PS4 Games Could See Increased Visual Fidelity, Lesser Load Times, Granite’s Texture Streaming Detailed

Graphine’s CEO Aljosha Demeulemeester explains how hardware virtual texturing works using Granite SDK.

Posted By | On 22nd, Apr. 2014 Under News | Follow This Author @GamingBoltTweet


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PlayStation 4 features PSSL [PlayStation Shader Language], a custom shader language which is a mix of DX11 and OpenGL 4.4. Many of you must not be aware that the PlayStation 4 is capable of supporting Partially Resident Textures, which is  roughly equivalent to tiled streaming using DirectX on the Xbox One.

So what are Partially Resident Textures? As the name suggests, Partially Resident Textures are the only texture portions that needs to be placed in the GPU at one time. John Carmack’s famous ‘Megatexture’ technology in RAGE is an excellent example of  Partially Resident Textures. In short this method improves the cache and memory bandwidth. So if the developer does not want to render an entire texture, he/she can load only the relevant bits resulting into better texture streaming and cutting down the amount of redundant texture processing.

This is where Graphine Software comes in. Graphine focuses on delivering texture streaming and texture compression middleware for the games and visualization industries. Using Graphine Software’s Granite SDK, even more better looking games with reduced load times can be made possible on the PlayStation 4.

Aljosha Demeulemeester, Graphine CEO confirmed to GamingBolt that Partial Resident Textures for the PlayStation 4 is aimed at doing the same thing as the Tiled Resources feature of DX 11.1+ using Granite SDK.

“Sony has announced that Partially Resident Textures (PRT) is available for PS4. This is aimed at doing the same thing as the Tiled Resources feature of DX 11.1+. We sometime refer to both using the term ‘hardware virtual texturing’,” he said to GamingBolt.

So how does Granite SDK actually works with  ‘hardware virtual texturing’ and how it can improve graphical fidelity and cut down load times? Aljosha gave a very in-depth explanation for the same.

“We call Granite SDK a fine-grained streaming system because we load very small tiles of texture data. This is happening in the background while playing the game. The size of the tiles is configurable but a commonly used setting is 128×128 pixels. When using virtual texturing, you will only load the texture tiles into memory that are actually viewed by the virtual camera. The main benefit is that you can save on the amount of video memory that you need for you texture data, but there are a bunch of side benefits. Loading times are reduced and disk access is more constant and predictable. The bottom-line is that you can really increase the graphical fidelity of games, while staying within the limited of the current hardware,” Aljosha stated to GamingBolt.

But due to slightly different architectures of the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One [the former has unified and the latter has embedded memory architecture], is the process of texture streaming different across the two consoles? This question could easily come up for a developer who is working on a multiplatform game using the Granite SDK.

That is actually not a problem, according to Aljosha. “Granite SDK indeed takes care of all the platform specific stuff and makes sure that you’re up and running quickly on both platforms. Granite exposes a set of configuration parameters like the size of the texture cache in main memory, the amount of threads used for decoding, the maximum allowed throughput of texture data per frame, etc.”

However a game developer will still need to tweak the parameters according to the game’s needs.

“A game developer will want to tweak these parameters depending on the behaviour of his/her own game, and based on the capabilities of the hardware of a specific platform. We provide fast implementations of the Granite runtime for both platforms so that only the values of these configuration parameters might change on the different platforms(from the game developer’s perspective that is),” Aljosha added.

Granite SDK currently supports PC, Mac, Linux, PS4 and Xbox One.

This is just a snippet of our interview with Graphine Software and we will have the complete interview this Friday.


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  • Kevin Kirby

    LMFAO!! Now watch all the Sony Ponies say yup this is possible and great yet when all this has been talked about for X1 Sony Ponies be like naa can’t happen fake now watch the complete 180 from the Sony Ponies

    • ryan dungey

      It was confirmed last year that the ps4 used partially resident textures. Just because this is the first you have heard of it you automatically think everyone that supports sony are going to think it’s great

    • Psionicinversion

      Yeah they will and its complete BS, loooool look at all the X1 and its cr@ppy texture streaming our big bad pool of memory doesnt need that rubbish 176GB/s blah blah blah…. even though Infamous uses it as sucker punch has stated it does, its not a big part of the game but still uses it none the less.

      I’ll just wait for maxwell/AMD Pirate Islands and both those high end gfx cards are going to make these consoles look like the little toys 3 year olds play with cus there getting a massive power increase if rumours are right AMD 390x should be outputting 7.5-8TFLOPS and nvidia will prolly more powerful than that.

    • Xtreme Derp

      “Behave yourself in the comments and beware of the ban hammer. Enjoy the article by engaging in fruitful discussion.”

      Whoops looks like we have our first failure already. A completely worthless flamebait post by a fanboy with negative technical knowledge.

      Anyone with a clue already knew both PS4 and Xbox could use hardware level texture streaming via AMD’s GCN Partially Resident Textures feature.

    • DX12

      Seriously Gamingbolt. This guy is already trolling/misbehaving. Him and Psionicinversion (another looney toons, if you ask me). This Kirby guy does nothing but troll.

    • Psionicinversion

      ill give you about 10 posts before you get banned lol

    • Dakky

      says the guy who if i google his name i will find posts replying to people saying “mentally ill fanboy, imbecile delusional, dumb as bricks and always wrong”

    • Xtreme Derp

      That describes you perfectly.

    • Dakky

      banned, hurts eh?

    • You are flat out wrong

      Guess you didn’t read the warning, huh?

    • Psionicinversion

      the warning came after our initial posts which is why these posts are below the warning

    • Dakky

      id like that warning to actually do something not like the lat time it was posted and did NOTHING to the trolls.

    • Dakky

      Sony pony logic involves talking down everything on xbox and make it true when its on playstaion.

      Example x360 had triggers they hated it, Then ps4 got triggers and they thought it was awesome.

      Another example psn was free so they rubbed at xbot faces now that psn isnt free they DAMAGE CONTROL and make it as iff sony did the right thing and they are all awesome.

      Pc had indie games, they called them pieces of trash, now they are on ps4, they cant stop talking how much fun they have with warframe and dont starve and outlast.

      Hyporcricy 101.

      I bet if ps4 gets cloud computing they will change their tune again.

    • twinspectre

      PS4 already have cloud computing and i still think it will NOT improve the Hardware , im not DUMB like the xbots http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/08/09/playstation-brings-on-rackspace-talent-to-help-with-openstack-private-cloud-deployment/

    • Dakky

      i dont know, i think xbox’s demonstration hinted that:

      http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Microsoft-Demonstrates-Power-Cloud-Xbox-One-63207.html

      Now how it will work in reallity is a diffirent thing.

      If its real and cloud computes better than high end pcs as the demonstration shows, then its a whole diffirent deal.

    • twinspectre

      it will do Nothing , believe me
      if Cloud Computing will improve the Hardware then tell me why Turn 10 dumbed down Forza 5 ????

    • Psionicinversion

      it wasnt dumbed down as such the drivatars are supposed be quite good, gfx isnt everything although sorry talking to you sony ponies who threw watchdogs under the bus for its gfx them call PC gamers elitist gfx wh0r3s

    • Dakky

      i dont know cuz no cloudcomputing yet? I am a pc gamer i never bought a xbox console but the way they making it sound is like xbox doesnt have down to the metal low level acess api and it will benefit from dx12 and ditching kinect.

      Whatever the case it wont change the sole fact ps4 is more powerfull.

    • twinspectre

      DX12 will benefits only PC

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt. Only dumb, demented, delusional microsoft fanboys disagree.

      Why are microsoft fanboys so dumb and delusional and hate it when knowledgeable people state tech facts and reality? You sound upset that reality doesn’t match your delusions and dreams.

      Apologizing for your overpriced, underpowered piece of plastic by pointing to a high end PC. LOL

      You hate the fact that PS4 is more powerful, has more dev support, and is outselling by 3 million. You have a meltdown over anyone smarter and more knowledegable than you. I have a high end PC and a PS4, they both have their pros and cons and are in different markets. You’re an asshurt Microsoft fanboy clinging to PCs that won’t admit reality.

    • Dakky

      cry some more sony f@ggot you got banned now i will ban you are flat out wrong and gaminbolt will be a better place

    • Dakky

      I am a pc gamer never owned a xbox cry some more.

    • twinspectre

      you dumbass , granite sdk doesn’t improve the Hardware , now i know it ,MS is great for dumbasses, they didn’t say Hardware improvements and DX12 doesn’t Improve the Hardware

    • jnemesh

      WTF is up with “Sony Ponies”??? Is that the best you can do, Xboners?

    • You are flat out wrong

      They think it’s witty. It’s rather cute.

  • incendy

    Aren’t the Move Engines in X1 designed to work with this feature? Wonder if PS4 has something similar

    • Psionicinversion

      they can move stuff around without impacting the GPU or someat, think there designed to shift stuff between esram and ddr3, not sure though tbh should google it see if it says anything

    • incendy

      It says they are engines for offloading Tiling, decoding JPEG and for most common compression formats. There is no specific information on exactly how they work though. Was curious if anyone here knew anything more on it.

    • Xtreme Derp

      “Move Engines” is a fancy PR name for DMA (Direct Memory Access) registers that shuffle bits between DDR3 and ESRAM without burdening the CPU/GPU. They don’t “calculate” anything or do CPU/GPU-like work, they compress/decompress/tile texture data for efficiency’s sake and shuffle it between the split memory setup.

      It’s a way to improve memory bandwidth, it’s not special sauce or some “new way of programming game engines”. It doesn’t make the GPU any better at rendering although it might help alleviate memory bottlenecks.

      http://www.redgamingtech.com/xbox-one-hardware-specs-and-architecture-part-2

      http://www.redgamingtech.com/xbox-one-vs-playstation4-specs-and-performance

      http://www.vgleaks.com/world-exclusive-durangos-move-engines

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-the-xbox-one-architects

    • incendy

      ” shuffle bits between DDR3 and ESRAM without burdening the CPU/GPU. They don’t “calculate” anything or do CPU/GPU-like work” Don’t those two sentences completely contradict each other? You say it does tasks to free up the GPU/CPU and then say that doesn’t do any processing. Obviously they do, even in those links, it says they have preset instructions for those specific tasks.

    • Xtreme Derp

      CPU/GPU-like work meaning typical graphics rendering tasks that don’t necessarily have to do with improving memory bandwidth.

      But yes it does free up time for the Xbox CPU to do other things besides compress/decompress data to be moved between DDR3 and ESRAM.

    • incendy

      JPEG decoding, tiling and decompressing textures are not only graphical tasks, but among the most common CPU related graphical computing tasks in existence. Or at least in my time programming.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Yeah, what I was trying to say is they’re not “special sauce” like some misterxmedia followers think. Probably worded that badly.

    • Psionicinversion

      the thing with tiled resources is, isnt that a massive waste for the PS4 seeing as it has 4.5GB ram? unless you can set the tile sizes much bigger but then it wont make it very efficient, can only see it being a fill in for ps4 and not a major feature

    • Dakky

      i wonder if the rumor about games using only 6 cores are true as well.

    • Psionicinversion

      well if 2 are reserved for the OS so when you do all that sharing stuff its most probable even though sucker punch say the CPU is the bottleneck in PS4 atm

    • Dakky

      BUT BUT GUIRELLA SAID PS4 DOESNT HAVE BOTTLENECKS. But but cerny said that DDR3 isnt much of a bottlenck either…..seriously wtf?

    • Psionicinversion

      it doesnt have bottlenecks when your running in 960×1080 on multiplayer, think thats what they mean

    • Dakky

      shh its 1080p just like the order sony fanboys will change entire definitions to prove their points

    • Psionicinversion

      hahah yeah funny how all these things like infamous instantly down scaling textures for performance reasons come out later after its sold a load of software

    • Dakky

      man dont joke about it ps4 will be doing games like inflopious second fail in 10800/ 60 fps in a few years cuz you know it has some secret sauce in it that magically improves the hardware power, silly me thinking that x86 architecture and “console optimization” will allow ps4 and xbox one to perfom better than pcs and not require updated drivers and such nonsense…no wait thats exactly what they are gettign right now.

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah plus theyll be using outdated gpu architectures for the most part and considerably weaker… nvidia 337.5 drivers are doing wonders for cards at the moe and my mate said theyd added in some dx12 stuff to it to make that stuff happen, well stuff thats is compatible with dx11 as it stands cus nvidia bin working with MS for 2 years on it… so sign on things to come. he said a 750 went from 60fps to 90fps on BF4 which means can increase the detail settings haha

    • Dakky

      Oh come on now, ps4’s weak tablet 1.6ghz cpu will somehow manage to otuperfom 5ghz 8 cores due to “secret sony sauce” and it is aready proven that ps4 cpu is more powerfull than the 1.75ghz cpu of xbone despite the fact xbone cannot utilize all its cores and thats why they make dx12.

      750? you mean the 149$ gpu that run bf4 better than ps4?

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah now it runs it even better lol

    • Dakky

      Build a pc with maxwell in it and laugh at ps4 and xbone.

    • Psionicinversion

      both pirate islands and maxwell will destroy the consoles, they should be glad TSMC’s 20nm production is fully booked till later in the year, means theyve got more room to breathe before they get beaten badly

    • Dakky45

      PC GAMING IS AN EXPENSIVE MONEY PIT OF SH*T, WITH CONSTANT HARDWARE AND DRIVER UPGRADES, WITH PIRATES AND HACKER WHO RUIN ALL THE FUN OF ANY MULTIPLAYER GAMES. PC GAMING IS FOR PEASANTS.

    • Psionicinversion

      really my last build lasted me 6 years and i upgraded my gfx card twice, this build has lasted 3 years so far i upgraded my gfx card once which i needed to to run ultra on BF4 but will be upgrading next year to high end GPU like 390x (first really high end ive ever bought) to run SC comfortably and any other game for the next 4 years and sell this 280x for £150-200 so wont cost me to much… also the games i can run on max will look significantly better than console

    • Dakky

      sorry no 149$ gpu beats ps4 on bf4 cry some more clueless muppet

    • Psionicinversion

      750Ti does first taste of power of the maxwell architecture

    • Dakky

      check my reply to him i just destroyed him, his name is dan, he is a butthurt sony employe who goes around saying “ps4 is only 350$ the 50$ is the dualshock 4, its such a bargain, pc gaming sucks its filled with hackers and pirates and pc gamers are low life basement dwelling virgins.

      That kid seriously has no life and he is mad i proved his delusios wrong.

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah was funny… $50 was the dualshock 4? really, so it doesnt cost like $5 to make in china from some battery caged workers? $50 lol retail yeah not to make though talks out of his @ss

    • Dakky

      what you expect from a butthurt sony boy who loves ps4, thinks shadowfaill beats crysis 3 and thinks pc is a endless money pit and mp is filled with hackers that “ruin my enjoyment of mp games”

    • Psionicinversion

      well you bin on BF4 recently? if you go on a server and see some russian names…. yeah dont expect to have a fair game hahaha but its more challenging its having a legendary mode on multiplayer where it gives you better feeling on killing them :d

    • Xtreme Derp

      You’re very obviously an as*hurt Microsoft fanboy clinging to high end PCs to distract from his precious overpriced, underpowered piece of plastic.

      LOL another fanboy hiding behind a high end PC to justify their favorite underpowered, overpriced piece of plastic. Bu bu bu just buy a $1500 PC if you want teh graphix! Good lord you fanboys are so transparently stupid with your damage control.

      LOL delusional imbecile fanboy shoving its head up its as* to deny reality while hiding behind high end PCs to pretend its favorite piece of plastic isn’t overpriced and underpowered.

      Apologizing for your overpriced, underpowered piece of plastic by pointing to a high end PC. LOL

      It’s typical of Xbox fanboys to pretend the existence of a high end PC justifies an Xbox being more expensive yet less powerful.

    • Xtreme Derp

      You’re very obviously an as*hurt Microsoft fanboy clinging to high end PCs to distract from his precious overpriced, underpowered piece of plastic.

      LOL another fanboy hiding behind a high end PC to justify their favorite underpowered, overpriced piece of plastic. Bu bu bu just buy a $1500 PC if you want teh graphix! Good lord you fanboys are so transparently stupid with your damage control.

      LOL delusional imbecile fanboy shoving its head up its as* to deny reality while hiding behind high end PCs to pretend its favorite piece of plastic isn’t overpriced and underpowered.

      Apologizing for your overpriced, underpowered piece of plastic by pointing to a high end PC. LOL

      It’s typical of Xbox fanboys to pretend the existence of a high end PC justifies an Xbox being more expensive yet less powerful.,

    • Michael Norris

      Eh but not COD…that 128bit memory bus hinders it.

    • Psionicinversion

      COD is for n00bs anyway mate… these new ones best be good after there promises but i highly doubt it

    • twinspectre

      yeah , we need to build a maxwell gaming pc and play the filthy casual games.
      i consider modernPC and ModerConsole Gamers a bunch of Filthy Casuals
      Hardcore Gamers Master Race > PC master Race
      im facking tired listen all the elitist acting like they are Hardcore gamers because the graphic is supperior than the console
      you know what?, Graphic doesn’t make you a Hardcore Gamer , I’m the only one on the gaming community asking for Hardcore gaming (16/32/64bit era Gameplay) all of you filthy casual are demanding Graphic ,CONSOLE GAMERS and PC GAMERS are the same in my eye a bunch of filthy casuals

      deal with it and have a nice day

      FILTHY CASUALS ARE PAESANTS
      HARDCORE GAMER MASTER RACE

    • Michael Norris

      We already laugh at the Xbone…

    • Dakky

      more like crying. Yeah we know its crap, do you have to troll xbone on every article we get it

    • dakky45

      Get lost you stupid troll, Dakan45, you’re stupid trolling campaign against PS4 resulted in the fastest selling console in history. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHA. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL.

      The more you troll, the more you put people off PC gaming as they think all PC gamers are sad cellar dwelling r3tarded freaks like you. You really are biggest scummiest troll on the internet. And a failed troll at that. LOL.

    • Psionicinversion

      your stupid actually cus i dont see 7million ppl on these sites, so dont see how hes got anyting to do with it… try trolling again

    • Dakky

      someone is butthurt. if i am a troll then i guess i am sucessfull.

      “The more you troll, the more you put people off PC gaming as they think
      all PC gamers are sad cellar dwelling r3tarded freaks like you. You
      really are biggest scummiest troll on the internet. And a failed troll
      at that. LOL.”

      Oh look its dan, hi dan, why dont you call pc gamers scum basement dwellers and say that mp is filled with hackers on pc and pc sucks and ps4 is only 350$ because 50% is dualshock 4″ and lets not forget how shadowfall will be an amazing game.

      Then you talk about trolling.

      Anyway you call me “biggest scummiest troll” so i guess you are mad which makes me a sucessfull troll.

      Lets see how put off people are about pc.

      pc is more popular than consoles

      http://www.dsogaming.com/news/gdc-2014-survey-proves-that-pc-is-the-most-popular-platform/

      Pc is more popular than consoles 51% of devs work on pc games and only 14% on ps4.

      Most console gamers also play on pc

      http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2014/news/dfc-worldwide-gamers.jpg

      So it seems people also play on pc and consoles and not just downright hate pc lke you

      ea says pc is the fastet growing platform and made more money for them than ps3.

      Ken levine creator of bioshock says the future of gaming is on pc

      http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/10/29/ken-levine-if-you-want-to-know-the-future-of-gaming-buy-a-pc/

      cliffy b creator of gears of war leaves studio to work on pc exlusives

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/cliffyb-likes-pc-gaming-again

      steam has 75 million acounts buying games daily, thats more than xbox live and increases its user base by 10 million when next gen trashboxes came out.

      pc revenue is higher than consoles and BIGGER THAN EVER BEFORE PC GAMING HAS NEVER BEEN SO ALIVE

      http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/04/12/developers-explain-why-pc-gaming-has-never-been-stronger-24-billion-dollars-yearly-revenue-estimated/

      Pc has more and higher rated exlusives

      imgur.com/tsCq4Qg.png
      pc exlusives are higher rated and pc has more exlusives than all consoles combined.

      as for ps4?

      ps3 was damaging no profit until 2010.

      amd makes more money than sony per ps4 sold.

      http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2308282/amd-makes-more-profit-than-sony-on-the-ps4

      Reserarch and development for new graphics chips cost billions each year sony and ms CANT afford it only amd and nvidia can, THUS hardware put in next gen consoles are weaker than pc hardware

      Sony could be bunkrupt in 2 years

      http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/01/02/sony-has-78-chance-to-go-bankrupt-in-two-years-says-macroaxis/

      despite srtong ps4 sales sony credit is still junk

      http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/01/02/sony-has-78-chance-to-go-bankrupt-in-two-years-says-macroaxis/

      sony lays off people and closes divisions to save money

      http://articles.latimes.com/2014/feb/06/business/la-fi-sony-pc-20140207

      Sony sells their buildings

      http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/28/us-sony-property-sale-idUSBRE91R09L20130228

      also their square enix rights

      http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/03/25/sony-layoffs-hit-evolution-guerilla-and-sce-london

      sony fires alot of people

      So yeah who is in a better state again? PC ofcourse.

      Cry some more

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt. Only dumb, demented, delusional microsoft fanboys disagree.

      Why are microsoft fanboys so dumb and delusional and hate it when knowledgeable people state tech facts and reality? You sound upset that reality doesn’t match your delusions and dreams.

    • Dakky

      yeah keep calling people dumb and delusional since thats all you can do and you are flat out wrong will keep upvoting your comments.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Exclusively 1080p 60 FPS games on PS4: MGS V, CoD Ghosts, FFXIV, Tomb Raider, MLB The Show 14, Resogun, Trials Fusion

      Exclusively 1080p 60 FPS games on Xbox: Forza 5 (LOL)

    • Dakky

      exlusively? pc has those too cry some more sony f@G

    • incendy

      Even with tons of memory you still want to tile. Frees up bandwidth as well as the amount of data to iterate on each draw when applying effects. It is a win/win all around.

    • Psionicinversion

      i thought the PS4 had tons and tons of bandwidth so why would they need to free it up when its supposed to have plenty?

    • incendy

      Never enough bandwidth. With that many cores on both ends, it would be near impossible to have enough. Plus you don’t want your effects “lighting, AA etc” to be iterating full texture data, only the bits pertaining to that draw or if possible the next few.

    • Psionicinversion

      i think sony should of increased the bandwidth of the GDDR5 cus doesnt seem like theyve got enough

    • Michael Norris

      It’s enough for 1080p,the issue with these consoles are the Cpu’s.Xbone has so many bottlenecks i doubt Tile will do much.You will always get 900p or lower resolution thanks to Esram and RoP’s.

    • Psionicinversion

      the GPU is the limitation in both systems to and can see the GPU in PS4 runing out of steam quite quickly, wait for the new maxwell and pirate islands GPU’s and youll see what i mean, the power difference between the 700 series nvidia and the R9 2xx GPU’s is going to be significantly higher with the maxwell and 3xx cards. going to make these consoles look stupid even with entry level cards

    • Dakky

      “special sauce”

      Lol , i laughed when darthdiggler said that about ps4 “nah ps4 isnt just a amd apu it has sony special sauce in it” apparently sony fanboys are not that much smarter either.

    • Dakky

      i dont think he even understands what he is quoting.

  • GamingBolt

    Behave yourself in the comments and beware of the ban hammer. Enjoy the article by engaging in fruitful discussion.

    • Dakky

      how about you do that and ban people that are actually reported for trolling, that will be nice, but you never do.

    • Stephen Perry

      They won’t because it means less clicks for ad revenues.

    • Psionicinversion

      reckon its time to get out the gifs? lol

    • Dakky

      thats my thought too.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Does that mean you’re going to be civil here?

    • Dakky

      does that mean you gonna stop trolling? I report your posts but that gets me nothing.

      Anyway, feel free to turn around and go check some other article that either needs a sony defence force member to proctet ps4, or invade a xbox article to bash xbox players and call them xbots or idiots as you usually do.

      Or Better yet call me a xbot right now because sorry to break this for you but gamingbolt posted this for hits, the granite sdk is available for pc, mac, linux ps4 AND xbone which means that this is not ps4 news. Just another new technology that will be used by pc and next gen cosnoles.

    • TimBuckleyCADComics

      How are you able to type? Shouldn’t you be off circle jerking with your Xbros over Kinect/Skype? Btw, PC smashes everything, you little kid! $499 for an overpriced LOW TIER “mini PC”? GTFO.

      Also,sStop copying and pasting everything you type. I swear, you Xbots have a script on hand, everytime you need some defense force action.

    • Dakky

      i am a pc gamer you dumbass i just love pwng you are flat out wrong and xtreme derp

    • Xtreme Derp

      Considering how you’re constantly WRONG and ignorant, you aren’t “pwning” anyone but yourself. 14000 posts of pure garbage and telling people you want to kill them or kill themselves.

    • Psionicinversion

      where PC gamers do you know what the funny thing is the console owners dont get… PS4 may cost £350 but, watchdogs £30 PC, about £50 X1+PS4 £50 for a dualshock 4 £5 to make, thats where there making there money and none of them see it, they all like omg £350 system PC beat that wed prolly spend less on a decent rig and have much higher visuals over the course of a generations life… you dont notice money going when its in bits!

    • RoadShow

      I will agree that a budget PC stomps xbox one but not PS4 and PC master race is for fools.

      PC is great but PC/PS4 combo is the way to go.

      PC – PC exclusives, Xbox supposed exclusives, free online play, best first person shooter controls, emulators, cheap steam games, home media server & everything else a PC does.

      PS4 – No paywalls to basic features like browser/streaming/apps/cross game chat/free to play games ect., Exclusives, Free exclusive content in multi plats, amazing subscription service, most
      powerful console, well priced hardware/accessories/subscription service. Great
      gamer feature like friend spectate/take over mode, fastest booting/loading/installing/downloading console.

      WiiU – Family or die hard Nintendo fans.

      Xbox one – Unnecessary, overpriced, underperforming, many exclusives on PC (with
      free online play the PC way), Microsoft has proven they will rake in the money and not deliver (almost no exclusives the last 4 years in a row). Paywall all
      basic features (can only play single player and watch disk based movies without paying for XBL. NO browser NO streaming NO premium apps NO skype NO video capture/upload NO one guide NO free to play online games without XBL).

    • Clate

      Hit the nail on the head. The Wii U deserves a bit more love though

    • RoadShow

      Yeah I love Nintendo still. I don’t like a couple things about the Wii or the WiiU but still plan on getting a WiiU once the price drops and or storage size increases. They just do their own thing which is okay, just not my priority.

    • dak

      so now pc gaming doesnt “suck” anymore? Fckng idiot i told you so many times to try pc games and you were insulting me, now you enjoy them, propably cuz they end up on ps4, my god the hypocricy.

    • RoadShow

      I told you a hundread freaking times I game on PC too. You are just an ignorant PC MASTER RACE FOOL that couldn’t accept that I get MORE out of my PS3/PS4 these days than my PC.

      If someone doesn’t want to go PS4 then PC is the next best platform (IN MY OPINION).

      PC just doesn’t give what it used to. But it’s far better than going to Xbox.

    • dak

      no you said “PC SUCKS NOWDAYS”

      Also “pc master race” is a meme its not real, you use it as an insutl.

      Admit it that you say “pc gaming sucks nowdays” and now you enjoying it,

      You were very vocal about this and very definitive, so sorry no i wasted too much time with your crap.

      Just say that pc gaming is fine so we can have a simple statement and not bother with any more bullcrap

    • RoadShow

      Whatever kid.

      It was in response to a stupid PC MASTER RACE TROLL COMMENT.

      And yeah compared to back in the PS2 and before days PC has nothing going for it that it did.

      PC pros (as listed above) – PC exclusives, Xbox supposed exclusives, free online play, best first person shooter controls, emulators, cheap steam games, home media server & everything else a PC does.

      PC cons – More expensive hardware than consoles (and more power needed to produce same quality), bad UI for big screen TV (this is outside of gaming, big picture mode is nice), bad controls for living room (keyboard/mouse not a great fit in living room), some huge multiplatform games not on PC like Red Dead Redemption & Destiny and PC doesn’t have the big exclusives like consoles do.

      Yes it does get many of xbox’s exclusives and it has a couple good one’s it’s self like Civilization V and Sim City but nothing like the AAA exclusives consoles get. It does have MMO’s.

      PC is decent. You just came in like a PC troll and I absolutely hate being talked down by idiot PC trash like you.

      I personally get more from my console

      My console is better suited for my big screen TV and living room

      PC doesn’t have the huge simulators like Star Wars Tie Fighter and Star Trek Klingon Academy. It has completely different, no name simulators that don’t do half what the old school ones did in the 90’s.

      BUT PC is still a million times better than Xbox.

      IMHO

      PS4>PC>WiiU>Xbox One

      Xbox costs the most and gives the least. Any other platform has true exclusives, no paywalls, and either valuable subscription or free online play.

    • dak

      pc doesnt have space sim games? are you fckin r3tarded? What am i asking ofcoruse you are

    • Michael Norris

      This tech is the same as Tiled resource,just it’s on a different OS.This is actually better then the DX12 version.What morons like you don’t understand is that Open GL does everything DX does and it’s more efficient.Don’t cry though….

    • ShowanW

      Did you even read the article?… This is only equivalent to DX 11.1. Not DX12. Read next time.

    • cozomel

      What do you think that Dx12 does Tiled resources differently than DX11? You’re making assumptions, otherwise show a link with proof. This program does hardware virtual texture streaming (read, Partially Resident Textures/Tiled Resources). And from the sound of it, does it better than DX would. Learn to better comprehend

    • ShowanW

      Aljosha Demeulemeester, Graphine CEO confirmed to GamingBolt that Partial Resident Textures for the PlayStation 4 is aimed at doing the same thing as the Tiled Resources feature of DX 11.1+ using Granite SDK.
      Read more at http://gamingbolt.com/ps4-games-could-see-increased-visual-fidelity-lesser-load-times-granites-texture-streaming-detailed#y6OTMYPuGI4b9f3s.99

      AIMED AT DOING THE SAME THING AS THE TILED RESOURCES FEATURE of DX 11.1.

      DX12 will improve Tiled Resources along the way. But that is not the main objective of DX12.

      Once again, read the article

    • dak

      sony fanboys never read the article, gamingbolt posted this as ps4 news despite the fact xbo and pc will have this technology too so those idiots will bite, gaminbolt is a sony site

    • cozomel

      Once again, no comprehension skills! He’s saying that because TR was introduced in DX11 and DX12 isnt due out til 2015, and he’s trying to sell his product now. There is nothing in there that states that TR is any better on DX12 than on DX11. And why would anybody buy this software to do this if DX12 can do it better and for free. I swear you fanboy, see what you wanna see. You still havent made your point. Cuz you are still wrong. Now try again.

    • XboxGamer33

      I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure you can only use textures with this method. While tiled resources are just that, resources. So you can use it for textures or say extra shaders and things like that. Bare in mind I’m no expert

    • cozomel

      Yeah, you’re no expert alright, cuz tiled resources is storing only the visible parts of the “TEXTURE” in memory and streaming in the rest.

    • Dakky

      this has nothing to do with opengl or dx,, it is a side sdk available for pc, mac, linux, ps4, xbone, it simply does everything now stop trolling and being ingornat of what you are talking about.

    • cozomel

      ok dakan45

    • dak

      hi c3nt

    • You are flat out wrong

      Thought not.

    • dak

      am back kid

    • V8Supercar1

      How do you report someone for trolling?

    • Dakky

      you press the flag at the right corner i have been doing it for 3 years in this godamn site but the admin was ignoring me.

    • V8Supercar1

      Im new to this site. Im gonna have to find out what the rules are real quick.

    • dak

      you wasting your time, i was on this site for 3 years, i reported everything, the idiotic moderators did NOTHING, people started impersonating me, i had to contanct disquss to ban their acounts, thats how incompetent they are and now they ban me.

      Leave this site its run by arab sony dck riding pigs

    • Xtreme Derp

      You’re the last person to talk, you constantly tell people you want to kill them or to kill themselves. You’re one of the most horrific, constantly wrong and dumb, psychotic posters on disqus.

    • Tim

      Wow, PS4 games like Infamous and Metal Gear are already absolutely stunning, if this tech improves on this, we are in for something special.

    • Clate

      Infamous was a bit of a disappointment graphically for me. But it still looks amazing and has the best overall graphics of any game on any console so far.

    • Tim
    • kotakufan
    • Dakky

      why dont you ban you are flat out wrong then? I reported all his post you never took action, hypocrite much? Oh you gonna delete this as well, let me tell you something for 3 years i have been reporting comments of the trolls, 3 years you were ingoring me and made sick of the trolling on this site, i had to result into their behavior to get past all the hate, and now you started banning people.

      Ban you are flat out wrong he is a known troll.

    • cozomel

      Why isnt dakky banned too? he’s dakan45, cant you tell?

    • dak

      why arent you ban? You insuled me so many times i reported you to gamingbolt and they did nothing

    • cozomel

      Because they love me and everybody hates you. AHAHAHAHA! Im just kidding, damn kid, you sound like you’re about to cry. You ok?

    • dak45

      yeah sony c3nts lose sony c3nts no suprise. Look how banned i am… nope still here busting your balls kiddo, i am gonna make you kill yourself.

    • dkn45

      can you not see that ps4lol is extreme derp?

      He posts the same messages and calls people always wrong imbecile and mentally ill fanboys.

      Ban him you useless indian c3nt, i have been reporting people for 3 years and you never ban them, you are the worst mod ever.

  • You are flat out wrong

    Will be interesting to see how the ICE team and the new engines improve the hardware of the PS4 going forward. 2013 PS3 was a much better beast compared to the 2007 PS3.

  • Xtreme Derp

    This article is another confirmation that PS4 can do hardware level tiled texture/streaming tasks.

    Both console GPUs are based on AMD GCN (graphics core next) technology, which includes hardware level support for PRT (partially resident textures). That hardware can be exposed to developers through different APIs like OpenGL or DirectX, or utilized by middleware like Granite. The DirectX name is “Tiled Resources” while the OpenGL name is the “AMD_sparse_texture” function.

    Sony’s PS4 APIs may have a custom name and implementation to access PRT hardware functions, or they could be using the OpenGL code.

    Both consoles are able to use hardware level texture tiling to save on memory size and bandwidth. PS4 is not limited to “software only”.

    The Granite SDK supports PC, mac, and mobile phones and basically does the heavy lifting for devs including hardware support if available (according to them).

    “First off, we have added hardware tiling support. On DirectX this is called “Tiled Resources”, but there is also an OpenGL equivalent under the name of “Partially Resident Textures”. Hardware support means that using our technology you will not only have to run less instructions in the shader, but there will also be a reduction in cache sizes (video memory), because no extra pixel borders are needed for cross-tile hardware texture filtering.”

    http://graphinesoftware.com/our-technology/how-it-works
    http://graphinesoftware.com/Announcing-Granite-2.0
    http://graphinesoftware.com/node/70

    • Dakky

      copy and pasting like a boss

    • Xtreme Derp

      The point is PS4 can do this as well as Xbox, Tiled Resources is not some super secret xbox sauce. You’re an angry xbox fanboy hiding behind a high end PC.

    • Dakky

      No it can do it better but you keep being a delusional sony f@g thinking i am a xbot when i NEVER owned a xbot in my entire life.

      Typical sony pony logic.

    • Psionicinversion

      funny thing is derp when i was talking about this graphine software a while back you were saying its rubbish its not going save anything its total trash, now ps4 will use it at some point its all good and amazing… wounded

    • Dakky

      ofcourse unless something is on ps4, it doesnt worth mentining.

      Example x360 had triggers they sucked, ps4 got them they became awesome.

      Psn was free they were rubbing it to xbot faces, now that psn isnt free they damage control.

      Pc indie games sucked, then they came on ps4, and everyone is playing them, i am actually hearing that sony fanboys are really enjoying pc games like warface, outlast, dont starve and such and use them as defence when i say ps4 doesnt have alot of good games due to knack and shadowfail flops.

      Now that granite is on ps4, they praise it.

      As soon as sony also anounces cloud computing they gonna praise it as well. Had sony use nvidia insead of amd they would praise it as well. Had dx12 landed on ps4 they would claim its this huge perfomance improvment.

    • Psionicinversion

      morpheous will be amazing on there 720p games but becuase the headset is capable of 1080p theyll just say its 1080p till theyve sold 1 million games then say ah well you know i guess we forget to turn the settings up, wont happen again… till the next time

    • Dakky

      i am more curious in the perfomance issues, as carmack said you cant have the same quality graphics with VR nor the same framerate you can fix that on pc with upgrades not on consoles though.

    • Psionicinversion

      well trolling aside think there going to use the 960×1080 temporal reprojection like they did with killzone, problem is it still has to run 2 screens though and cant see it running at 120fps cus ya do need 60fps on each eye to maintain immersiveness, on PC its easy… 1 really high powered gfx card (pending on game) or 2x gfx cards, 1 for each eye :d

    • d0x360

      Yes because in vr you have to render everything twice so you will lose performance which means resolution will be lowered, geometry maybe scaled back along with lighting and effects because the frame rate has to be rock solid or it breaks the vr experience itself and worse it could make you sick.

      Interesting to see how Sony works this out. I’d wager games that support vr will run in a lower detail mode when its being used to compensate.

    • d0x360

      Outlast is fantastic

    • Dakky

      good graphics but it didnt scare me it was too repettive and lacking ideas, i liked cry of fear more.

    • d0x360

      I think its biggest problem with scared was once you figured out the limits of the AI, what they do where they go etc you know you can always outsmart them regardless of scenario which certainly takes away any fear the game previously generated. I really enjoy the overall atmosphere more than scares. The only game to ever give me even the slightest hint of fear was silent hill 2 when it first launched.

    • Dakky

      it was the same think, no diffirent enemy types or tactics after a while it felt artificial and tedious.

    • Psionicinversion

      scared the cr@p out of me outlast did not used to playing stuff like that put chills down my spine… was definately combination of sound, effects, night vision camera etc that just all added to it considering it s dx9 texture game, i thought it was better than some of the triple A’s that have come out tbh.

    • Dakky

      run quite well for a dx9 game, judging by its graphics it would need atleast dx10 cards to prove good perfomance.

    • Psionicinversion

      i think its dx9 it reminded me of the same texture lighting in the first black ops, whatever dx game that was outlast was runnign on that

    • Dakky

      witcher 2 and shadow warrior have horrible perfomance due to being dx9, they cant utilize dx10, perfomance increases and optimizations by utilizing multiple cpu cores and new rendering technologies. I was suprised outlast didnt run like crap as well that it didnt explode with bugs since it was made by ex ubisoft devs.

    • Psionicinversion

      maybe when they aint got a publisher breathing down there throats they can make something good cus i can imagine if you dont get “done” with deadlines your not going to be employed for very long

    • Dakky

      they said that the perfomance is increased now with dx111 i havent tried the game though.

    • Psionicinversion

      outlast has?

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt. Only dumb, demented, delusional microsoft fanboys disagree.

      Why are microsoft fanboys so dumb and delusional and hate it when knowledgeable people state tech facts and reality? You sound upset that reality doesn’t match your delusions and dreams.

    • Dakky

      Nope pc will be better

    • Dakky

      No cry some more sony fanboy.

    • Johnny

      Derp don’t belong in this discussion.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Considering you still believe in Xbox secret sauce, you have no place in ANY tech discussion.

    • Johnny

      You got no leg to stand on when it comes to this discussion and a hypocrite.

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt. Only dumb, demented, delusional microsoft fanboys disagree.

      Why are microsoft fanboys so dumb and delusional and hate it when knowledgeable people state tech facts and reality? You sound upset that reality doesn’t match your delusions and dreams.

      Apologizing for your overpriced, underpowered piece of plastic by pointing to a high end PC. LOL

      You hate the fact that PS4 is more powerful, has more dev support, and is outselling by 3 million. You have a meltdown over anyone smarter and more knowledegable than you. I have a high end PC and a PS4, they both have their pros and cons and are in different markets. You’re an asshurt Microsoft fanboy clinging to PCs that won’t admit reality.

    • Dakky

      lol dathdiggler a sony fanboy believes the secret sauce for sony.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Wrong. Stop hitting the vodka.

    • Dakky

      hhaa gamingbolt ban him, me too for some reason propably because they are dumb and not reallizing i was reporting people for 3 godamn years and they took no action, so its their fault their site turned into this mess. Good thing i got an alternative acount. Report you are flat out wrong so that c3nt gets banned too.

  • XboxGamer33

    All I read in this was that the Xbox One has tiled resources and also supports this. So it sounds very interesting for both platforms

  • Illusive Man

    PS4s PRT is software based solution to texture streaming. It does not have a hardware solution. XB1 can do PRT and hardware tiling using the ESRAM. They are not roughly equivalent because they aren’t the same thing.

    A Dev can load up the DDR3 with 5GB of textures while simultaneously using the ESRAM for tiling up to 6 GB of textures.

    • Kayant

      Seriously how delusional can people get. It says right there in the article it’s hardware based from the devs mouth, Xtreme Derp posted links showing it’s a *HARDWARE* feature for GCN cards.

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah it is a part of the GCN architecture, may depend more on the memory systems though to like it could work better on one than the other

    • Dakky

      Funny how pcs will benefit more from dx12 and granite cgn architectures than either console

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah the only problem is will be if the developers use granite for PC’s or not, they could just use granite for the x1 and ps4 versions and not bother with PC’s so pends

    • Dakky

      It says in the end of the article that granite sdk supports PC, Mac, Linux, PS4 and Xbox One.

      Anyway consoles were always better at texture streaming and compression, pcs had extra hard drive space and more ram to fix that, and most importantly FAR FASTER LOADSCREENS, seriously compare a game on pc and a console the console loadscreens take forever.

      The technique they using with not rendering non visible textures is similar to umbra, this wont be a game change just another techonology to improve thigns and its NOT exlusive to ps4, but hey we gotta sell the article as if ps4 gets something super mega awesome when it doesnt.

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah but the developer still has to convert his PC version for us using the SDK, if they dont want do that then its not going to work for us

    • Dakky

      which developer? They downright say this SDK can be used on pc and mac and linux.

      I dont see why not use it on pc since it will be used on ps4 and xbo, this is not like mantle or directx its a side thing like umbra and physics.

    • Psionicinversion

      what they do is the SDK converts the games texture files to a format to use with tiled streaming so the developer has to convert the game files for use. If they dont then it obviously cant be used

    • Dakky

      I dont see why they will select not to do it, maybe becasue consoles are better at streamign and thye need it more due to low ram but other than that i dont see the point not to do it on pc.

    • Psionicinversion

      well Rage tried that, was completely horrible on PC think they managed to patch it reasonably well but still caused issues…. BUT they didnt have this so it could do, might see games like witcher 3 using it, would be good to know if there was any multiplats in development with this in mind

    • Dakky

      rag has a smilar texture compressing which infact does the textures look worse.

    • Psionicinversion

      plus all the compression stuff has gotten better hardware more powerful and capable so dont suppose theres no reason for it… Star Citizen its kinda doing it in a different way think there going to use the PC’s massive ram (if you got enough in) to preload textures then cus its in ram its lightening fast to access and pull then if you got an SSD to feed the RAM, should be infinitely better than that.

    • Illusive Man

      Tell us how it works on PS4. I have an entire conference that speaks on hardware tiling.

    • Dakky

      lol this isnt even about ps4, the granite sdk is available for pc, mac, linus xbox one and ps4 but you know sony fanboys are insecure and need to downplay dx12, esram and cloud computing basicly anything that has to do with xbox because ms are liars and sony is awesome.

    • Johnny

      Exactly good call out!

    • Dakky

      thanks

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt. Only dumb, demented, delusional microsoft fanboys disagree.

      Why are microsoft fanboys so dumb and delusional and hate it when knowledgeable people state tech facts and reality? You sound upset that reality doesn’t match your delusions and dreams.

      Apologizing for your overpriced, underpowered piece of plastic by pointing to a high end PC. LOL

      You hate the fact that PS4 is more powerful, has more dev support, and is outselling by 3 million. You have a meltdown over anyone smarter and more knowledegable than you. I have a high end PC and a PS4, they both have their pros and cons and are in different markets. You’re an asshurt Microsoft fanboy clinging to PCs that won’t admit reality.

    • Dakky

      cry more sony f@G i like how you are flat otu wrong upvotes all your comments

    • Kayant

      It’s already explained in the article that Tiled Resources and Partially Resident Textures do the same thing.

      One it’s a AMD GCN feature meaning it’s hardware based and just has to be exposed to the API so it can be used which it is as shown above and here –> http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1019252/PlayStation-Shading-Language-for

      What exactly are you failing to understand or let me rephrase that.

      Both consoles have the same feature and is hardware based.

    • GHz

      PS4 supports PRT via hardware. All AMD 7000 series GC with GCN implementation support the function. So that means PRT via hardware is also a XB1 feature.

      It just so happens XB1 also can do TR via hardware as well. So more options for XB1. The difference between TR and PRT is that TR dont only have support for textures but for other things hence the “resource” in the name. PRT= textures only. TR=textures, advance shadowing etc.

    • Johnny

      The ponys don’t get TR, they can’t get it through there heads it is done through hardware ie esram. There for little instructions needed to be done by cpu and is why it’s amazing. But this sdk none the less will help give the ps4 a boost in visuals if it is utilized. But another thing about the TR for the xone this is baked in verses this is not for the PS4.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Good lord you’re dumb and WRONG. ESRAM ISN’T THE BASIS OF PARTIALLY RESIDENT TEXTURES, IT’S A FUNCTION OF AMD GCN GPUS.

      You still think Xbox is secretly as or more powerful than PS4 with nonsense conspiracy theories, and that Xbox is somehow going to overtake PS4 in sales. You must eat crow for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It’s unprecedented in the history of console gaming.

    • Johnny
    • Cinnamon267

      Unless I am missing something I don’t know why you keep linking this?

    • Dakky

      hahah does the ban hurt fanboy?

    • Cinnamon267

      Uh, the PS4 uses an AMD 7xxx series GPU and all 7xxx series chips have hardware support for PRT. it isn’t software. Learn facts.

    • Xtreme Derp

      This is completely wrong and delusional misterxidiocy. GDDR5 can do tiling just fine, nanoseconds of latency isn’t an issue.

    • Dakky

      yeah call peopel wrong and delusional you troll

  • Dakky

    Gotta love em n4g posts, this guy talks about ps4 “Ecosystem” as if ps4 gamers live in a diffirnet planet… judging by some comments they just might.

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt. Only dumb, demented, delusional microsoft fanboys disagree.

      Why are microsoft fanboys so dumb and delusional and hate it when knowledgeable people state tech facts and reality? You sound upset that reality doesn’t match your delusions and dreams.

      Apologizing for your overpriced, underpowered piece of plastic by pointing to a high end PC. LOL

      You hate the fact that PS4 is more powerful, has more dev support, and is outselling by 3 million. You have a meltdown over anyone smarter and more knowledegable than you. I have a high end PC and a PS4, they both have their pros and cons and are in different markets. You’re an ass,hurt Microsoft fanboy clinging to PCs that won’t admit reality.

    • Dakky

      cry some more, you bought a piece of crap that even the 149$ 750 ti can beat and guess what idiot? I dont have a high end pc, its YOU who has a high end pc or more like PRETENDS he has a high end pc.

      Pc is better than both of them and sony is dying.

      Lol asshurt sony fanboy? I have never bought a xbox console in my life.

    • Dakky

      cry some more sony f@G

    • Guest

      They’re just the ultimate losers at real life.

    • chrisredfield31

      by ultimate losers meaning Xbox fanboys then yes.

    • Dakky

      says the number one sony fanboy

  • jacksjus

    Yeah what he just said. :/

  • d0x360

    This method of texturing can make things look absolutely fantastic but it comes with a hefty price and that price is world interaction. Lots of object in the world become part of this megatexture and cannot be interacted with. Just as a small example an item like a pot or lamp. Unless large amounts of resources are used the only thing that can easily be attached to the object is sound data. So you will shoot or hit this lamp/pot and it could make a breaking noise but the object will not break or move in anyway.

    Its a huge tradeoff. Awesome visuals in a dead world. This can of course be overcome but doing so negates the benefit of using the technology so you end up with almost zero performance gain in the long run. At least that is the case on modern hardware which includes modern high end pc hardware.

    • Dakky

      “Lots of object in the world become part of this megatexture and cannot be interacted with.”

      “Just as a small example an item like a pot or lamp.”

      Am sorry whhaaaaat?

      Do you even understand what you talking about?

      Rage had that because everything was one megatexture the objects on the table that you couldnt interact werent seperate objects but part of the table.

      When they are seperate objects like you know EVERY GAME EVER they got both physics and their very own textures.

    • d0x360

      I know exactly what I’m talking about as I’ve used megatexturing and I’m not referencing rage either. If you want to use the technology for your world it requires trade offs. All forms of rendering have benefits and negatives. I didn’t say it was impossible I said it was near zero sum gain. Games using it will look SLIGHTLY better and run with equal performance to games that don’t. They will not look massively better and run better on current hardware.

    • Dakky

      Explain me why seperate objects such as boxes and phones and other decoration items will lose their physics capabilites with this texture streaming techonology, because i think you missed something here.

    • d0x360

      I suggest you read the technical documents Instead. I believe there are a couple on nvidia.com

      Perhaps we are talking about separate parts of the same equation here. I’m talking specifically mega texturing not the entire article.

    • Dakky

      ” I’m talking specifically mega texturing not the entire article.”

      You talk mega texturing in rage, nowhere does it say that granite will do something like that, infact it is reffering on not rendering the entire texture but only what the player can see in order to save perfomance, kinda like umbra does with objects. Rage did it as well. The megatexture technology has to do with loading a single texture into the level than multiple small ones. The article is talking about hiding whatever is outside the player’s FOV, to save perfomance now stop trying to sound smart when you got no idea what you talking about.

      “When using virtual texturing, you will only load the texture tiles into memory that are actually viewed by the virtual camera. The main benefit is that you can save on the amount of video memory that you need for you texture data, but there are a bunch of side benefits.”

      From the article.

    • d0x360

      I’m talking about mega textures because the article mentioned it. Get over yourself. There is no rule on comments. An article mentions something. Something I don’t like. I commented on that piece. I’m terribly sorry if that bothers you o mighty Sony fanboy killer.

    • Dakky

      “This method of texturing can make things look absolutely fantastic but
      it comes with a hefty price and that price is world interaction.”

      You talked about megatexturing not the granite techinique.

      Texturing has nothing to do with seperate objects, rage as a game NOT as techonlogy choose not to put seperate objects but make the objects part of the game world and use one main texture for all of them.

      However in wolfenstein the new order they changed it so the game does infact have objects in them with physics, such as breakable boxes.

      Granite sdk has nothing to do with physics on objects so i assumed you talked about that, it helps quoting what you commenting on.

      i asked you how that streaming techonology kills object physics and you told me to go to nvida, DAFUQ?

    • d0x360

      Nvidia has technical documents and write ups on mega texturing hence going to nvidia. Not difficult. Why are you stuck on granite? Did I mention granite at all? No. I was talking about RELEASED projects with mega texturing and why I disliked the technology. I don’t care what wolfenstein does. I have no experience with any updates to the use of said technology past 2012. I deeply apologize for making a comment that wasn’t 100% relevant to you.Jesus Christ dude.

    • Dakky

      “Did I mention granite at all?”

      The idea of making a comment on article is about talking about what the article is explaining. So it is only logical anyone would assume that its about that.

      Doesnt take a genious to figure that out, but i like how you kept dodging the question which you keep on doing.

    • Xtreme Derp

      You’re incredibly stupid and WRONG.

    • Guest

      You are the one that’s flat out wrong, with every pathetic no-life comment that you make.

    • Dakky

      well said

    • Dakky

      and you are banned

    • luvthesnapper

      why not just go in and add objects overtop of the megatextures

  • ImonadrugcalledCharlieSheen

    Oops, looks like the DX12 update is getting less and less significant by the minute.

    • Johnny

      You would be wrong with that analysis.

    • Xtreme Derp

      You don’t have the knowledge or intelligence to decide how “significant” it is.

    • Johnny

      Leave me alone derp your talking out both sides of your mouth and look extremely bias and delusional right now given how you called this tec garbage and not possible on the other console.

    • Xtreme Derp

      I never said that, you’re delusional and WRONG as usual. CONSTANTLY WRONG AND DUMB AS A BRICK

    • Johnny

      All you got is spam and insults I hope that they start moderating this discussion thread.

    • chrisredfield31

      LOL it does say up there that they will be moderating this thread. They’re not going to start with Derp, they’re going to start with you b/c you’re trolling. Calling people ponies, hypocrites, and telling people they’re wrong w/o backing it up. You really think you’re right don’t you?

    • Dakky

      thank god he was banned

    • dkn45

      extreme derp is ps4lol, inform the admins so they ban him

    • Johnny

      I just shot derp aka ps4lol a strong warning. I asked why I was getting messages from other posters and to stop also that he wasn’t fooling anyone about who he is. Hopefully someone will look at this in the morning. He gets to carried away with it amnd his trolling turns into harassment. Which is not tolerated on this site.

    • Dakky

      says the banned idiot

    • dak

      and you do idiot?

    • Dakky

      OOPS the granite sdk is available on xbox one as well as pc and linux and mac, cry some more sony drone.

  • RoadShow

    Less load times? I threw in Assassins Creed Black Flag at lunch for the first time and was playing within a couple minutes. Blown away at how fast Sony has managed to get these games to play.

  • Dikan45

    It’s all good!!

  • Johnny

    Oh I get it now this is possible now that you ponys find out it can be utilized by the PS4, I got one word for you hypocrites.

    • V8Supercar1

      Its not hypocritical. In the past, even the PS3 got updates to its graphics software. What Sony is doing now is, they are not letting microsoft run away with the hype train.

    • Johnny

      Wrong some more. This sdk wasn’t created by sony this company is also in bed with Microsoft. This sdk was already demoed with DK11.2 and now with DX12 and all we heard for pony after pony how this was garbage and couldn’t work but now that it can be utilized by the PS4 the ponys call it amazing. So tell me again how it is not hypocritical?

    • bruce livingston

      You sound like an angry fanboy, lol

    • Johnny

      Not at all this is amazing tec and is great for gamers just calling a spade a spade.

    • bruce livingston

      Just being honest dude, you come off like you have a severe bias. Maybe you don’t, but that’s how you come off, just saying.

    • Johnny

      It is what it is man. I call it like I see it and calling people out isn’t the same as being a hater when you were hated for the same discussion.

    • Johnny

      Also I was heavily ridiculed for talking about this tec earlier as TR for the xone.

    • V8Supercar1

      I just said how. Because the PS3 had updates to its graphics software as well. And if anything, on the websites that I have been on, the sony fanboys are saying that dx12 isn’t gonna somehow magically make the xbox1 surpass the PS4 in graphics.

    • Johnny

      Its all good but you did start out with its not. Look this is great news for gamers amd good for the PS4 the more technology the better. I have no problem with the PS4 it’s an awesome system just with a few fantards.

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt. Only dumb, demented, delusional microsoft fanboys disagree.

      Why are microsoft fanboys so dumb and delusional and hate it when knowledgeable people state tech facts and reality? You sound upset that reality doesn’t match your delusions and dreams.

      Apologizing for your overpriced, underpowered piece of plastic by pointing to a high end PC. LOL

      You hate the fact that PS4 is more powerful, has more dev support, and is outselling by 3 million. You have a meltdown over anyone smarter and more knowledegable than you. I have a high end PC and a PS4, they both have their pros and cons and are in different markets. You’re an asshurt Microsoft fanboy clinging to PCs that won’t admit reality.

    • Johnny

      Spam some more.

    • Dakky

      cry some more sony fantard.

    • dak45

      must suck being banned eh?

    • Xtreme Derp

      Dumb as a brick and WRONG. Anyone with half a brain already knew PS4 had hardware level PRT support because the GPU is based on an AMD GCN architecture.

      It’s you deranged, dumb as rocks microsoft fanboys constantly WRONG thinking PS4 “only has software support” when the truth is YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT AS USUAL.

    • Johnny
    • chrisredfield31

      The problem is that you use the words “ponies” and “hypocrites” pointed towards an ENTIRE audience and YOU think you’re somehow in the clear for that? You think that’s okay to call everyone those names?

      Tech-wise, you don’t know what you’re talking about and that’s the bottom line. There is no arguing your way out of that one.

    • Dakky

      but you are a sony pony everyone knows that, you are a huge fanboy i have seen you fanboying all over

    • Johnny

      I just hurt his feelings is all because like you said he likes to fanboy everywhere. I can be guilty of the same thing but I don’t feel the need to bash the PS4, Nintendo pc or any other platforms. My take is they are all great in their own right don’t have to hate and down play the others to make yours seem more legit.

    • chrisredfield31

      You don’t bash the PS4. Right. That’s why you begin your comments with ponies with the very first train of thought. That’s why the Xbox has this magical ESRAM and PS4’s GDDR RAM (which is superior to ESRAM) somehow can’t do PRT which is the exact same as TR. RIIIIIGHT

    • Johnny

      If you say so. Hahaha hahaha I can talk about it if I feel like it. I am not a dev but I did stay at a holiday inn last night. Hahaha hahaha

    • dak45

      no you sony c3nts are compple scum and hypocrites and i would easilly kill any of you if it was asked of me.

      The resason i will never buy a ps4 is because i dont want to talk about games to pretentious arsewipes likee you. Sony is dying enjoy their colapse.

    • chrisredfield31

      Okay. I’m done with Gamingbolt. Apparently they can’t do anything to permanently ban you so I’m just not going to read any more of their articles.

      When you start to talk about killing people over a video game console. That’s too much. It’s not that serious. It’s really not. But either way, I’m done, I’m not coming here anymore. Gamingbolt’s lost a reader. I sincerely hope that they find a way to deal with you because you are a real cancer in the community. You call us scum and hypocrites but you’re the one threatening people’s lives over a damn gaming console.

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    DX 11 and OpenGL 4.4? Isn’t it uncommon for this kind of combination or any competitor tech to be mashed into one product?

  • Johnny

    My apologies wasn’t trying to spam it.

    • Gamez Rule

      Never been exclusive to MS ( apart from the name ) LMAO!

      Everyone knew it could be utilized by the PS4 ( even you as I pointed it out to you ages ago ) http://gamingbolt.com/dx12-may-allow-xbox-one-to-save-gpu-time-render-ray-tracing-superfog-and-custom-effects

      I’ve just shown you 100% factual evidence that Partially Resident
      Textures ALSO known as Tiled Resources is built into the PS4 hardware, and no matter what you want to believe the PS4 will still have the graphics advantage this entire generation☺

      So while you spam that MS video showing ( DX 11.2 Tiled Resources ) please remember this, it’s nothing to shout about as the PS4 is already able to do the same thing nowadays.

    • Johnny

      Tell me again where its going to be able to place 6 gig of textures into 64mb of memory on the PS4? Because I can’t find it? So you are more wrong then right. But keep trying because they are not the same, similar but still very different. PRT is accomplished through programing and is cpu heavy, TR is hardware based accomplished through ESRAM this how they are different.

    • Gamez Rule

      Hahhhha If you say so..Keep trying☺

      Tiled resources are not limited to Xbox One it is a feature in Open GL 4.4 and Direct X 11.2. PS4 uses OpenGL 4.4 and has a Direct X 11.2 capable card meaning it can do everything Xbone can do. It can use GDDR5 for it instead of ESRAM you’ll see soon enough.

    • Johnny

      Link please where it’s states PS4 memory will hold 6 gigs of textures in 64mb of ram. You really haven’t proven anything.

    • Gamez Rule

      Show me a link it can’t….. Tiled resources are not limited to Xbox One it is a feature in Open GL 4.4 and Direct X 11.2. PS4 uses OpenGL 4.4 and has a Direct X 11.2 capable card meaning it can do everything Xbone can do

    • Johnny

      What ever bro you can’t and you know it. Just admit you can’t! There isn’t another system that is using esram as tiled resources like the X one is and is why it can take advantage of TR because it’s accomplished physically through the esram ability to read and write simultaneously. PRT is accomplished though programing to simulate esram in this sdk, end of story says so in the article above. It’s called PRT and NOT TR for a reason get over it. It should help if they can take advantage of this sdk for the PS4 all the same. Personally just how much has yet to be seen. PRT is really cpu heavy and is why we haven’t seen it being taken advantage of in a lot of games as of yet on PC. If PC has a hard time accomplishing PRT kinda wonder how the PS4 will handle it even with this sdk.

    • Gamez Rule

      ((((( Aljosha Demeulemeester, Graphine CEO confirmed to GamingBolt that Partial Resident Textures for the PlayStation 4 is aimed at doing the SAME THING as the Tiled Resources feature of DX 11.1+ using Granite SDK )))))

      “Sony has announced that Partially Resident Textures (PRT) is available for PS4. This is aimed at doing the SAME THING as the Tiled Resources feature of DX 11.1+. We sometime refer to both using the term ‘HARDWARE VIRTUAL TEXTURING”

      So I will state once more too you, while you spam that MS video showing ( DX 11.2 Tiled Resources ) it’s nothing to shout about as the PS4 is already able to do the SAME THING nowadays.

      Tiled resources are not limited to Xbox One it is a feature in Open GL 4.4 and Direct X 11.2. PS4 uses OpenGL 4.4 and has a Direct X 11.2 capable card meaning it can do everything Xbone can do

      What I stated is ( backed up by Graphine CEO Aljosha ) and hence why the picture also explains (( Partially Resident Textures also called “Tiled Resources” – Hardware Virtual Texturing )) THEN shows Partially Resident Textures – Like this but in HARDWARE..

      So in your view not only am I wrong, Sony must be wrong, as well as the CEO of Graphine himself is wrong, BUT you are correct? LMAO! If you say so☺

    • Johnny

      Link please? What exactly is your argument again with me? Did I not say it can do it through software? Because the PS4 doesn’t have esram the last time I checked.

    • Gamez Rule

      WHERE did I post “ps4 will be able to hold 6 gigs of textures in 64 megabytes of RAM”?…. Oh that’s right I didn’t ( you only read what you want too ) and ask for links with something YOU made up LMAO!

      What I did state was the following .. Tiled resources are not limited to Xbox One it is a feature in Open GL 4.4 and Direct X 11.2. PS4 uses OpenGL 4.4 and has a Direct X 11.2 capable card meaning it can do everything Xbone can do. It can use GDDR5 for it instead of ESRAM ( Thank you )

      Hence why I stated to you.. ( DX 11.2 Tiled Resources ) it’s nothing to shout about as the PS4 is already able to do the SAME THING nowadays ( which has been backed up by the Graphine CEO himself )

      And where you posted… “PRT is accomplished through programing and is cpu heavy, TR is hardware
      based accomplished through ESRAM this how they are different”.. That is not 100% correct either as PRT is HARDWARE based and is not CPU heavy on PS4, Partially Resident Textures – Like this but in HARDWARE..( picture as proof )☺

      So where you keep stating “TR different because it hardware based not software based like PRT” makes you wrong ( as I’ve shown you many times now )

    • Johnny

      Yes yea and no and no again and still no links with credible info. Look I am not bashing the PS4. Its awesome and there is no denying it unless you are a fool. Here look here are some great links to some awesome info if you want to read it then you might understand what I am saying. I am not disparaging either method or one is better then the other, just they are different. You seem like your defense mode with the PS4. Happy reading
      http://dickyjim.wordpress.com/tag/virtual-texturing-in-software-and-hardware/
      https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=12&ved=0CCYQFjABOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jurajobert.com%2Fdata%2FVirtual_Texturing_in_Software_and_Hardware_course_notes.pdf&ei=WBtbU4L3N8KSyATg-oHYDw&usg=AFQjCNEgGzHp3IkyOx1ME4QG07829-cKOw
      http://diaryofagraphicsprogrammer.blogspot.com/2013/07/tiled-resources-partially-resident.html?m=1
      http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiled_rendering
      Sorry if I duplicated any of the links just have a time crunch and I am very busy.

    • Gamez Rule

      What do you mean NO and NO, EVERYTHING I posted is correct… And your links go back to Aug 2012? LMAO!

      You want links? ( LOOK at the information above on this very site for updated information )☺

      “Aljosha Demeulemeester, Graphine CEO = “Sony has announced that Partially Resident Textures (PRT) is available for PS4. This is aimed at doing the same thing as the Tiled Resources feature of DX 11.1+. We sometime refer to both using the term ‘hardware virtual texturing”

      Which backs up everything I stated, as well as the pictures I have shown too you. ( Pic added once more )

      Now when that same CEO was asked a question =

      ( But due to slightly different architectures of the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One [the former has unified and the latter has embedded memory architecture], is the process of texture streaming different across the two consoles? )

      The answer was =

      “That is actually not a problem, according to Aljosha. “Granite SDK indeed takes care of all the platform specific stuff and makes sure that you’re up and running quickly on both platforms. Granite exposes a set of configuration parameters like the size of the texture cache in main memory, the amount of threads used for decoding, the maximum allowed throughput of texture data per frame, etc”

      That backs up what I stated about being able to use GDDR5 RAM in PS4 ( and not just being limited to eSRAM )…Hence why I stated.. *Tiled resources are not limited to Xbox One it is a feature in OpenGL 4.4 and Direct X 11.2. PS4 uses OpenGL 4.4 and has a Direct X 11.2 capable card meaning it can do everything Xbone can do. It can use GDDR5 for it instead of ESRAM you’ll see soon enough*

    • Johnny

      Like I said you talking in circle with no links to back up anything you are saying and you dont know what your saying is my guess. Not to be harsh but I gave you a chance to back it up but you haven’t because you can’t find links to anyone journal anywhere. Post links or don’t bother me any more with more hyperdrole. Misterxmedia claimed there was stacked chips in the xbox and all he had was here say and a picture too and we all know how that turned out. BTW just because Sony says something doesn’t make it so and they have been known to stretch the truth to put it mildly.

    • Gamez Rule

      I gave you link / Pictures / Hardware specs / Even evidence from this article page itself ( look above people )☺

      I gave you proof on what I stated but you can’t accept it OR won’t accept it as you’ll rather believe MisterXmedia or MS PR bull-crap! LMAO

      What I stated is backed up by the CEO of Granite himself, as well as Sony, other developers / even right down to the PRT HARDWARE in PS4 itself and other hardware supported by all GCN which includes any GPU from the 7000 series.

      ANYONE reading this can see themselves all of the above posts from myself are correct. While all you gave out was links nearly two years old with no new information at all.

      In fact you have only shown that you think you know what you’re going on about while in the mean time I gave you proof ( backed up from this article alone ) that what I stated was correct and factual LMAO!

    • Gamez Rule

      You really believe that the 32MB of eSRAM in the Xbone console can store up to 6GB worth of textures alone at any one time?

      Tiled resources allows you to address more texture space than you can fit in RAM. What it doesn’t allow you to do is fit more textures in RAM.There’s no correlation between RAM size and virtual texture resolution as the limiting factor is bandwidth, IE RAM and storage.

      So in easy terms to get your head around what was stated is that there’s no way the technology works that turns 32 MBs eSRAM into 6 GBs of texture data alone at any one time hence why that video you posted was showing 32Mb of eSRAM could (( theoretically )) be capable of storing up to 6GB worth of tiled textures.

      32MBs eSRAM, can fit 32MBs of textures to be accessed by the GPU at any given moment. Then the Xbone can swap out those textures for new ones so that the texture data isn’t static, but capacity is unchanged.

      As tech people explained from B3D ” If you’ve cached a load of tiles in RAM, the bottleneck for tiled textures will be DDR3 > ESRAM, or rather DDR3 > GPU because you wouldn’t waste time and BW copying textures to eSRAM to read them again in the GPU. This meaning a 68 GB/s cap to texture bandwidth”

      But like everything time will soon tell if RT is made out as good as it’s being made out too be.

      Oh as for PRT, Texture sizes are up to 32TB ( see pic ) Much bigger then 6GB☺

    • Gamez Rule

      “PRT is accomplished through programing”…LMAO! Look at the picture…( PRT = also called Tiled Resources, HARDWARE Virtual Texturing☺

      I’ll state this again..

      Tiled resources are not limited to Xbox One it is a feature in Open GL 4.4 and Direct X 11.2. PS4 uses OpenGL 4.4 and has a Direct X 11.2 capable card meaning it can do everything Xbone can do. It can use GDDR5 for it instead of ESRAM you’ll see soon enough

    • Johnny

      Also to add to this discussion because I am not arguing about whether this will be awesome or not because I think it will if it is utilized on the PS4 but it is different from tiled resources.

  • Guest

    More $0N¥ lies, overhype and underdeliver and all the gullible low IQ N4Gtard NeoFAG paupers eat it like cake.

    • Dakky

      yup like always

  • GamingBolt

    xtremederp and dakan45 awarded ban hammer for trolling.

    • Dakky

      so now you decided to ban people? I was asking you to do it for 3 years. FINALLY

    • Dan

      Gamingbolt, you do realise ‘Dakky’ is a Dakan45 alias? You must ban him. Check his profile, constant trolling against consoles. I have to LOL because he is such a failed troll, as the funny thing is the next gen of consoles PS4/XB1 have been fastest selling consoles ever 🙂 It makes me LOL LOL LOL. HE makes all PC gamers look like sad retarded pathetic freaks – he puts people off PC gaming – do PC gamers a favour and ban him.

    • Psionicinversion

      the only reason why its selling so fast is becuase it took them 8 years to release a new one thats why, people wanted something new and didnt get it for years

    • dak

      that c3nt dan is a idiot sony fanboy that goes around and calls pc gamers basement dwelling midgets and says that pc gaming is filled with hackers, he is an idiot.

    • Psionicinversion

      hahah your ace you are, there no stopping dakan lol

    • dak

      no there isnt until this indian joker rasheed reallizes that i was here for 3 years reporting people and he did nothing and i had to get trolled everyday until he decided to show his face and ban xtreme derp and me just because he was talking to me.

      We talkign at a major lazy a$$ here, so no i wont stop until he give me back my freedom of speech or he bans you are flat out wrong and cozomel and datdude. I eve had to go to disquss to ban the impersonation acounts they made. Thhats how incompetent he is.

      Even if you get banned all you got to do is reset your ip and make new acount.

      If he doesnt fix this then ill infrom all the people he bans how to get past his ban and ofcourse since i am using a proxy, its not traceable.

      There is no stopping dakan.

    • dak

      kill yourself

    • dak

      kill yourself you constantly call pc gamers basement dwelling midgets and say that pc gaming is filled with hackers

      YOU ARE THE TROLL.

    • dak45

      still here danny boy

    • chrisredfield31

      yay *dances in circles*

    • dak

      nope still here, you cant stop me now go die dumbass

    • Johnny

      Nice, I love talking about gaming and gaming tec with out being insulted and trolled to death others should not have to deal with that either.

    • dak

      oh yeah? i had to deal with that for 3 YEARS, 3 years getting trolled, 3 years reporting and nothing happened. People started impersonating my acount, so i had to go do disquss to ban them TWICE, because this incompetent admin shows his face once every 100 years.

      Big advice leave this site, they will troll you do death and the admin wont do nothing, apart from once every 100 years to make an example.

    • chrisredfield31

      If you love talking about gaming and tech so much then don’t start comments with “ponies” and “hypocrites” and you’d be alright.

    • Guest

      You might want to think about You are flat out wrong while you’re at it. I’ll stop my counter trolls here once he’s gone.

    • dak

      listen here idiot, i have been on this site for 3 YEARS 3 GODAMN YEARS
      been trolled by trolls and i reported them all and you did NOTHING

      Do
      you know what that does to people? It makes people crazy i had to be
      agressive too. I had to contact disquss to ban the fake impersonator
      acounts, Not you the moderator because you never there but freaking
      disqus and they did it. TWICE because you are incompetent.

      I said multiple times that i want you start moderating people and ban them, go look at my posts.

      But ofcourse you deleted them all and ban me twice.

      Uban my acount or i ll keep posting and making acoutns with proxys.

      I will post here there is NOTHING you can do about it.

    • james

      Agreed this site is made for hits, i always use adblock when i check their news, i tried to contact the admin once, i couldnt find any “contact us” links. They got links for free walpapapers and scams about winning free games but no contanct information.

    • daka

      guess what you achieved nothing i am still here rashid, get ouf of your hole and come clean, you can stop me from posting with proxy, using random emails i found in google and keep on posting.

    • dak45

      still here dumbass

      listen here rajes you cant stop me so either
      unban me or i am gonna keep posting like this, makes things easier it
      doesnt fill my inbox with hate messages.

  • Randy

    I guess John Carmack was right about Megatextures, feel kinda guilty for calling idtech 5 (sh*ttech5)………………………..i`m sorry ???


 

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