” I immediately headed to Gamestop and preordered an xbox one.”

      Sure hope you had the self-awareness to feel extreme foolishness six months later.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Auric, you’re still pedaling crap, aren’t you?

      Your first sentence is a lie. Your second sentence is true, but you intend for the involved companies to be the other way around than reality. Your third sentence is a false equivalency, trying to make PS Vue into the same thing as what Microsoft did. Your fourth sentence continues that. Your fifth sentence doesn’t even make sense, even if I add in the missing Xbox.

    • AuricGoldfinger

      Are you saying I didn’t sell my PSVR a few weeks after it launched for $700? lol, let me see if I can pull up the eBay listing so you can eat crow.

      I would post my psn ID as well, but Im sure you would claim I don’t have a playstation as well lol.

    • J.j. Barrington

      I’m just claiming your crap is what it is: crap.

      “Sony and Microsoft both had similar intentions.”

      Days after they announced the PS4, Yoshida said they had no plans to block used games. Google it. Or don’t, since it would throw in your face that you’re a liar.

      “One company presented first, and the other countered with what the consumers wanted.”

      Sony presented their console first, though they weren’t at E3 first. And it was Sony that gave consumers what they wanted. It was weeks, months after E3 that Microsoft listened to consumers, even though those same consumers had been voicing their opinion even prior to the PS4 announcement. That’s not the picture you want painted, though, is it?

      “Then 3 years later, turned around and implemented Playstation VUE TV service.”

      Unfortunately for you, that’s nowhere near the same as debuting your gaming console with a bunch of talk about TV and sports deals. It’s not the same as building your console with TV usage in mind. One more fail on your part.

      “Funny how everyone overlooks PS Vue, but when it was MS doing the TV talk they were met with tremendous amounts of backlash.”

      I miscounted, but the fact remains that you’re making a false equivalency here. Optional TV programming YEARS after a console releases isn’t the same thing and you know it. Everybody does.

      “When at the time, was providing the AAA exclusives while Sony was relying on third party deals, and remasters”

      You mean exclusives pulled from the 360? Or third party deals like Titanfall? Or remasters like Killzone? See, the problems with the things you say is that they’re objectively false, and instead of you debating that you… did what? Deflected to whether or not you own a PlayStation?

      What does that have to do with anything?

    • PlaySaviour4

      PlayStation started with no in house first party studio and amassed 250 + third party developers (especially those burned with Nintendo) before its launch in 1994.
      That same principle stands to this very day.
      PlayStation is the champion of third party developers and publishers-always.

    • Wei Feng

      Bang on

    • Charlieholmes06

      Funny how you, a gamer, understands the issue much better than anyone else out there in the industry!

      Your points are exactly what turned me off to MS in 2013!

    • Holeybartender

      But,but,but I’m just a poor blind Sony Pony who can’t see anything past my PlayStation logo…

  • Mr Xrat

    Not really. They had no choice if they didn’t want to get completely wrecked. Unfortunately they didn’t attend to every other problem with the brand, likely because there wasn’t the will to do so when it was such a big part of the culture.

    Funny these devs are still trying to get into Xgimp good books, looks like their earlier attempts didn’t go so well.

    • Sp4ctr0
    • Wei Feng

      The fake 4k defence force back in action.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/83c19fb6bab5a85a05cbf470f3925515058c439487ccbf1c1de09efbbad04fbf.jpg

      Yes, defend and praise it by force!

    • Fweds

      You sound as if you bought the dreadful PS Protato so I can understand you being angry, but making up silly things about a very powerful rival console is not going to change the fact that you bought an underpowered console that has been superseded so early in it’s life.

    • Wei Feng

      So the 4k isn’t compromised on the xbox x and I made it up.

    • Fweds

      What you clearly, Very clearly don’t like is that there is a console about to release that is far more powerful than your console in EVERY way, it also has far better features.

      You are acting like your console will suddenly stop working simply because it is not as powerful, you have truly been suckered by brand name advertising .

    • Wei Feng

      Fake 4K Checkerboarding netbook Jaguar CPU console is a “Monster”

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e7d9d35d93eb7a0aa3140e1abf788a1e1b02e7060990d23088d4194001b3117f.gif

    • Fweds

      Your PlayStation console has weak hardware and even it’s jaguar CPU is non customized, it is already redundant and doesn’t sell very well because of that fact, most PS4 owners were not fooled by the PS Protato claims and the thing is dead in the water.

      The Xbox1X is a powerhouse and outperforms the PS Protato’s hardware at every level and also has some great extra features.
      Looking forward to next week’s Gamescom show where they will announce the pre order date, if they show more of the “Anthem” game on Xbox1X let’s hope it doesn’t also end up on the Sony channel with a PS4 controller overlayed on it.

      Game releases for this year.

      Sony have…
      A DLC game now being released as standalone at full price and a cut down GT spinoff that despite having hardly any features is still full price !.

      MS have …
      Forza 7. (The full game)
      Cuphead. (The full game)
      Crackdown 3. (The full game)
      State of Decay 2. (The full game)

    • Cypher-Unknown

      Nice comprehensive list of games released on the PS4 in 2017 you have there. True Microsoft influenced logic that it’s only the holiday period that matters.

    • Ucouldntbemorewrong

      Well when your a little kid all you have is your B-Day and Holidays.

    • Fweds

      You actually got @ genuine Upvote ! Congratulations.

      That Upvote Bot is working overtime on this topic, what are the Sony fanboy’s getting today looks like it’s set for 5 fake Upvotes for all.

    • Fweds

      Your comment is less factual than those 5 fake Upvotes you have got, all the Sony fanboy’s are getting 5 fake Upvotes on this topic by the Upvote Bot user.

    • Cypher-Unknown

      Less factual than only 2 exclusives released on PS4 this year?

    • J.j. Barrington

      Trying so hard, man..

    • Wei Feng

      he should work for xbox japan, maybe he can sell more than 20 a week

    • Sacha Salvatore Morgese

      I wish they sold 20 a week. Have been trying to sell my Xbox One in Tokyo for a year and it’s just a waste of time.

    • Fweds

      Ahh I see, and why exactly have you ignored the person the multi who i replied to and also gave you those 5 Fake Upvotes? OH HANG ON !! ITS Barrington the one who made up a load of nonsense simply because Xbox Live beat PSN in tests.

      Very likely yet another name used by the obsessive Sony fanboy who patrols all Xbox news.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Hmm? I made something up?

      You mean like your reductive list for the PS4?

    • PlaySaviour4

      PS4 Pro checker board rendering is the smartest and best move by Sony than Microsoft’s impractical “true 4K” approach when it comes to 4K gaming.

      Display technique is key not file size in 4K gaming.
      Sony has cut down the price tag of 4K gaming with PS4 Pro.

    • Fweds

      You didn’t even get 1 fake Upvote ! Your post wasn’t Sony fanboy enough try harder.

    • PlaySaviour4

      If games can be displayed in “4K” resolution on 4K TVs with the smallest file size possible yet optimum performance then that will be good news for both PS4 Pro and Xbox One X gamers and developers.

      Happy gaming!

    • Sacha Salvatore Morgese

      Uncharted is 40$, there’s been a ton of awesome games coming out this year and, lol, it’s still Jaguar, no matter how hard the word “custom” makes you.

      God, being an Xbox fanboy must be really hard these days.

    • Fweds

      I wasn’t the one talking about CPU’s try going back through the posts and look at the multi I was replying to, he is simply trying to play down the Xbox1X power for no other reason than it is not in his console.
      (Or have you deliberately ignored there posts because they are Sony fanboys ?)

      But anyway at the end of the day it doesn’t matter about any hardware beyond the fact that every bit of the XboxX is more powerful the the Pro.

      You mean there were games that came out this year yes I agree with that and now there are Xbox games coming out this year again the fanboys who I replied to don’t want to acknowledge that.

    • Sacha Salvatore Morgese

      Yeah, Xbox One X is more powerful than a PS4 Pro, but the post that started this chain was pretty much “fanboy 101”. PS4 fanboys try to play it down saying that the FP16 will be able to make up for the 40% more power, Xbox fanboys insist that Xbox One X will be a beast in power that will open up a new generation.

      As a matter of fact, it won’t, mostly because of the CPU.

      Also, the amount of games Sony has this year and next year is insane, to the point that not having a PS4 means missing a shitload of AAA games. You know who won’t miss XBox One games? People with a PC. You know who can already play 30fps sub HD Xbox games at 1080/1440/2160p/60fps? Yep, that’s right.

      If power really mattered, Microsoft would have rocked the early 2000 with a console 5 times as powerful as a PS2 and the most popular graphic cards would be 1080ti and Titan XP.

      So man, fanboys are annoying no matter what (Nintendo fanboys are actually the worst, but the Switch is amazing), but trying to convince people Xbox One X will be revolutionary or change things is sad. Don’t be delutional and start to enjoy games, not brands. All of them have something to give.

    • Ucouldntbemorewrong

      Xberts, lol

    • Fweds

      If you would of just said “Xbert” those 5 Fake Upvotes you have would of equaled 1 per letter.

    • marc Berry

      Add this to the list 4K/60 compromised!

      “First and foremost, F1 2017 runs in True 4K resolution on Microsoft’s Xbox One X. No upscaling, no checkerboarding, or any other dynamic rendering techniques from what we could see – this is a full 2160p with a resolution of 3840 × 2160 at a locked 60 frames-per-second, and like Forza Motorsport 7, it looks glorious. Codemasters had a great showing for F1 2017 at E3 2017, which was located at Microsoft’s Xbox booth.”

      https://i.imgur.com/suwZE2u.jpg
      https://i.imgur.com/35q9HKc.jpg
      https://ar12gaming.com/articles/f1-2017-hands-on

      Ms never said you had to use the “uncompromised” power for 4K of XB1X but some will !

    • Wei Feng

      Cool, another checkerboarding title.

      Joins a whole list of 3rd party games that “compromise” the 4k.

      That’s the excuse now , so the developers don’t want to use the full Native 4K power, but think its better to downgrade the visuals with checkerboarding?

    • marc Berry

      “First and foremost, F1 2017 runs in True 4K resolution
      on Microsoft’s Xbox One X. No upscaling, no checkerboarding, or any
      other dynamic rendering techniques from what we could see – this is a
      full 2160p with a resolution of 3840 × 2160 at a locked 60
      frames-per-second, and like Forza Motorsport 7, it looks glorious. Codemasters had a great showing for F1 2017 at E3 2017, which was located at Microsoft’s Xbox booth.”

      Time to take that “L”! What part of
      “No upscaling, no checkerboarding” don’t you get?

    • Wei Feng

      Oh right the “true 4K”

      Mark Cerny was right. 8TF minimum for real Native 4k

      No checkerboarding, dynamic or true 4k upscaled needed with true power.

      Xbox One X Hardware Already Falls Short, Can’t Run Shooter Killing 2 at native 4K

      “The FPS drop was significant when Killing Floor 2 was running at native 4” said the developer.

      Not even out and it’s an uncompromised 4k fail.

    • Fweds

      Your replying to a multi.

    • Ucouldntbemorewrong

      That’s one game sparky…MS claimed compromised native 4K on XB1X.

    • Wei Feng

      It’s checkerboard Fake True 4k.
      Re-check that. Not Native 4k

    • PlaySaviour4

      PS4 Pro checker board rendering is the smart and best move by Sony than Microsoft’s impractical “true 4K” approach when it comes to 4K gaming.

      Display technique is key not file size in 4K gaming.

    • Wei Feng

      Code masters confirmed it’s checkerboarding True Fake 4k. Not native.

      The System isn’t a monster, so needs to compromise the 4k.

    • Mr Xrat

      Wouldn’t surprise me. Track racer.

      “from what we could see” LOL real convincing. Got a better source than some Xgimp website?

    • Hvd

      8.4 tflops……lmao.

    • Wei Feng

      Yeah, its funny that the xbox x is a weaker 6Tflops and they think it can do 4k native.

    • Fweds

      8.4 tflops……lmao. Mark Cerny. Lol.

      And who does Cery work for ? Err let me think.

      Oh yes I remember it’s SONY.

      HA haaaaa.

    • Fweds

      Lol.
      He also quoted “Mark Cerny” guess who he works for ? It starts with an S and finishes with a Y

    • Paul Garrison

      All that means nothing if MS isn’t releasing new AAA games that couldn’t be played the PS4. However, there isn’t anything wrong with window dressing.

    • Sp4ctr0

      98% of games are released on every platform… All of those games always work better on faster hardware. Games such as Red Dead Redemption 2, FarCry5, COD WW2, Wolfenstein 2 will look and play much better on Xbox X because it is 2x faster than PS4 Pro (and 4x faster than PS4)

    • Sacha Salvatore Morgese

      PS4: 1.8 tflops
      PS4 Pro: 4.2 tflops
      Xbox One X: 6 tflops

      6 : 4.2 = 1.43
      Xbox One it’s not even 50% faster than a PS4 Pro. It’s pretty much the same difference we have now between base PS4 and Xbox One.

      6 : 1.8 = 3.33
      So it’s not 4x faster than a PS4.

      Games will definitely run better, but you won’t see any graphics showcase with no exclusives.

    • Wei Feng

      Xbox x NO FP16 ability
      PS4 PRO 8.4Tflops of fp16

      Both are checkerboarders

    • Mr Xrat

      Keep spamming this, Xgimp, it doesn’t make the Xbone any less of a joke. 🙂

    • phoxache

      “Funny these devs are still trying to get into Xgimp good books, looks like their earlier attempts didn’t go so well.”

      You know these are parts of the same GamingBolt interview that are being published in parts, right?

      I didn’t suddenly start shouting about things randomly or reach out to the media with an agenda. I was asked questions and just answered honestly.

      Nothing at all wrong with our relationship with any of the platform holders but thanks for your concern, anyway. 😀

    • J.j. Barrington

      I don’t think there was ever any “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” to the situation. They were damned because of what they tried to do, simple as that.

    • SJ777

      Ahh lol, looks like sonys paid advertising has shown up and boosted himself to the top. The snakes are slithering in a panic, it will be a full blown anti-Xbox frenzy as November gets closer. Expect sony to do some major damage control for the PS Slo directly as November approaches. Seriously, expect some flat out lies. In which they will direct their meatpuppets like MrXrat here to push on forums and comments sections. Expect sony to buy stories promoting whatever lies they can come up with on websites large and small. Get ready for a shot of disinformation to saturate the gaming world. This is how it works with sony, and any other business or political idealogy. Its called “astroturfing”, and is cheaper than actual honest advertising.

    • SJ777

      Ahh lol, looks like sonys paid advertising has shown up and boosted himself to the top. The snakes are slithering in a panic, it will be a full blown anti-Xbox campaign frenzy as November gets closer. Expect sony firsthand to do some major damage control for the PS Slo directly as November approaches. Expect some flat out lies about the PlayStation Slo to come straight from the mouth of sony. In which they will direct their meatpuppets like MrXrat here to push on forums and comments sections. Also, expect sony to buy stories promoting whatever lies they can come up with on websites large and small. Get ready for a shot of disinformation to saturate the gaming world. This is how it works with sony, and any other business or political idealogy that doesn’t mind shady practices. Its called “astroturfing”, and is cheaper than actual honest advertising.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wi

    • Fweds

      Fake Upvotes getting Sony fanboys to the top of the page, just shows their posts have no actual merit…

  • Ucouldntbemorewrong

    MS had done a pretty good turn around on what launched, and the leftovers of people still pissed off from the RLOD days.

  • Giselle Brady

    This guy is a some kind of friend of Microsoft. What an idiot! DRM and 24 hr check is called being a scumbag.

    • Fweds

      Fake Upvotes getting Sony fanboys to the top of the page, just shows their posts have no actual merit.

    • Mark

      Well it was a tradeoff, we suffer DRM, but we’d be allowed to share games with 10 friends. Some people liked it, some didn’t want that tradeoff. But MS had horrible PR messaging from the start. I wouldn’t call him an idiot for that

  • Christian Armstrong

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with being vocal about the frustrations with your games console but the thing about all the hate towards the Xbox is most of it is by people who do not actually game on Xbox. Personally I game on xbox, playstation and PC but my Xbox is my main gaming machine cause that’s where my friends are and I can game share with my daughter. I just don’t understand why if you don’t own or play on a console be it sony, Nintendo or MS then why do people really care how good or bad it is.

    • J.j. Barrington

      With those types of policies, not many people wound up buying the Xbox… so it seems they go hand in hand.

    • Christian Armstrong

      You talk like 10 or 20 consoles were sold, still though dunno what thats got to do with what i wrote :s

    • J.j. Barrington

      You say the hate for Xbox is mostly from people that don’t have one… well, they don’t have one because they don’t like the product Microsoft is offering.

      And I DON’T talk like ten or twenty consoles were sold. I talk like the XB1 is tracking behind its predecessor and getting outsold 2:1 by the market leader.

      It’s weird that you “just don’t understand” why people who don’t own something care. If you’ve been gaming more than a few years, you know that trends can be set, even on bad things. Microtransactions, DRM, on-disc DLC… even paying for online. Those are reasons to not buy, reasons to want to make sure the product supporting such things is unsuccessful.

      I tore into Microsoft last gen, largely on the strength of the RROD, but saw the XB1 reveal as their chance to win me over for THIS gen. That conference full of TV and sports deals told me EXACTLY what they thought of their gaming division, and the little hypocritical actions and contradictions since haven’t helped. I got my 360 a couple of years back for a handful of games that interested me, but that I couldn’t play anywhere else; even that motivation doesn’t exist this time around.

      So while I wanted a reason to buy, Xbox gave me reasons not to. And every time an article about the brand pops up, I keep hoping I’ll hear more than lip service, more than token gestures. While I wait, I debate with people who can’t seem to understand that people aren’t so black and white in their reasoning.

    • Christian Armstrong

      30 million people isn’t a not many people though, it’s half my countries population. I’ve been gaming for 36 years so yeah more than a couple but to say people hate on xbox because of “Microtransactions, DRM, on-disc DLC… even paying for online” then why buy PS4 as they are the same on both machines.
      To say people hate MS cause they don’t like the product they are offering, that’s fine but just look at some of the comments on here about how bad the xbox one x cpu is even though it’s the same as all the other consoles of this gen minus the switch. or look at the PS4 stories with people rubbing in about PS4 pro checkerboarding even though 99.9% of people would not know the difference. Sounds more like people hating just for the sake of hating,
      But people get their joys in different ways, some seem to buy a console just to moan about the one they don’t have. Me, I’d rather take that time and actually play games on my games station

    • J.j. Barrington

      Mmhmm.

  • SalvagedXBot

    I’m so confused why people hate on xbox so much, it’s not like someone is going around forcing people at gunpoint to buy the damn thing.

    • J.j. Barrington

      You can’t honestly be confused by now. There have been years of easy-to-understand explanations as to why folks didn’t like Microsoft’s original plans for the XB1.

    • kma99

      Spoken by a true fanboy lol

    • J.j. Barrington

      Great exposition on how my take is incorrect.

      Oh, wait. It’s just an Xbox fanboy being stupid, as usual.

    • SJ777

      Sony pays people to “astroturf” social media when they need to sway things in their favor. It floors me that the general public seems to be unaware of this practice. Sony has been doing it for years. Look at the ps3, it was an utter garbage game console. Sony was able to convince the naive that it was the most powerful console by astroturfing social media, and gaming media with meatpuppet marketing. Developers hated the ps3, so what happened. Meatpuppets started the “lazy developer” excuse, which was complete bull****. The ps3 couldnt perform equal to the 360 because it wasn’t gaming focused hardware. The Cell was not designed for gaming, it was designed to help the Blu-ray drive in the ps3 produce good image quality.

      People just need to be aware of all the forces at play, and not believe everything they are hearing. You can bet your a** that sometime between now and November Sony will do some astroturfing. I expect they will attempt to make the gap between the ps4 pro and the X appear smaller than it actually is. Then their meatpuppets will parrot the lies they are trying to make people believe. That is how a company can convince naïve people that the s*** sandwich they are eating is the best thing ever. In my over 30yrs enjoying the gaming hobby Sony has been one of the most crooked companies Ive seen in the gaming industry.

  • Hvd

    it doesnt matter i will never buy a play station because its community is garbage,sony lies..8.4 tflops..lmao.controller sucks,psn is crap and i dont like qte exclusives.

    id rather have real games like halo,forza,gears.

  • PlaySaviour4

    Xbox One X can not beat PS4 just by brute force.

  • Edonus

    Its good and sad too see people finally waking up and at least speaking out on the bias and unfair unbalanced situation the Xbox One has been in this gen. You have sony shills running around trying to tell us what we see doesn’t exist. The xbox one launch was not a bad pitch…… the reality of what happened is just like now MS never got the chance to sell their product with out the audience being conditioned with a negative slant.

    I see people talk about DRM and always online…….. MS never said anything official about those things in the console reveal. They didn’t say anything about that stuff during their first E3 either. It was all being pushed and perpetuated by the media in the background so you ended up having people that aren’t salesman or even in the loop caught out there trying to explain policies that weren’t even finalized.

    And the media was being extremely lacks with ethics……… they would run a story saying “Xbox One wont allow you to trade games” ten when it comes out that they were putting a system in place another article comes out “you maybe able to trade games on the Xbox One”. They would turn a half assed off the cuff phrase like “we are looking in to a system so you can trade in games.” in to several multipage articles with no details on the process or official statements about the what the wanted to do and 90% of it would be speculation and subjective takes on possible ways it could negatively effect gamers.

    No retractions, or public acknowledgement of corrected info…. then you have the pure hate and propaganda.

    For example……yo always see people talking about MS reveal was talkin about TV. Now the TV. TV. TV. TV. meme was a good joke….. but the reality is I like the majority of the world watch TV. The media pushed and nurtured this idea of the console being more about TV than games. Everybody not wanting to buy in to the non sense knew the Xbox One was a gaming console first. Sad thing is the reveal wasn’t really about TV it was about how the console blended gaming and entertainment together and made them a seamless experience. The launch Xbox One features was easily the most advanced entertainment set up I ever experienced…. I loved it…… but with all the hate MS gradually chopped those features out. That is my biggest beef with MS this gen. I hate when I buy something and it starts with something and then they take it away.

    • J.j. Barrington

      You must get a massive check from Microsoft every two weeks.

    • THE4point2TFLOPweakness

      Sony better don’t pay you anything with stupid co.ments like that Sony Poopny

    • J.j. Barrington

      “Better don’t?” And you’re calling other people’s comments stupid? lmao.

    • THE4point2TFLOPweakness

      Because you are stupid haha

    • J.j. Barrington

      That’s… not even clever.


 

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